2024-12-30 19:05:19 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> !startmeeting Go SIG meeting
2024-12-30 19:05:20 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-12-30 19:05:19 UTC
2024-12-30 19:05:20 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'Go SIG meeting'
2024-12-30 19:05:22 <@buckaroogeek:fedora.im> I did an update in, for example, cri-o1.29 using the go_vendor_archive to override the indirect dependency. Everything builds and all tests pass but not sure that is sufficient
2024-12-30 19:05:30 <@xbt573:fedora.im> !hi
2024-12-30 19:05:30 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Alexey Lunev (xbt573) - he / him / his
2024-12-30 19:05:44 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> !topic Roll Call
2024-12-30 19:05:47 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> Hi everyone! (like always, we can wait a few minutes for everyone)
2024-12-30 19:05:48 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> !hi
2024-12-30 19:05:49 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Mikel Olasagasti Uranga (mikelo2)
2024-12-30 19:06:23 <@buckaroogeek:fedora.im> !hi
2024-12-30 19:06:24 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Brad Smith (buckaroogeek)
2024-12-30 19:08:00 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> We have 4 issues tagged as meeting (https://pagure.io/GoSIG/go-sig/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting&close_status=)
2024-12-30 19:08:05 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> But golang-x-net is already on rawhide, so not sure what you’re trying
2024-12-30 19:08:11 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> just in case someone wants to go with them
2024-12-30 19:08:22 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> or... that one with the CVE :D
2024-12-30 19:08:30 <@buckaroogeek:fedora.im> This is for packages with vendored dependencies
2024-12-30 19:09:08 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> If nothing broke in rawhide I’m pretty sure it won’t for vendored ones
2024-12-30 19:09:45 <@buckaroogeek:fedora.im> Good point. Thanks
2024-12-30 19:10:25 <@xbt573:fedora.im> Apart from packaging, Go and it's related libraries are very backwards compatible, so it must work in most cases
2024-12-30 19:11:31 <@buckaroogeek:fedora.im> Thanks. Not a go programmer per se so this is very helpful
2024-12-30 19:13:58 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> for vendored builds alexsaezm’s script or mine doesnt make sense. 
2024-12-30 19:13:58 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> The easy way would be to create a scratch build to see if it builds all fine. If you want to interact with more packages then create a branch and build it in a copr project
2024-12-30 19:13:58 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> 
2024-12-30 19:15:57 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> As Alexey Lunev said. There is a "contract" that enforces somehow that the compatibility is not broken in the core project. Most of the libraries are therefore backwards compatible without doing any additional work, although in this very specific case, the -x packages are not backwards compatible always
2024-12-30 19:16:07 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> ```Code in sub-repositories of the main go tree, such as golang.org/x/net, may be developed under looser compatibility requirements. However, the sub-repositories will be tagged as appropriate to identify versions that are compatible with the Go 1 point releases. ```
2024-12-30 19:16:22 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> I would like to comment #57
2024-12-30 19:16:40 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> https://pagure.io/GoSIG/go-sig/issue/57
2024-12-30 19:16:55 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> One of the packages is listed to be removed due to ftbfs
2024-12-30 19:17:03 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> Ref https://go.dev/doc/go1compat
2024-12-30 19:17:20 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> So I’ll announce the intention to retire the packages as advised in the ticket and proceed in a week
2024-12-30 19:17:33 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> sure, let me "open" the conversation 
2024-12-30 19:17:50 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> !topic Retire golang-github-siddontang-goredis and golang-github-ledisdb 
2024-12-30 19:17:55 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> !link https://pagure.io/GoSIG/go-sig/issue/57
2024-12-30 19:18:53 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> I’ll post in the mail list about the retirement plan and proceed in a week
2024-12-30 19:19:52 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> Unless someone opposes 
2024-12-30 19:20:08 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> not me :)
2024-12-30 19:20:38 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> !action post about ticket #57 and proceed 7 days after
2024-12-30 19:21:26 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> Can we discuss https://pagure.io/GoSIG/go-sig/issue/59 as new topic?
2024-12-30 19:22:01 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> Absolutely 
2024-12-30 19:22:07 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> !topic go-sig membership cleanup 
2024-12-30 19:22:11 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> !link https://pagure.io/GoSIG/go-sig/issue/59
2024-12-30 19:22:56 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> I think the request makes sense
2024-12-30 19:23:10 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> it makes total sense to me
2024-12-30 19:23:38 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> And I want to think the 15 days + 15 days is safe amount of time
2024-12-30 19:25:00 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> or we can even increase the time, it's not about kicking people out :D just be sure they are still interested in contributing and reduce the possible attacks
2024-12-30 19:25:40 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> Ok
2024-12-30 19:25:51 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> but in any case, I think is a good idea
2024-12-30 19:26:38 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> and agree on your feedback, I don’t want to kick past contributors, just want to reduce attack surface 😅
2024-12-30 19:27:08 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> Good thing is it’s only 34 in case there is no API 😅
2024-12-30 19:27:56 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> alexsaezm: can you take this one? I’ll help you
2024-12-30 19:28:08 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> sure
2024-12-30 19:28:40 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> !action check which Go SIG members are active and follow up with all the non active ones
2024-12-30 19:28:59 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> btw... should we also post about this in devel? just in case some people of other SIGs do something?
2024-12-30 19:29:35 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> ok for me
2024-12-30 19:30:35 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> I'll send an email then
2024-12-30 19:31:23 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> Next one #54?
2024-12-30 19:32:01 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> !topic  Consider moving our meetings to the main Fedora meeting rooms 
2024-12-30 19:32:04 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> !link https://pagure.io/GoSIG/go-sig/issue/54
2024-12-30 19:32:15 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> that one is extremely easy hahah I just never did it
2024-12-30 19:32:20 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> But that one is 100% on you alexsaezm 
2024-12-30 19:32:25 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> yes
2024-12-30 19:32:37 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> it's what Neal said there
2024-12-30 19:32:43 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> I need to update the calendar and that's it
2024-12-30 19:33:21 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> Easy one then
2024-12-30 19:33:52 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> I can update it after this meeting so the next first meeting of the year can occur there if anyone is ok
2024-12-30 19:34:21 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> +1
2024-12-30 19:34:46 <@buckaroogeek:fedora.im> +1 - not that i am a member of the sig
2024-12-30 19:35:27 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> oh really? 
2024-12-30 19:35:39 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> you have more attendance than me!
2024-12-30 19:35:40 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> :D
2024-12-30 19:36:20 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> Open floor?
2024-12-30 19:36:30 <@buckaroogeek:fedora.im> Just trying to help where i can
2024-12-30 19:37:03 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> and you do a lot :D
2024-12-30 19:37:06 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> yeah, open floor time!
2024-12-30 19:37:10 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> !topic Open floor
2024-12-30 19:37:48 <@buckaroogeek:fedora.im> i already had my open floor topic at the beginning
2024-12-30 19:38:12 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> I fixed a few ftbfs of packages that otherwise were about to be retired. Another small Armageddon deactivated
2024-12-30 19:39:43 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> I’ll be working on the `rclone` update next week, so expect some review links being posted (and hopefully reviewed 🤞)
2024-12-30 19:39:48 <@zodbot:fedora.im> alexsaezm gave a cookie to mikelo2. They now have 15 cookies, 1 of which were obtained in the Fedora 41 release cycle
2024-12-30 19:40:15 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> And also with the prometheus update to 3.0 as otherwise will be retired
2024-12-30 19:40:37 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> And also with the `prometheus` update to 3.0 as otherwise will be retired
2024-12-30 19:41:08 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> busy Christmas :D
2024-12-30 19:41:18 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> From my side, nothing relevant, I did a few updates, some of them in delve, and I checked on some FTBFS with golang-x-exp and golang-x-tools (I still need to check if updating golang-x-tools fixes a problem in golang-x-exp)
2024-12-30 19:43:02 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> Is tinygo still failing and under your umbrella?
2024-12-30 19:43:47 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> tinygo still failing, didn't have time to check it but I really want to, not because I own it in any way but because I have a tiny thing at my desk I want to play with :D
2024-12-30 19:44:06 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> lol, ok
2024-12-30 19:44:20 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> golang-x-* (there is 3 failing) and tinygo will be my tasks first think next year
2024-12-30 19:44:41 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> unless someone else it's extremely interested in fixing tinygo, of course
2024-12-30 19:44:48 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> great
2024-12-30 19:45:11 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> I have too many small handheld devices that work with tinygo ... a
2024-12-30 19:45:13 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> I hopefully will check mikep’s request of reviews for `hugo`
2024-12-30 19:45:45 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> I hopefully tonight will check mikep’s request of reviews for hugo
2024-12-30 19:47:14 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> Tomorrow, while the bell is going off hahaha
2024-12-30 19:47:16 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> now that reminds me something about a new package and dependencies... there is a new kid in town: https://ghostty.org/
2024-12-30 19:47:27 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> looks like someone did a new package only in COPR
2024-12-30 19:48:06 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> I don't use it but everybody is talking about that terminal, and it feels weird to see that Fedora is already there but as a COPR.
2024-12-30 19:48:21 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> I'll try to reach the creator of the repo to see if he wants to create the package
2024-12-30 19:48:37 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> to create it as part of Fedora, not as a COPR, I mean
2024-12-30 19:48:48 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> It’s written in zig
2024-12-30 19:48:55 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> is it?
2024-12-30 19:49:00 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> I thought it was written in Go
2024-12-30 19:49:07 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> my god... never check pages from the phone...
2024-12-30 19:49:12 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> so not sure how gets packaged for Fedora
2024-12-30 19:49:15 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> scratch that :D
2024-12-30 19:49:25 <@buckaroogeek:fedora.im> zig - i have it installed
2024-12-30 19:49:31 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> lol
2024-12-30 19:50:05 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> I don't think we have a zig sig, but that's out of this meeting :D
2024-12-30 19:50:09 <@buckaroogeek:fedora.im> but i just keep using gnome terminal :)
2024-12-30 19:50:58 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> Yeah, Mitchell Hashimoto, one of the founders of Hashicorp (terraform, vault, packer, nomad, …) left the company and few months later he drop all his go modules, some widely used ones
2024-12-30 19:51:20 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> Now he is fully embraced with zig, he donated to zig foundation for example 
2024-12-30 19:51:34 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> I guess that was why I thought it was written in Go, the guy has/had a lot of Go packages
2024-12-30 19:51:36 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> (He is a billionaire after Hashicorp went public)
2024-12-30 19:51:59 <@buckaroogeek:fedora.im> yep
2024-12-30 19:52:06 <@buckaroogeek:fedora.im> i use vagrant all the time still
2024-12-30 19:52:44 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> https://gist.github.com/mitchellh/90029601268e59a29e64e55bab1c5bdc 
2024-12-30 19:52:54 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> in any case, that's my last nonsense of the year :D although I still have time
2024-12-30 19:53:10 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> i use `kcli` to test VMs
2024-12-30 19:53:55 <@buckaroogeek:fedora.im> not familiar with kcli. Will check it out
2024-12-30 19:54:36 <@buckaroogeek:fedora.im> open floor is going in a lot of different directions :)
2024-12-30 19:54:54 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> hahah yeah, we can cut it
2024-12-30 19:55:10 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> anything else? or we can call it?
2024-12-30 19:55:35 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> Yeah, i want to leave for dinner 🤣
2024-12-30 19:55:48 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> I need to build a furniture... and then dinner :D
2024-12-30 19:55:50 <@buckaroogeek:fedora.im> And lunch
2024-12-30 19:56:06 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> Thank you very much to all for all your epic help this 2024!!
2024-12-30 19:56:15 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> Your neighbors will love you! (9pm)
2024-12-30 19:56:29 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> 😇
2024-12-30 19:56:32 <@buckaroogeek:fedora.im> Thanks alexsaezm . And happy new year
2024-12-30 19:56:48 <@mikelolasagasti:matrix.org> Happy new year folks
2024-12-30 19:56:51 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> Happy new year :)
2024-12-30 19:57:02 <@xbt573:fedora.im> Happy New Year to everyone!
2024-12-30 19:57:14 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> 🍾
2024-12-30 19:57:20 <@alexsaezm:fedora.im> !endmeeting