2024-01-17 16:00:22 <@salimma:fedora.im> !startmeeting Hyperscale SIG
2024-01-17 16:00:23 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-01-17 16:00:22 UTC
2024-01-17 16:00:23 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'Hyperscale SIG'
2024-01-17 16:00:37 <@salimma:fedora.im> Good morning everyone!
2024-01-17 16:00:55 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> !hi
2024-01-17 16:01:07 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Neil Hanlon (neil) - he / him / his
2024-01-17 16:01:09 <@daandemeyer/:matrix.org> !hi
2024-01-17 16:01:12 <@salimma:fedora.im> !hi
2024-01-17 16:01:12 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Daan De Meyer (daandemeyer)
2024-01-17 16:01:13 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Michel Lind (salimma) - he / him / his
2024-01-17 16:01:29 <@davide:cavalca.name> !hi
2024-01-17 16:01:31 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Davide Cavalca (dcavalca) - he / him / his
2024-01-17 16:01:46 <@salimma:fedora.im> waiting a few minutes for people to stream in
2024-01-17 16:01:54 <@jordanrome:matrix.org> !hi
2024-01-17 16:01:56 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> hope everyone's having a good week so far
2024-01-17 16:01:56 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Jordan Rome (jordalgo) - he / him / his
2024-01-17 16:02:20 <@salimma:fedora.im> But to begin with ... !link https://sigs.centos.org/hyperscale/communication/meetings/#template-for-zodbot
2024-01-17 16:02:23 <@daandemeyer/:matrix.org> The US storm flew over the ocean, getting lots of snow here as well now
2024-01-17 16:02:36 <@salimma:fedora.im> we need to update this template to use the new-fangled Matrix commands :)
2024-01-17 16:02:50 <@salimma:fedora.im> oh and the meeting location on that page is also wrong
2024-01-17 16:03:10 <@salimma:fedora.im> Daan De Meyer: how much are you expecting? we're supposed to get more snow too this evening :P
2024-01-17 16:03:32 <@johnvi:fedora.im> Hi
2024-01-17 16:03:33 <@daandemeyer/:matrix.org> It's 10cm or so now? No clue how much we'll get
2024-01-17 16:03:56 <@salimma:fedora.im> that's a decent snowfall :)
2024-01-17 16:04:24 <@davide:cavalca.name> Definitely remember some decent snowfalls for past fosdems too
2024-01-17 16:04:49 <@rcolebaugh:matrix.org> !hi
2024-01-17 16:04:51 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Raymond Colebaugh (rcolebaugh) - he / him / his
2024-01-17 16:04:52 <@salimma:fedora.im> at least with the winter gear I've belatedly ordered I should be more than ready for FOSDEM :)
2024-01-17 16:05:13 <@salimma:fedora.im> hello!
2024-01-17 16:05:40 <@jordanrome:matrix.org> A thick sheet of ice is covering everything in my neighborhood
2024-01-17 16:06:46 <@salimma:fedora.im> johnv: apologies if I'm mistaken - is this your first time? would you like to introduce yourself?
2024-01-17 16:07:01 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> bout time for me to go fetch some more firewood
2024-01-17 16:07:17 <@johnvi:fedora.im> Thanks Michael. I'm John from Renesas
2024-01-17 16:07:57 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> love a wood stove
2024-01-17 16:08:02 <@johnvi:fedora.im> I've a question about one of the bug ticket not sure if this is a forum I can ask status about a bug ticket
2024-01-17 16:08:24 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> stove top at a balmy 600F right now
2024-01-17 16:08:28 <@salimma:fedora.im> if it's a Hyperscale bug, definitely. if it's a Stream bug we can probably give advice too though 
2024-01-17 16:09:23 <@salimma:fedora.im> want to post the link here johnv ? if it's one of ours we'll get to it when we get round to tickets in a bit
2024-01-17 16:09:40 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> our chimney needs to be relined before we can use the fireplace :(
2024-01-17 16:09:55 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> is it stone or something?
2024-01-17 16:09:55 <@johnvi:fedora.im> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2257913
2024-01-17 16:09:57 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !hi
2024-01-17 16:10:01 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his
2024-01-17 16:10:03 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> !hi
2024-01-17 16:10:05 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Jonathan Wright (jonathanspw)
2024-01-17 16:10:14 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> sorry, was distracted by anaconda PR debugging
2024-01-17 16:10:22 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> yeah, brick. just bought the house over the summer, so lots of deferred maintenance
2024-01-17 16:10:28 <@salimma:fedora.im> apparently there's some research that fireplaces, while it warms the space just in front, often have almost no impact for the entire house as it just sucks cold air in :) so... maybe you're not missing out that much Neil Hanlon :P
2024-01-17 16:10:48 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> stoves aren't like that, they're super efficient
2024-01-17 16:10:56 <@johnvi:fedora.im> I wanted to check when and rawhide iso "rawhide/Everything/aarch64/iso" will be available for testing on a Renesas board. Thank you
2024-01-17 16:11:02 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I need to update this for Fedora meetbot
2024-01-17 16:11:03 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> fireplaces, though.. yeah. they're kinda trash heh
2024-01-17 16:11:11 <@salimma:fedora.im> johnv: ah... that's nothing to do with us unfortunately
2024-01-17 16:11:15 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> for one, "CentOS Hyperscale SIG" instead of just "Hyperscale SIG"
2024-01-17 16:11:27 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> been heating my whole house for the past 3 days in 10F with just the wood stove...using maybe 20 pieces of wood per day at most.
2024-01-17 16:11:30 <@salimma:fedora.im> is there a Fedora IOT meeting I wonder
2024-01-17 16:11:38 <@salimma:fedora.im> ah, stoves, so no big chimney on top?
2024-01-17 16:11:48 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> do we have a meeting collision?
2024-01-17 16:11:53 <@johnvi:fedora.im> Michel Lind🎩: ok. Thanks
2024-01-17 16:12:02 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> https://www.energy.gov/energysaver/wood-and-pellet-heating
2024-01-17 16:12:03 <@jlinton:fedora.im> Its probably my fault I copy pasted the ical export and it sent him here, the IoT meeting is on irc in #meeting:fedoraproject.org 
2024-01-17 16:12:06 <@salimma:fedora.im> definitely. I cribbed it from one of the December meetings, but the template also just says Hyperscale
2024-01-17 16:12:22 <@salimma:fedora.im> oops. at the same time slot?
2024-01-17 16:12:37 <@johnvi:fedora.im> Jeremy Linton: Thanks Jeremy
2024-01-17 16:12:38 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> we can move to another room to de-conflict
2024-01-17 16:12:42 <@salimma:fedora.im> we need to defragment this meeting slot time before everyone switches over to Matrix :)
2024-01-17 16:12:53 <@salimma:fedora.im> well, not this week as IOT is still meeting on IRC right?
2024-01-17 16:12:57 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> yeah
2024-01-17 16:13:07 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> but we should coordinate and figure out what to do here
2024-01-17 16:13:13 <@salimma:fedora.im> but yeah we should probably be the ones to mvoe, since we didn't use to take the Fedora meeting rooms
2024-01-17 16:13:19 <@jlinton:fedora.im> matrix, keeps changing the link `#fedora-meeting` 
2024-01-17 16:13:23 <@salimma:fedora.im> Conan Kudo: want to sort it out?
2024-01-17 16:13:32 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> yeah I'll do it, gimme the action item
2024-01-17 16:13:42 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I have to update everything else related to it anyway
2024-01-17 16:13:56 <@salimma:fedora.im> !action Conan Kudo switch us over to an unused Fedora meeting rooms and update the meeting wiki
2024-01-17 16:14:12 <@salimma:fedora.im> I already marked the page to update earlier so let's move on
2024-01-17 16:14:16 <@salimma:fedora.im> !topic Announcements
2024-01-17 16:14:36 <@salimma:fedora.im> anything here? possibly CentOS Connect related?
2024-01-17 16:15:08 <@davide:cavalca.name> Connect schedule is out
2024-01-17 16:15:21 <@davide:cavalca.name> We will have a meetup on the first day
2024-01-17 16:15:36 <@salimma:fedora.im> !link https://connect.centos.org/#schedule
2024-01-17 16:15:42 <@davide:cavalca.name> I'll rig an event so folks can join remotely as well and bring the meetup camera like the last time
2024-01-17 16:15:50 <@salimma:fedora.im> ah bummer, conflict with CentOS Integration SIG meetup
2024-01-17 16:16:07 <@salimma:fedora.im> and I guess Neil Hanlon will be at the Rocky Linux meetup at the same time too
2024-01-17 16:16:16 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> all the meetups :( 
2024-01-17 16:16:20 <@davide:cavalca.name> I would not be surprised if all meetups eventually converge in the same room
2024-01-17 16:16:24 <@salimma:fedora.im> looks like we can stay in the same room for the Alternative Images SIG meetup so that works out
2024-01-17 16:16:26 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> let's just all meet in one room
2024-01-17 16:16:44 <@salimma:fedora.im> Neil Hanlon: have you heard about the AV situation?
2024-01-17 16:17:04 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> I haven't yet
2024-01-17 16:17:05 <@davide:cavalca.name> We can organize logistics as we get closer but doing say the last hour all together seems reasonable 
2024-01-17 16:17:06 <@salimma:fedora.im> Davide should probably shed some details here, people organizing events in other rooms might need to prep
2024-01-17 16:17:14 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> can host the jitsi if that helps
2024-01-17 16:17:19 <@davide:cavalca.name> For meetups we'll be fine
2024-01-17 16:17:28 <@salimma:fedora.im> oh right, meetups won't be recorded anyway
2024-01-17 16:17:38 <@salimma:fedora.im> and there's only one track for all the talks
2024-01-17 16:17:53 <@davide:cavalca.name> AV for the actual conference is wip. The hotel asked for extortionate rates so Shaun and I are organizing a diy solution 
2024-01-17 16:18:35 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> oof
2024-01-17 16:18:44 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I am not surprised.
2024-01-17 16:18:48 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> if you need help, please let me know. i have cycles.
2024-01-17 16:18:56 <@salimma:fedora.im> "such a nice event you have here, shame if anything were to happen to it"
2024-01-17 16:19:13 <@salimma:fedora.im> any other announcement?
2024-01-17 16:19:29 <@davide:cavalca.name> Thanks Neil. Will check with Shaun and let you know.
2024-01-17 16:20:12 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> not sure if it's announcement, but we did get asked for a quarterly report last night
2024-01-17 16:20:41 <@salimma:fedora.im> I think it does, yes
2024-01-17 16:20:45 <@davide:cavalca.name> Yep we need to write that
2024-01-17 16:20:56 <@salimma:fedora.im> Davide Cavalca: want to start a hackmd?
2024-01-17 16:21:17 <@davide:cavalca.name> I would of hackmd worked at all for me
2024-01-17 16:21:23 <@davide:cavalca.name> I'm locked out of my account there
2024-01-17 16:21:27 <@salimma:fedora.im> oh gosh. still broken huh
2024-01-17 16:21:39 <@salimma:fedora.im> yeah we need something that works for everyone. hmm
2024-01-17 16:21:48 <@salimma:fedora.im> I'm trying to remember the name of that privacy-preserving online thing
2024-01-17 16:21:54 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> https://etherpad.opendev.org/ is an option
2024-01-17 16:21:59 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> hedgedoc?
2024-01-17 16:22:45 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> maybe we should get a hedgedoc deployment up :/
2024-01-17 16:22:51 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> the current situation kind of stinks
2024-01-17 16:23:00 <@salimma:fedora.im> first time I've heard of it but that sounds interesting
2024-01-17 16:23:10 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> yeah looks nice
2024-01-17 16:23:11 <@salimma:fedora.im> let me dig up on the side because I want to remember what the other one is
2024-01-17 16:23:25 <@salimma:fedora.im> but yeah we can discuss this in the normal channel later
2024-01-17 16:23:42 <@salimma:fedora.im> I forgot to do the Followups topic so it's coming up next, unless there are other announcements?
2024-01-17 16:23:43 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> you may have been thinking of Framapad
2024-01-17 16:24:03 <@salimma:fedora.im> so many of these solutions :). no, something else
2024-01-17 16:24:12 <@salimma:fedora.im> but if Framapad is by Framapiaf that sounds good
2024-01-17 16:24:19 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> no more announcements from me
2024-01-17 16:24:49 <@salimma:fedora.im> oh, Cryptpad!
2024-01-17 16:25:37 <@salimma:fedora.im> !topic Followups
2024-01-17 16:25:52 <@salimma:fedora.im> anyone has updates on what they've been working on since.. late December?
2024-01-17 16:26:17 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> I made some progress on the anaconda stack; hoping to put PRs up this week. 
2024-01-17 16:26:27 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> That libvirt bug I mentioned last week (or week before?) got patched with my PR
2024-01-17 16:26:52 <@salimma:fedora.im> neat
2024-01-17 16:27:07 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> nice work
2024-01-17 16:27:16 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> RH/stream decided not to merge my fix so the bug will exist in EL 9.3 and centos stream for a bit longer in case anyone is impactesd
2024-01-17 16:27:28 <@salimma:fedora.im> the new linux-firmware is out (the December snapshot). per Peter Robinson's advice we now have rdfind in Hyperscale too, since it will soon enter CentOS Stream anyway
2024-01-17 16:27:44 <@salimma:fedora.im> jonathanspw: is it worth packaging a patched version in Hyperscale?
2024-01-17 16:27:54 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> IMO, yes
2024-01-17 16:27:54 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> I am thinking of carrying this in SIG/FastTrack, btw
2024-01-17 16:27:56 <@salimma:fedora.im> and... what was the reasoning for not merging it?
2024-01-17 16:28:00 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> I am thinking of carrying this in Rocky SIG/FastTrack, btw
2024-01-17 16:28:17 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> The usual....lack of demand mostly
2024-01-17 16:28:44 <@salimma:fedora.im> Neil Hanlon: interesting. that's for Rocky/Alma/RHEL, right, not for Stream?
2024-01-17 16:28:57 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> Alma has the fix in base repos
2024-01-17 16:28:57 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> Would work on Stream, too (or, should, anyways)
2024-01-17 16:29:08 <@salimma:fedora.im> sigh. you'd think if it's a bugfix ... but yeah fair enough, someone does have to evaluate it
2024-01-17 16:29:28 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> Hmm libvirt 10.0.0 got merged into stream repo 21 hours ago.  It should have the fix in it.
2024-01-17 16:29:36 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> so maybe a non-issue for stream.  9.3 is stuck with it tho
2024-01-17 16:29:38 <@salimma:fedora.im> yay
2024-01-17 16:29:42 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> there's probably going to be a similar situation with https://issues.redhat.com/browse/RHEL-21257 -- but, it's a pretty minor bug
2024-01-17 16:29:43 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> https://gitlab.com/redhat/centos-stream/rpms/libvirt/-/merge_requests/85
2024-01-17 16:29:50 <@salimma:fedora.im> this is Hyperscale. a lot of us don't care about 9.3 :D
2024-01-17 16:30:09 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> HS sig packages still work on 9.3 :p
2024-01-17 16:30:20 <@salimma:fedora.im> yeah but by accident not by design
2024-01-17 16:30:24 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> fair
2024-01-17 16:30:37 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> honestly the big TIL for me on that libvirt MR is that libvirt is maintained as src git
2024-01-17 16:30:39 <@salimma:fedora.im> wearing my EPEL hat I do care about 9.3 bugs though but that's another matter for... later today :)
2024-01-17 16:30:50 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> I try to help everyone in the ecosystem :p
2024-01-17 16:31:42 <@salimma:fedora.im> any other followups?
2024-01-17 16:32:18 <@salimma:fedora.im> ack. though a bit sad that it's likely everyone but RHEL end up redoing this fix :(
2024-01-17 16:32:54 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> well, I'm working on something exciting for c10s ;)
2024-01-17 16:33:09 <@salimma:fedora.im> kernel? something else?
2024-01-17 16:33:19 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> Something else :)
2024-01-17 16:34:10 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> So, aleasto and I from the Fedora KDE SIG ported Anaconda's initial-setup wizard to run on top of a Wayland compositor (specifically Weston). This went live with initial-setup 0.3.100. Additionally, I've noted it in ELN Extras to be tracked for EPEL 10.
2024-01-17 16:35:01 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> It's an XWayland app for now, but it means that live images from Hyperscale, Alt Images, and other RHEL derivatives in the RHEL 10 era will be able to have two-stage installation setups.
2024-01-17 16:35:10 <@salimma:fedora.im> nice
2024-01-17 16:35:18 <@salimma:fedora.im> this is the old initial-setup that GNOME does not use, right?
2024-01-17 16:35:22 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> yes
2024-01-17 16:35:25 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> nice!
2024-01-17 16:35:27 <@salimma:fedora.im> it was neat, I used to trigger it on TUI installs
2024-01-17 16:35:29 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> all the non-GNOME stuff needs this wizard
2024-01-17 16:35:39 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> that's cool. i remember seeing a devel thread on that a while back
2024-01-17 16:35:42 <@salimma:fedora.im> Wayland everywhere TM
2024-01-17 16:36:16 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !link https://github.com/rhinstaller/initial-setup/pull/149
2024-01-17 16:36:20 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> Not on my workstation 😈
2024-01-17 16:36:58 <@salimma:fedora.im> Neil Hanlon: next thing you'll tell me you don't run systemd ;)
2024-01-17 16:37:07 <@salimma:fedora.im> Rockuan Linux :D
2024-01-17 16:37:11 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> BSD all day
2024-01-17 16:37:18 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> On top of that, I'm working on doing the same thing for Anaconda itself and have made progress, though I'm working with mkolman to get it all working and merged.
2024-01-17 16:37:31 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !link https://github.com/rhinstaller/anaconda/pull/5401
2024-01-17 16:37:38 <@salimma:fedora.im> I miss my tinkering-with-BSD days
2024-01-17 16:37:45 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> same..
2024-01-17 16:37:48 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> Courtesy of Velocity Limitless 😉
2024-01-17 16:40:17 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> Debugging lorax is... fun
2024-01-17 16:40:44 <@salimma:fedora.im> it's super useful though, lorax
2024-01-17 16:41:06 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> it does speak for the trees
2024-01-17 16:41:06 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> dangerous... but useful
2024-01-17 16:41:09 <@salimma:fedora.im> I think I used it the last time I wanted to inject a kickstart into an existing ISO. quite nifty, pretty sure Secure Boot still works
2024-01-17 16:41:22 <@salimma:fedora.im> that's the one bclane wrote right?
2024-01-17 16:41:26 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> yes
2024-01-17 16:41:39 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> to replace the silly putty of shell, python, and perl scripts used before 15 years ago
2024-01-17 16:41:56 <@salimma:fedora.im> Python and Perl in the same project. someone is bound to get upset
2024-01-17 16:42:34 <@salimma:fedora.im> moving on?
2024-01-17 16:42:38 <@salimma:fedora.im> !topic Tickets
2024-01-17 16:42:45 <@salimma:fedora.im> !link https://pagure.io/centos-sig-hyperscale/sig/issues
2024-01-17 16:42:58 <@salimma:fedora.im> I should close this one
2024-01-17 16:43:03 <@salimma:fedora.im> !link https://pagure.io/centos-sig-hyperscale/sig/issue/157
2024-01-17 16:44:38 <@salimma:fedora.im> !link https://pagure.io/centos-sig-hyperscale/sig/issue/130
2024-01-17 16:44:40 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> yeah this is effectively done
2024-01-17 16:44:43 <@salimma:fedora.im> Conan Kudo: can we close this?
2024-01-17 16:44:47 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> yep
2024-01-17 16:44:52 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> it's effectively done
2024-01-17 16:45:03 <@salimma:fedora.im> right, I remember us migrating the room a while ago
2024-01-17 16:45:32 <@salimma:fedora.im> anyone seen anything else that needs an update or can be closed?
2024-01-17 16:45:57 <@salimma:fedora.im> ha, issue 7 is about a modern kernel :). hopefully we get the arc kernel soon
2024-01-17 16:46:04 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> yeah
2024-01-17 16:46:23 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> some Fedora KDE stuff swallowed up the time I needed to polish an initial build
2024-01-17 16:46:38 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> but I'm on it today, esp with our social this evening :)
2024-01-17 16:47:04 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I think one we probably want to talk about is this one:
2024-01-17 16:47:06 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !link https://pagure.io/centos-sig-hyperscale/sig/issue/99
2024-01-17 16:47:32 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> we have three choices here: retarget to c10s, have someone work on it for c9s, or close it
2024-01-17 16:48:09 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I know that Davide Cavalca has been working on a qemu build for EPEL, but there are a couple of other pieces that are needed too
2024-01-17 16:48:24 <@davide:cavalca.name> yes, I have qemu and libvirt tagged in testing
2024-01-17 16:48:40 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> do you want to be assigned this to complete the work?
2024-01-17 16:48:44 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> since you've been doing stuff here
2024-01-17 16:49:01 <@davide:cavalca.name> if someone here is interested in helping actually test them, that'd be useful
2024-01-17 16:49:07 <@davide:cavalca.name> yeah, that's fine
2024-01-17 16:49:14 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I think we can get some testers for that
2024-01-17 16:49:16 <@davide:cavalca.name> I also need to follow up with the folks on my end that work on this
2024-01-17 16:49:22 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> I can help test, yeah
2024-01-17 16:49:39 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> qemu-8.1.0-2.1.hsx.el9 right?
2024-01-17 16:49:45 <@davide:cavalca.name> especially whether stuff like cockpit and the other things that use these keep working
2024-01-17 16:49:46 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !action Davide Cavalca will work to complete centos-sig-hyperscale/sig#99
2024-01-17 16:50:04 <@davide:cavalca.name> yeah that was it
2024-01-17 16:50:15 <@davide:cavalca.name> and libvirt-9.7.0-1.hs.el9
2024-01-17 16:52:03 <@salimma:fedora.im> anything else?
2024-01-17 16:52:09 <@salimma:fedora.im> oh wow this is turning into a long meeting :)
2024-01-17 16:52:37 <@salimma:fedora.im> !topic Membership
2024-01-17 16:52:49 <@salimma:fedora.im> I don't think we have anyone to process this time
2024-01-17 16:53:35 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> Nope.
2024-01-17 16:53:35 <@salimma:fedora.im> !topic Miscellaneous
2024-01-17 16:53:43 <@salimma:fedora.im> open floor it is then :)
2024-01-17 16:53:56 <@salimma:fedora.im> if we already talked about everything in the first few mins, we can end this early
2024-01-17 16:54:12 <@davide:cavalca.name> we have the hangout later this afternoon
2024-01-17 16:54:18 <@davide:cavalca.name> at... 2pm PT I believe?
2024-01-17 16:54:32 <@salimma:fedora.im> let me double check the calendar
2024-01-17 16:54:42 <@salimma:fedora.im> yeah
2024-01-17 16:54:52 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> yup
2024-01-17 16:54:56 <@salimma:fedora.im> !link https://www.google.com/url?q=https://us06web.zoom.us/j/84411093900?pwd%3DRUxKUFAxVlJnQWVMODhobThLU3BHdz09&sa=D&source=calendar&usd=2&usg=AOvVaw2RH0XmWW371acLAxLwczho
2024-01-17 16:55:02 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> uhhh
2024-01-17 16:55:05 <@salimma:fedora.im> gah, at least Google's redirect is readable
2024-01-17 16:55:06 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> Dutch?
2024-01-17 16:55:16 <@salimma:fedora.im> wait what? it looks English to me :)
2024-01-17 16:55:38 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> for some reason, I got dutch in the preview
2024-01-17 16:55:39 <@salimma:fedora.im> what language do you have your Matrix client set to Conan Kudo ;)
2024-01-17 16:55:48 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> it _should_ be English
2024-01-17 16:55:50 <@salimma:fedora.im> I guess we know it's generated locally then
2024-01-17 16:55:55 <@salimma:fedora.im> you're not already in Belgium are you 
2024-01-17 16:56:05 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> i am, mentally...
2024-01-17 16:56:09 <@jordanrome:matrix.org> I also got not english
2024-01-17 16:56:27 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> my client didn't generate a preview 
2024-01-17 16:56:35 <@davide:cavalca.name> it's in English here
2024-01-17 16:56:53 <@salimma:fedora.im> maybe New Amsterdam is back
2024-01-17 16:56:57 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> lol
2024-01-17 16:56:58 <@salimma:fedora.im> and is taking over the Greater NY Area
2024-01-17 16:56:58 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> did you forget to turn off the universal translater, Neal?
2024-01-17 16:57:00 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I'll take it
2024-01-17 16:57:12 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> the Dutch are "gouda" :)
2024-01-17 16:57:17 <@salimma:fedora.im> Neal is dogfooding the new Babelfish
2024-01-17 16:57:55 <@salimma:fedora.im> oh I should look into bringing back some aged cheese
2024-01-17 16:58:07 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> don't tell customs :P
2024-01-17 16:58:10 <@salimma:fedora.im> if you can get good Dutch cheese across the border in Belgium
2024-01-17 16:58:20 <@salimma:fedora.im> ah shoot, cheese is not allowed too? I know meat products are not
2024-01-17 16:58:38 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> small portions are, but larger amounts require customs declarations I think
2024-01-17 16:58:53 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> and you still can't bring anything in using raw milk
2024-01-17 16:58:56 <@salimma:fedora.im> ah, it's for the kiddo so it should be fine I guess
2024-01-17 16:59:06 <@salimma:fedora.im> yeah, I was surprised that restaurant in NY has unpasteurized French cheese
2024-01-17 16:59:08 <@jordanrome:matrix.org> They took away all my chorizo when I came back from Spain!
2024-01-17 16:59:12 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> yep. Just don't bring kilos of illegal cheese and you'll be fine 
2024-01-17 16:59:17 <@salimma:fedora.im> it's either local but French style or... wink
2024-01-17 16:59:25 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> I once brought home brewed beef with me back from Berlin...
2024-01-17 16:59:32 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> beer... not beef
2024-01-17 16:59:37 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> wtf is home brew beef.
2024-01-17 16:59:50 <@salimma:fedora.im> I was hoping to bring back bak kwa from Singapore, so yeah it's similar to chorizo in a way I guess. pork jerky, but sweet 
2024-01-17 17:00:16 <@salimma:fedora.im> `brew install beef`
2024-01-17 17:00:30 <@salimma:fedora.im> and it looks like we're out of time!
2024-01-17 17:00:44 <@salimma:fedora.im> I can't make the afternoon hangout but hope y'all have fun!
2024-01-17 17:00:47 <@salimma:fedora.im> !endmeeting