05:09:59 #startmeeting i18n 05:09:59 Meeting started Thu Aug 12 05:09:59 2010 UTC. The chair is juhp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 05:09:59 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 05:10:19 #meetingname i18n 05:10:19 The meeting name has been set to 'i18n' 05:11:50 welcome to this week's i18n meeting 05:12:09 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2010-08-12 05:12:31 sorry for the late start... 05:15:39 * juhp waits for people to appear 05:15:56 hi 05:16:08 hi 05:16:49 hi epico_laptop and jni 05:17:14 hi 05:17:56 hi dueno 05:21:55 anyone else? :) 05:22:09 hi 05:22:21 ok maybe we start and see who appears 05:22:26 hi fujiwarat 05:24:04 hi 05:24:10 hi 05:24:20 * juhp tweaks the agenda list 05:24:27 let's start with F14 05:24:36 #topic F14 05:25:30 I think F14 Alpha is getting stable as in installable now after a bumpy ride in the last week 05:25:39 but slipping by 1 week 05:25:48 yes 05:26:35 We probably need more info for the relnotes https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_I18n_Beat 05:27:18 if you have something that needs mentioning or documenting then please add it 05:27:34 * juhp didn't know about zenheiset 05:29:34 epico_laptop: is that a separate package? 05:29:47 not, just a shell script. 05:30:03 ok so including in the main package 05:30:16 in wqy-zenhei-fonts-0.9.45 05:30:18 yes 05:30:20 epico_laptop: and it added .conf file to ~/.fonts/ ? 05:30:25 adds 05:30:41 not, it affects the system wide. 05:30:48 aha 05:32:12 epico_laptop: I see - in long term I think we really want a general tool for all font configuration, but guess bitmap is particularly popular for chinese 05:32:44 * epico_laptop think so. 05:32:52 epico_laptop: how many people use bitmap do you think? 05:33:08 about a half. 05:33:40 maybe from 1/4 to 3/4. 05:33:56 by choice? :) 05:34:30 yes. 05:34:33 .bug 620615 05:34:34 epico_laptop: Bug 620615 fedora 13 yum update 后系统中文字体变得没有原来清楚了。很模糊。 - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620615 05:34:45 aha 05:34:46 a bug report to request bitmap font. 05:34:51 cool 05:34:55 I see 05:38:33 2 target bugs 05:38:55 one is freetype which is already in QA 05:40:15 and the other Java font support for Japanese 05:40:26 nim-nim made a valid comment 05:40:42 openjdk really needs to support fontconfig properly 05:41:21 #topic bugs days 05:41:38 paragan: maybe next week we can set a date for the first one? 05:41:48 sure 05:42:35 hm or the one after - but maybe next week assuming alpha is ready to ship the following week 05:43:49 #topic bug stats 05:45:43 rawhide: 36 bugs (-1); 16 NEW (0) 05:45:48 F14: 37 bugs (+5); 16 NEW (+1) 05:48:03 F13: 47 bugs (+2); 24 NEW (+2) 05:48:03 F12: 60 bugs (0), 39 NEW (+1) 05:48:03 15 package reviews (+1) 05:48:20 numbers going up this week 05:48:48 #topic fonts/rendering 05:49:13 any topics to discuss for fonts or rendering? 05:50:01 mtasaka mentioned a change with new freetype - though said it wasn't a problem 05:50:08 not quite sure that the change is yet 05:50:20 what 05:51:03 ok 05:53:55 .bug 623085 05:53:56 juhp: Bug 623085 Rendering error for Chinese character using wqy-zenhei - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=623085 05:54:29 hmm 05:55:05 I will reply that soon. 05:55:16 sure thanks 05:55:25 welcome. 05:56:42 #topic Input methods 05:57:13 ibus-sayura and ibus-rawcode looks stable now, no new bugs from long time :) 05:57:24 goodie 05:59:08 I patched imsettings to change the behaviour of none.conf - so that it does not use the XIM path by default any more 05:59:54 rather now only enable xcompose with XIM for pt_BR and fi_FI (and more other locales that need it) 05:59:56 juhp: thanks 06:00:20 tagoh: I guess it is good that "off" now if really "off" 06:00:35 yep 06:00:47 we may also disable XIM for qt - after consulting the KDE SIG for input on that 06:01:49 so people who what to use the XIM immodule code path will have to use xcompose (or some valid XIM client^Wserver of course) 06:02:23 if -> is 06:02:53 what = want ... 06:03:05 anyway - any other news on the IM front? 06:03:23 tagoh: how is the license of mozc coming out? :) 06:04:01 no progress from upstream actually. 06:04:24 trying to find out if there are any further issues there. 06:04:25 waiting? 06:04:28 okay 06:04:51 hope it will be clear in next update 06:04:58 cool 06:06:04 * juhp wonders about "*may* need to be rebuilt against Python 2.7"? 06:10:50 epico_laptop: yeah seems ibus-pinyin and ibus-xkbc have rebuild issues 06:11:26 we should do something about the FTBFS for ibus-table-* 06:11:38 well try to talk to dychen soon... 06:12:19 #topic package reviews 06:12:54 will check it later. 06:13:14 :) 06:13:48 epico_laptop: ibus-pinyin is boost - not sure what is going on there: doesn't like new boost-1.44? 06:14:26 14 packages reviews (maybe one was closed recently?) 06:14:47 sorry, about 4-5 bugs report today, just see the build log. 06:15:27 will see to finish review assigned to me 06:16:03 great 06:16:51 alright I think we are mostly out of time 06:17:25 #topic open 06:17:52 other updates/issues/topics to raise today? :) 06:18:45 if not let's close our meeting shortly 06:19:37 f14alpha rc3 should install I think if people want to test btw 06:20:05 ok then thanks for the meeting! 06:20:21 #endmeeting