05:03:58 #startmeeting i18n 05:03:59 Meeting started Thu Apr 21 05:03:58 2011 UTC. The chair is tagoh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 05:03:59 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 05:04:03 #meetingname i18n 05:04:03 The meeting name has been set to 'i18n' 05:04:19 #topic agenda and roll call 05:04:28 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2011-04-21 05:04:53 hi 05:05:03 hi 05:05:19 hi 05:05:41 hi 05:05:50 hi 05:06:04 hi guys 05:07:14 ok, let's get started then 05:07:19 #topic F15 05:08:10 f15 beta has been released. next milestone would be "Final Change Deadline" on May 9. 05:09:27 24 bugs open, including 17 new and 2 blockers proposed 05:10:22 any concerns so far? 05:11:19 particularly if there are any issues not yet filed 05:12:00 I haven't actually tried the beta, but current f15 live looks reasonably good :) 05:12:12 good 05:14:39 any bugs? 05:15:23 I do find some kickstart bugs for F-14 though. :-P 05:16:59 similar issue though, no im-chooser-gnome3 on upgrading. not a big deal but just wonder if I should get back im-chooser.desktop for everyone - it's hidden for gnome desktop so far because of dup with cc module 05:18:31 dingyichen: does it also happen on f15? 05:18:32 hmm 05:18:54 tagoh: so no way to pull in im-chooser-gnome3? 05:19:36 with anaconda yeah. no packages has deps to it 05:19:56 tagoh, well, one for RHEL6 ksflatten, and one for Fedora14 repo 05:20:07 upgrading with yum should simply works though 05:20:26 dingyichen: we are on f15 topic now :) 05:20:36 ok. 05:22:49 hm, any idea? :) 05:23:07 tagoh: how about the idea we discussed last week? 05:23:11 ibus-gtk3? 05:23:55 of course strictly a gtk immodule should not need to pull in im-chooser... 05:24:51 hm, well, this isn't so critical since im-chooser itself is there on even upgrading. it doesn't just appear on the menu on gnome3 now 05:25:06 right yeah 05:25:13 still would be nice to have it there 05:25:20 yep 05:25:37 or should control-center pull it in? 05:25:42 or something 05:25:54 aha 05:25:55 well anyway - maybe there is nothing to do dunno 05:26:52 that somewhat sounds reasonable 05:27:35 (don't really like the split of kbd setting across "Keyboard" and "Region and Language" but that is another story) 05:28:12 ok, anything else? 05:29:33 let me try to file a bug against cc 05:34:04 ok, guess better move on 05:34:13 #topic Package Updates 05:35:16 mozc and vlgothic-fonts are in testing now 05:35:20 aha 05:35:43 mozc seems supporting handwriting in this release 05:35:57 nice 05:36:20 referring the model file in zinnia-tomoe 05:37:14 tagoh: optional package? 05:37:25 no 05:38:26 "mozc" requires zinnia-tomoe for that 05:38:28 now 05:39:02 the fedora package? :) 05:39:19 because no separate binary but mozc_tool contains all the features for UI-wise 05:40:29 building without zinnia may simply drops the feature but dunno didn't try that :) 05:40:48 apparently it's ifdef'd in the source code though 05:41:12 was trying to say that one has to install zinnia-tomoe as well 05:41:18 yes 05:41:34 so in that sense it is optional :) 05:41:39 s/"mozc"/"mozc" package/ 05:42:55 no choice to drop it unless rebuild the package so far anyway.. 05:43:10 yeah but choice not to install it :) 05:43:32 no wonder. it's not a default IM :) 05:43:47 I am talking about zinnia-tomoe 05:44:13 ah maybe I am installing an older build? 05:44:27 it pulled in zinnia though 05:44:44 anyway... not that important - it was just a comment 05:44:50 handwriting doesn't work properly on -0.1 05:45:06 -0.2 is the latest, which requires zinnia-tomoe now 05:45:17 also fixing the model file path too 05:45:37 ah ok I see 05:45:40 cool 05:45:49 anyway 05:45:51 that's explains all then :) 05:45:57 anything else? 05:46:20 look forward to trying that then 05:46:39 juhp: sorry for confusion. pushing updated mozc twice for that 05:46:53 np 05:47:35 if no particular updates for testing, shall we move on then? 05:47:57 #topic Input Methods 05:48:34 40 bugs open, including 23 bugs in new status and 1 new release 05:50:46 I don't like to say but I think the ibus-mozc icon is better than ibus-anthy's - that was the kind of simple icon I had in mind with just an あ say 05:51:36 maybe with gnome3 would be a good time to revisit icons - but I think fujiwarat has some plans for unifying with the keyboard indicator that may help there :) 05:52:17 aha 05:53:15 any updates on IM? 05:55:19 updated ibus is now in update-testing repository. 05:55:27 cool 05:55:50 will try for some testing :) 05:56:49 dueno, epico_laptop: do you have anything on IM? 05:58:37 paragan: any testing feedback for the updated inscript maps yet? 06:00:39 tagoh, fujiwarat kindly figured out the cause of ibus-m17n crash on F-14, and I'll submit an update soon 06:01:07 cool 06:01:30 tagoh: I get new review comments from upstream for ibus-pinyin English input mode. 06:01:49 aha 06:02:26 how was it? 06:03:17 still code styles changes, and make that feature configurable in ibus-pinyin. 06:03:53 ok 06:05:15 ok, let's move on 06:05:23 #topic Fonts and Rendering 06:05:56 33+32 bugs open, including 23+17 bugs in new and 3+1 new releases 06:06:50 hm, maybe I should file a bug for motoya fonts instead of the original reporter 06:07:59 juhp, no feedback yet on inscript maps 06:08:21 but they are working fine with rupee symbol 06:09:37 ok 06:09:47 .bug 695405 06:09:49 tagoh: Bug 695405 non-latin charachters in default gnome-shell looks different from the cantarell - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=695405 06:10:04 better checking that I suppose 06:11:21 tagoh: is it related to motoya? 06:11:32 no, not at all 06:12:50 ah ok 06:13:03 just looking at bugs :) 06:13:07 ok 06:13:55 ok, anything else? 06:15:50 if not, let's close the meeting shortly 06:17:26 ok, thanks everyone for the meeting! 06:17:30 #endmeeting