06:02:57 <tagoh_> #startmeeting i18n
06:02:57 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu May  2 06:02:57 2013 UTC.  The chair is tagoh_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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06:02:57 <tagoh_> #meetingname i18n
06:02:57 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'i18n'
06:02:58 <tagoh_> #topic agenda and roll call
06:02:58 <tagoh_> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2013-05-02
06:03:06 <tagoh_> okay, shall we have i18n meeting
06:03:06 <epico> hi
06:03:13 <dueno> hi
06:05:55 <pravins> hi
06:06:09 <paragan> hi
06:07:21 <tagoh_> okay, let's get started
06:07:37 <tagoh_> #topic Upcoming schedule
06:07:38 <tagoh_> #info 2013-05-02        Test_Day:2013-05-02_Localization_(i18n)
06:07:39 <tagoh_> #info 2013-05-06        Wiki Freeze: Beta Release Notes
06:07:39 <tagoh_> #info 2013-05-07        Software Translation Deadline
06:07:40 <tagoh_> #info 2013-05-14        Beta Change Deadline
06:07:41 <tagoh_> #info 2013-05-14        Features 100% Complete
06:07:42 <tagoh_> #info 2013-05-28        Beta Release
06:08:13 <tagoh_> i18n test day is ongoing finally.
06:09:01 <pravins> yeah :)
06:09:16 <tagoh_> please make sure by yourself again if all of test cases are applicable and works for your language
06:09:27 <tagoh_> and update test cases as needed
06:10:14 <tagoh_> wish a lot of people including you will join this time.
06:11:33 <tagoh_> aside from that, docbeats due date for beta is coming soon
06:11:52 <tagoh_> next Monday if no changes in schedule
06:12:17 <tagoh_> will catch up in later topic anyway
06:12:42 <tagoh_> #topic Outstanding topics
06:12:43 <tagoh_> #info #16: Improving testcases/matrix for i18n test day (tagoh)
06:12:43 <tagoh_> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/16
06:13:04 <tagoh_> so anyone else noticed anything about i18n test day so far?
06:15:46 <juhp> (hi)
06:15:47 <tagoh_> or no one is yet trying? ;)
06:16:14 <pravins> tagoh_: me reported one bug also against yum-langpacks ;)
06:16:30 <tagoh_> pravins: cool
06:18:15 <tagoh_> pravins: bug#?
06:18:37 <pravins> .bug 958630
06:18:39 <zodbot> pravins: Bug 958630 langinstall should install lang support for only installed packages - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958630
06:20:57 <tagoh_> is it all? but not pulling in by deps for libreoffice?
06:21:28 <pravins> it is pulling libreoffice for libreoffice-hi package
06:21:37 <pravins> tagoh_: yes
06:22:20 <tagoh_> ah, okay. for installed packages
06:22:22 <tagoh_> hmm
06:22:28 <pravins> tagoh_: yeah.
06:23:03 <pravins> say if "x" language has   -"x"  packages for all fedora packages existing in repository
06:23:22 <pravins> $yum langinstall "x"  will install all fedora repository
06:23:42 <pravins> that is not expected
06:23:45 <tagoh_> only libreoffice this time?
06:24:16 <pravins> yeah for -hi only libreoffice i saw, firefox was already installed
06:24:38 <tagoh_> let me check for ja when testing yum-langpacks then
06:24:49 <pravins> tagoh_: sure
06:24:51 <tagoh_> thanks for sharing
06:24:57 <pravins> welcome :)
06:24:58 <tagoh_> anything else?
06:25:33 <juhp> hmm
06:25:49 <juhp> brb - need some power
06:28:44 <tagoh_> okay, if not, let's move on. will keep open this ticket one week and review the result in next meeting.
06:29:22 <tagoh_> #info #18: F19 i18n docbeats (tagoh)
06:29:22 <tagoh_> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/18
06:29:30 <tagoh_> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_I18n_Beat
06:30:29 <tagoh_> fujiwarat: thanks for updating. is it everything for changes between 1.5.0 and 1.5.2?
06:31:05 <fujiwarat> tagoh_: I think so.
06:31:10 <tagoh_> okay
06:32:51 <tagoh_> anything else we should mention in relnotes?
06:33:21 <dueno> perhaps ibus-bogo should be mentioned there
06:33:36 <dueno> tuanta, ^ ?
06:33:45 <tagoh_> aha. what's that?
06:34:02 <tuanta> hi
06:34:11 <tuanta> hi dueno et all
06:34:27 <tuanta> ah, i18n meeting?
06:34:34 <tagoh_> yes
06:34:45 <tuanta> unfortunately, I have to go out now
06:34:47 <tagoh_> aha. Vietnamese engine
06:34:58 <tuanta> which topic are you discussing?
06:35:04 <tuanta> what can I involve?
06:35:22 <tuanta> yes, ibus-bogo is a new Vietnamese engine
06:35:42 <tagoh_> tuanta: we are trying to polish 1i8n related release notes and dueno is suggesting to mention about ibus-bogo there
06:35:53 <tuanta> great!
06:36:37 <tuanta> what missing stuffs I can provide?
06:36:52 <tuanta> please drop me an email if necessary
06:36:54 <tagoh_> what engines was used in f18? ibus-bogo is now default for Vietnamese in f19?
06:36:56 <tuanta> I have to go out now
06:37:07 <tuanta> it's used in F18
06:37:13 <tuanta> should be default for F19
06:38:04 <tuanta> nice to see it as default Vietnamese engine in f19
06:38:09 <tagoh_> what was default in f18?
06:38:21 <tuanta> nothing now
06:38:27 <tagoh_> ah, got it. okay
06:39:06 <tuanta> please drop me an email if you need any more information
06:39:09 <tuanta> I have to go out now
06:39:14 <tagoh_> okay, thanks!
06:39:15 <tuanta> thanks. see you
06:42:00 <juhp> dueno, so maybe we should add it in comps?
06:42:29 * tagoh_ updated relnotes
06:42:31 <dueno> perhaps, but there is no vietnamese-support
06:42:52 <tagoh_> in input-methods group I think?
06:43:22 <dueno> aha, is it sufficient?
06:43:45 <tagoh_> I think so
06:44:48 <tagoh_> pravins: how about noto?
06:45:47 <juhp> hmm it depends on qt ...
06:46:02 <tagoh_> oh?
06:46:27 <juhp> probably config (setup)
06:46:40 <tagoh_> what is "it"?
06:47:09 <juhp> ibus-bogo...
06:47:13 <dueno> right, it is for config
06:47:15 <tagoh_> aha
06:47:31 <tagoh_> well, I'm not that surprised since I see that in mozc too ;)
06:47:37 <juhp> so I think it would have to in vietnamese-support
06:47:43 <juhp> tagoh_, hehe
06:47:52 <juhp> well I was surprised :)
06:48:02 <juhp> ah is it from google?
06:49:06 <juhp> anyway seems good to mention in relnotes
06:50:31 <juhp> okay already there
06:50:55 <paragan> I can't find any entry for ibus-bogo in f19 comps
06:51:21 <pravins> tagoh_: still review is going on
06:51:27 <paragan> maybe first it need to be added under input-methods group
06:51:33 <tagoh_> pravins: ah, okay
06:51:52 <pravins> but tagoh_ it is must package for Fedora 19
06:52:00 <pravins> will make sure, it will be in Fedora 19
06:52:20 <tagoh_> hm
06:52:46 <tagoh_> pravins: we may miss it in relnotes perhaps then
06:52:55 <tagoh_> for beta at least
06:52:56 <juhp> paragan, there isn't...
06:52:58 <pravins> tagoh_:  yeah
06:53:12 <tagoh_> need to open a bug to update relnotes later
06:53:18 <pravins> ohh
06:53:29 <tagoh_> as we did for liberation last time
06:54:18 <juhp> review is still underway?
06:54:29 <tagoh_> okay, updated markup.
06:54:34 <pravins> paragan: ^^
06:54:54 <paragan> yes just waiting if someone need to comment on it like replacing droidsans with noto
06:55:08 <paragan> overall looks ok to me
06:55:14 <paragan> I will approve it today
06:55:30 <pravins> paragan: yeah, even me things we need some update in fontconfig file
06:55:40 <pravins> but may be we can do it in later stage.
06:56:38 <tagoh_> what's priority for noto so far?
06:57:09 <pravins> i have kept it 66 for all
06:58:34 <tagoh_> hmm, isn't it a LGC fonts?
06:58:54 <pravins> tagoh_: LGC?
06:59:25 <tagoh_> Latin-Greek-Cyrillic fonts
06:59:48 <pravins> ok got it
06:59:50 <pravins> thanks
07:00:02 <pravins> tagoh_: yes, this package has LGC fonts as well
07:00:15 <pravins> and Asian scripts as well
07:00:41 <tagoh_> aha. what lang affects with it?
07:00:41 <pravins> hmm might be LGC needs different priorities?
07:01:15 <tagoh_> they have. low prio LGC is assigned to 61-64
07:01:29 <pravins> tagoh_: google-noto has 21 subpackages and i have kept fontconf file separate for each one
07:01:43 <tagoh_> aha
07:02:15 <pravins> might be we can customize priorities, say for Devanagari 66 is safer and for LGC may be 63?
07:03:34 <tagoh_> does 66 work? g is less than l though
07:04:20 <pravins> i think yes
07:04:27 <tagoh_> okay
07:04:39 <tagoh_> any other suggestions for relnotes?
07:05:25 <tagoh_> juhp: can you help to polish it before pushing it?
07:05:35 <juhp> okay sure
07:05:44 <tagoh_> thanks
07:07:38 <tagoh_> if not, let's move on
07:08:36 <tagoh_> #info #19: gnu-free-fonts issue for Indic (aalam)
07:08:36 <tagoh_> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/19
07:10:13 <tagoh_> ah, I missed to update bugs for recipes okay...
07:10:52 <tagoh_> will do after the meeting then
07:11:29 <tagoh_> #topic Open Floor
07:11:37 <tagoh_> so any other topics to discuss in this meeting?
07:15:02 <tagoh_> if not, let's close the meeting shortly
07:15:24 <pravins> tagoh_: i am checking for it
07:15:24 <pravins> yes,  no success
07:15:24 <pravins> We have already done minus indic lang from gnu-free-serif conf file
07:15:24 <pravins> may be same way we should do for other fonts as well
07:15:24 <pravins> lohit does not have Lohit-Devanagari-Bold but gnu-free-sans has bold versions as well
07:15:42 <pravins> tagoh_: sure will discuss it after meeting :)
07:16:16 <tagoh_> aha. okay
07:17:46 <tagoh_> anything else?
07:19:14 <tagoh_> okay, thanks everyone for the meeting! please keep up your testing on test day event
07:19:26 <tagoh_> #endmeeting