06:02:57 #startmeeting i18n 06:02:57 Meeting started Thu May 2 06:02:57 2013 UTC. The chair is tagoh_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 06:02:57 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 06:02:57 #meetingname i18n 06:02:57 The meeting name has been set to 'i18n' 06:02:58 #topic agenda and roll call 06:02:58 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2013-05-02 06:03:06 okay, shall we have i18n meeting 06:03:06 hi 06:03:13 hi 06:05:55 hi 06:06:09 hi 06:07:21 okay, let's get started 06:07:37 #topic Upcoming schedule 06:07:38 #info 2013-05-02 Test_Day:2013-05-02_Localization_(i18n) 06:07:39 #info 2013-05-06 Wiki Freeze: Beta Release Notes 06:07:39 #info 2013-05-07 Software Translation Deadline 06:07:40 #info 2013-05-14 Beta Change Deadline 06:07:41 #info 2013-05-14 Features 100% Complete 06:07:42 #info 2013-05-28 Beta Release 06:08:13 i18n test day is ongoing finally. 06:09:01 yeah :) 06:09:16 please make sure by yourself again if all of test cases are applicable and works for your language 06:09:27 and update test cases as needed 06:10:14 wish a lot of people including you will join this time. 06:11:33 aside from that, docbeats due date for beta is coming soon 06:11:52 next Monday if no changes in schedule 06:12:17 will catch up in later topic anyway 06:12:42 #topic Outstanding topics 06:12:43 #info #16: Improving testcases/matrix for i18n test day (tagoh) 06:12:43 #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/16 06:13:04 so anyone else noticed anything about i18n test day so far? 06:15:46 (hi) 06:15:47 or no one is yet trying? ;) 06:16:14 tagoh_: me reported one bug also against yum-langpacks ;) 06:16:30 pravins: cool 06:18:15 pravins: bug#? 06:18:37 .bug 958630 06:18:39 pravins: Bug 958630 langinstall should install lang support for only installed packages - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958630 06:20:57 is it all? but not pulling in by deps for libreoffice? 06:21:28 it is pulling libreoffice for libreoffice-hi package 06:21:37 tagoh_: yes 06:22:20 ah, okay. for installed packages 06:22:22 hmm 06:22:28 tagoh_: yeah. 06:23:03 say if "x" language has -"x" packages for all fedora packages existing in repository 06:23:22 $yum langinstall "x" will install all fedora repository 06:23:42 that is not expected 06:23:45 only libreoffice this time? 06:24:16 yeah for -hi only libreoffice i saw, firefox was already installed 06:24:38 let me check for ja when testing yum-langpacks then 06:24:49 tagoh_: sure 06:24:51 thanks for sharing 06:24:57 welcome :) 06:24:58 anything else? 06:25:33 hmm 06:25:49 brb - need some power 06:28:44 okay, if not, let's move on. will keep open this ticket one week and review the result in next meeting. 06:29:22 #info #18: F19 i18n docbeats (tagoh) 06:29:22 #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/18 06:29:30 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_I18n_Beat 06:30:29 fujiwarat: thanks for updating. is it everything for changes between 1.5.0 and 1.5.2? 06:31:05 tagoh_: I think so. 06:31:10 okay 06:32:51 anything else we should mention in relnotes? 06:33:21 perhaps ibus-bogo should be mentioned there 06:33:36 tuanta, ^ ? 06:33:45 aha. what's that? 06:34:02 hi 06:34:11 hi dueno et all 06:34:27 ah, i18n meeting? 06:34:34 yes 06:34:45 unfortunately, I have to go out now 06:34:47 aha. Vietnamese engine 06:34:58 which topic are you discussing? 06:35:04 what can I involve? 06:35:22 yes, ibus-bogo is a new Vietnamese engine 06:35:42 tuanta: we are trying to polish 1i8n related release notes and dueno is suggesting to mention about ibus-bogo there 06:35:53 great! 06:36:37 what missing stuffs I can provide? 06:36:52 please drop me an email if necessary 06:36:54 what engines was used in f18? ibus-bogo is now default for Vietnamese in f19? 06:36:56 I have to go out now 06:37:07 it's used in F18 06:37:13 should be default for F19 06:38:04 nice to see it as default Vietnamese engine in f19 06:38:09 what was default in f18? 06:38:21 nothing now 06:38:27 ah, got it. okay 06:39:06 please drop me an email if you need any more information 06:39:09 I have to go out now 06:39:14 okay, thanks! 06:39:15 thanks. see you 06:42:00 dueno, so maybe we should add it in comps? 06:42:29 * tagoh_ updated relnotes 06:42:31 perhaps, but there is no vietnamese-support 06:42:52 in input-methods group I think? 06:43:22 aha, is it sufficient? 06:43:45 I think so 06:44:48 pravins: how about noto? 06:45:47 hmm it depends on qt ... 06:46:02 oh? 06:46:27 probably config (setup) 06:46:40 what is "it"? 06:47:09 ibus-bogo... 06:47:13 right, it is for config 06:47:15 aha 06:47:31 well, I'm not that surprised since I see that in mozc too ;) 06:47:37 so I think it would have to in vietnamese-support 06:47:43 tagoh_, hehe 06:47:52 well I was surprised :) 06:48:02 ah is it from google? 06:49:06 anyway seems good to mention in relnotes 06:50:31 okay already there 06:50:55 I can't find any entry for ibus-bogo in f19 comps 06:51:21 tagoh_: still review is going on 06:51:27 maybe first it need to be added under input-methods group 06:51:33 pravins: ah, okay 06:51:52 but tagoh_ it is must package for Fedora 19 06:52:00 will make sure, it will be in Fedora 19 06:52:20 hm 06:52:46 pravins: we may miss it in relnotes perhaps then 06:52:55 for beta at least 06:52:56 paragan, there isn't... 06:52:58 tagoh_: yeah 06:53:12 need to open a bug to update relnotes later 06:53:18 ohh 06:53:29 as we did for liberation last time 06:54:18 review is still underway? 06:54:29 okay, updated markup. 06:54:34 paragan: ^^ 06:54:54 yes just waiting if someone need to comment on it like replacing droidsans with noto 06:55:08 overall looks ok to me 06:55:14 I will approve it today 06:55:30 paragan: yeah, even me things we need some update in fontconfig file 06:55:40 but may be we can do it in later stage. 06:56:38 what's priority for noto so far? 06:57:09 i have kept it 66 for all 06:58:34 hmm, isn't it a LGC fonts? 06:58:54 tagoh_: LGC? 06:59:25 Latin-Greek-Cyrillic fonts 06:59:48 ok got it 06:59:50 thanks 07:00:02 tagoh_: yes, this package has LGC fonts as well 07:00:15 and Asian scripts as well 07:00:41 aha. what lang affects with it? 07:00:41 hmm might be LGC needs different priorities? 07:01:15 they have. low prio LGC is assigned to 61-64 07:01:29 tagoh_: google-noto has 21 subpackages and i have kept fontconf file separate for each one 07:01:43 aha 07:02:15 might be we can customize priorities, say for Devanagari 66 is safer and for LGC may be 63? 07:03:34 does 66 work? g is less than l though 07:04:20 i think yes 07:04:27 okay 07:04:39 any other suggestions for relnotes? 07:05:25 juhp: can you help to polish it before pushing it? 07:05:35 okay sure 07:05:44 thanks 07:07:38 if not, let's move on 07:08:36 #info #19: gnu-free-fonts issue for Indic (aalam) 07:08:36 #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/19 07:10:13 ah, I missed to update bugs for recipes okay... 07:10:52 will do after the meeting then 07:11:29 #topic Open Floor 07:11:37 so any other topics to discuss in this meeting? 07:15:02 if not, let's close the meeting shortly 07:15:24 tagoh_: i am checking for it 07:15:24 yes, no success 07:15:24 We have already done minus indic lang from gnu-free-serif conf file 07:15:24 may be same way we should do for other fonts as well 07:15:24 lohit does not have Lohit-Devanagari-Bold but gnu-free-sans has bold versions as well 07:15:42 tagoh_: sure will discuss it after meeting :) 07:16:16 aha. okay 07:17:46 anything else? 07:19:14 okay, thanks everyone for the meeting! please keep up your testing on test day event 07:19:26 #endmeeting