06:02:29 <tagoh_> #startmeeting i18n
06:02:29 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Mar 12 06:02:29 2014 UTC.  The chair is tagoh_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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06:02:30 <tagoh_> #meetingname i18n
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06:02:30 <tagoh_> #topic agenda and roll call
06:02:30 <tagoh_> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2014-03-12
06:02:54 <tagoh_> time for i18n meeting
06:02:58 <paragan> hi
06:03:11 <anish__> Hi
06:03:12 <fujiwarat> hi
06:03:18 <mfabian> Hi!
06:03:22 <epico> hi
06:03:23 <tagoh_> hi guys
06:04:11 <dueno> hi
06:04:32 <juhp> hi
06:05:11 <tagoh_> okay, let's get started then.
06:05:25 <tagoh_> #topic Upcoming schedule
06:05:26 <tagoh_> #info no earlier than 2014-04-01         Change Proposals Submission Deadline
06:05:26 <tagoh_> #info no earlier than August     Fedora 21 Final Release
06:06:09 <tagoh_> anything else we should follow up for schedule stuff?
06:09:03 <tagoh_> oh BTW doc schedule is open. docbeats wiki freeze for beta is set to 15th August at this moment.
06:09:49 <tagoh_> that might be changed against f21 schedule though. just fyi
06:11:13 <tagoh_> if not paritucularly, let's move on.
06:11:23 <pravins> hi
06:11:45 <tagoh_> #topic Outstanding topics
06:11:45 <tagoh_> #info #25: Bugs Corner (i18n@lists.fedoraproject.org)
06:11:45 <tagoh_> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/25
06:11:52 <tagoh_> any bugs we want to discuss today?
06:14:37 <skore> hi
06:15:31 <tagoh_> no?
06:17:43 <tagoh_> okay, let's move on then
06:17:49 <juhp> I think we need to tweak
06:17:57 <juhp> the IM bugs url
06:18:06 <tagoh_> aha
06:18:14 <juhp> appending ($|-)
06:18:19 <juhp> to avoid uimaj :)
06:18:33 <juhp> to the regexp hack
06:19:40 <tagoh_> anything missed in the list?
06:20:04 <juhp> ^ well don't need uimaj
06:20:36 <juhp> eg for https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?field0-0-0=component&bug_status=NEW&type0-0-0=regexp&value0-0-0=^(gcin%7cibus%7cimsettings%7cim-chooser%7ckinput%7cm17n%7cnabi%7cscim%7cuim%7canthy%7cmozc%7cfcitx)&product=Fedora
06:20:55 <juhp> (some java package I think)
06:21:04 <juhp> picked up by uim
06:21:08 <juhp> anyway
06:21:33 <tagoh_> ah got it
06:22:03 <juhp> anyway it is just two bugs...
06:23:15 <juhp> .bug 1070506
06:23:20 <zodbot> juhp: Bug 1070506 Google Chrome does not render Chinese/Japanese kanji characters in tab title after google-droid-sans-fonts is installed - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1070506
06:23:24 <juhp> just noticed this one
06:24:03 <juhp> ah tagoh_ already commented
06:24:27 <juhp> chrome i18n is weak...
06:25:02 <tagoh_> yep
06:25:34 <tagoh_> noticed that last week.
06:26:26 <juhp> wonder if we should have a misc component bugs category too?
06:26:46 <juhp> hmm guess the regexp will be horrible
06:27:48 <tagoh_> well bugs list per releases may cover it
06:28:48 <tagoh_> okay fixed IM bugs list in the template
06:29:22 <tagoh_> please reload the agenda page and see better one then.
06:31:22 <juhp> thanks
06:32:03 <tagoh_> anything else?
06:34:34 <tagoh_> okay, move on
06:34:38 <tagoh_> #info #26: proposal: IM and xkb UI design improvements (petersen)
06:34:39 <tagoh_> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/26
06:37:13 <tagoh_> hm, well, we can skip this ticket atm. waiting for filing bugs for input mode menus.
06:37:20 <juhp> yes
06:37:23 <tagoh_> #topic Open Floor
06:37:36 <tagoh_> anything else we want to discuss/share in this meeting?
06:38:18 <pravins> tagoh_: i have made progress to change proposal
06:38:23 <pravins> added new packages
06:38:34 <tagoh_> pravins: sure
06:38:47 <pravins> will report bug against Anaconda and LibreOffice for change
06:38:54 <juhp> I see lohit-odia-fonts and lohit-gurmukhi-fonts in Rawhide :)
06:38:55 <tagoh_> okay
06:39:09 <tagoh_> cool
06:40:08 <tagoh_> those components are only affected on this change?
06:42:30 <juhp> pravins, can you update comps-f21.xml.in ?
06:42:41 <pravins> juhp: aha, good point. i forgot it
06:42:44 <pravins> thanks :)
06:42:58 <fujiwarat> ibus 1.5.6 is available. Any feedback is welcome about property panel. I may hide it in the next release.
06:43:07 <juhp> in testing?
06:43:13 <fujiwarat> yes
06:43:46 <mfabian> Is the property panel visible by default at the moment in ibus 1.5.6?
06:44:01 <fujiwarat> yes
06:46:53 <dueno> got a request to hide it: https://bitbucket.org/libkkc/libkkc/issue/7
06:48:57 <juhp> oh I thought floating panel was off by default
06:49:35 <mfabian> I just wanted to know what I need to do to test it. So I should just see it appearing after updating to 1.5.6. Nice.
06:50:14 <juhp> fujiwarat, I think better to hide by default yes
06:50:49 <juhp> fujiwarat, default only affects new users right?
06:51:01 <juhp> maybe even now
06:51:33 <juhp> mfabian, UI is in ibus-setup
06:51:50 <fujiwarat> The test purpose is whether the property panel is useful or not. The default is auto-hide.
06:53:13 <epico> for non-gnome?
06:53:24 <fujiwarat> yes
06:53:32 <epico> thx
06:54:29 <fujiwarat> The mode can be changed to the static position on ibus-setup.
06:55:34 <fujiwarat> Especially I'm thinking the problem is firefox does not send cursor location and auto-hide does not enable in firefox.
06:57:02 <juhp> hide in next release = disable by default ?
06:57:41 <fujiwarat> juhp: Yes, I'm thinking so.
06:57:43 <juhp> how about after updating?
06:58:04 <juhp> so in 1.5.5 autohide is default even for existing users?
06:58:48 <tagoh_> 1.5.6?
06:58:51 <fujiwarat> If you don't change the property, the default value is applied to the user settings.
06:59:21 <fujiwarat> 1.5.5 and 1.5.6 is auto-hide by default.
07:00:42 <juhp> right
07:01:05 <juhp> so if you upgrade to 1.5.7 you will remain with autohide?
07:02:01 <tagoh_> doesn't it also depend if one customize settings?
07:02:30 <fujiwarat> User settings are saved until they run gsettings reset.
07:02:58 <juhp> okay so if one doesn't change then it will follow system default I guess?
07:03:18 <fujiwarat> yes
07:03:22 <fujiwarat> right
07:03:30 <juhp> anyway just wonder from above if better to hide already for fedora
07:03:49 <fujiwarat> ok
07:03:59 <juhp> is it not better for people to opt into it perhaps
07:04:34 <juhp> though I should test the 1.5.6 build first perhaps
07:05:25 <fujiwarat> It's just a default setting.
07:05:45 <fujiwarat> ok
07:07:59 <tagoh_> okay, anything else?
07:11:54 <tagoh_> if not, let's close the meeting shortly
07:15:21 <tagoh_> alright, stop here then. thanks everyone for the meeting!
07:15:28 <tagoh_> #endmeeting