06:00:14 <pravins> #startmeeting i18n
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06:00:18 <pravins> #meetingname i18n
06:00:18 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'i18n'
06:00:21 <pravins> #topic agenda and roll call
06:00:25 <pravins> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2015-02-04
06:00:29 <paragan> hi
06:00:31 <fujiwarat> hi
06:00:41 <pravins> hi paragan fujiwarat :)
06:00:45 <epico> hi
06:00:50 <tagoh_> hi
06:01:09 <shilpa> hi
06:01:21 <anish_> Hi
06:01:32 <pravins> hi epico tagoh_ shilpa  anish_ :)
06:01:48 <pravins> i think Juhp will be not available today.
06:02:01 <pravins> #topic Upcoming schedule
06:02:01 <pravins> #info 2015-02-10  	Branch Fedora 22 from Rawhide
06:02:01 <pravins> #info 2015-02-24   Alpha Freeze
06:02:02 <pravins> #info 2015-02-24   Software String Freeze
06:02:02 <pravins> #info 2015-02-24   Change Checkpoint: Completion deadline (testable)
06:02:03 <pravins> #info 2015-02-24   Bodhi activation point
06:02:05 <pravins> #info 2015-03-10 	Alpha Release
06:02:22 <pravins> Thank you all for helping last Wednesday for cleaning up wiki.
06:03:05 <pravins> Alpha freeze just 3 weeks away.
06:03:50 <pravins> tagoh_: when do we need to start docs beat?
06:04:34 <pravins> they have schedule separately https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-22/f-22-devel-tasks.html
06:05:42 <tagoh_> pravins: usually we need to finish before beta
06:05:55 <pravins> that was wrong link, correct is https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-22/f-22-docs-tasks.html
06:06:35 <pravins> May be we can target it post Alpha freeze.
06:07:18 <tagoh_> no slips at this moment but that schedule seems not updated when it happened. so better finish off early
06:08:13 <pravins> tagoh_: sure. Lets create ticket and start tracking it from next meeting.
06:08:24 <tagoh_> okay.
06:08:33 <pravins> thank you tagoh_
06:08:53 <pravins> #info Tracking docs from next meeting.
06:08:59 <pravins> #topic Outstanding topic
06:09:03 <pravins> #info #36: gnome redesign plans for control-center Region and Languages (i18n@lists.fedoraproject.org)
06:09:03 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/36
06:09:11 <pravins> anish__:  any chance talking with whot?
06:09:27 <pravins> paragan: did you got chance to cleanup xkb layouts further?
06:10:02 <anish__> pravins, sorry could not sent an email but i will send it today itself
06:10:17 <paragan> pravins, sorry, am busy with many existing package cleanups/updates. will try to finish it this weekend
06:10:31 <pravins> anish__: great. should i add it to action item?
06:10:41 <pravins> paragan: sure. thanks.
06:10:43 <anish__> pravins, sure
06:11:18 <pravins> #action anish__ to talk with whot for blacklisting xkb layouts.
06:11:52 <pravins> #action paragan to cleanup xkb layout on wiki.
06:12:03 <pravins> #topic Outstanding task
06:12:03 <pravins> #info #42: Fedora 22 i18n test day (tagoh)
06:12:03 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/42
06:12:41 <pravins> tagoh_: can we plan any date now for test day?
06:13:17 <tagoh_> any changes we better wait for beta or so?
06:14:01 <tagoh_> otherwise we could tentatively set a date around pre-beta
06:14:14 <pravins> good point.
06:14:54 <pravins> in present scenario i hope most of our changes get added into Alpha.
06:15:08 <pravins> i think pre-beta looks good.
06:15:18 <pravins> 2015-04-14 	Beta Release
06:15:25 <pravins> it will give more chances for fixing bugs.
06:15:49 <pravins> I will write article to Fedora Magazine for inviting testers for i18n test day.
06:16:14 <pravins> though my one article pending on Fedora 21 already :(
06:17:12 <pravins> how do you feel to have using one Wed. meeting slot on improving and adding new test cases?
06:17:26 <tagoh_> still no portal so not sure which slots are available but anaconda team filed a ticket already it seems. so we could do
06:17:59 <tagoh_> pravins: sure if that helps.
06:18:51 <tagoh_> just a suggestion for date, how about 12th or r19th March?
06:19:01 <pravins> lets try and see how it goes. We can invite QE as well.
06:19:56 <paragan> good to have test day either just before beta to after beta release
06:20:32 <pravins> paragan: good point.
06:20:49 <pravins> tagoh_: Beta freeze happening on  "2015-03-31" So may be just after that?
06:22:46 <tagoh_> assuming the schedule will slip so that may works though, in theory better before freeze so that we could have a chance to fix something for beta...
06:23:35 <pravins> agree.
06:23:50 <pravins> tagoh_: 19th march looks good.
06:24:02 <paragan> 19th sounds good then
06:24:28 <pravins> #agreed 19th march date for i18n test day.
06:24:36 <pravins> lets move on
06:24:45 <pravins> #topic New topics
06:24:45 <pravins> #info #40: Fedora 22 planning (pravins)
06:24:45 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/40
06:24:53 <pravins> All our changes are in Accepted state now.,
06:25:12 <pravins> Alpha freeze is just 3 weeks away, so its now time to make sure all changes get 100% complete for it.
06:25:48 <pravins> For Glibc_Unicode_7 change, i had discussion with siddhesh. He is bit busy with few stuff presently. So he mostly work on it next to next week.
06:25:56 <pravins> same time also discussing on libc-alpha same.
06:26:46 <pravins> anish__: paragan any issues with your proposed changes for completing before Alpha release?
06:27:35 <pravins> Lohit2_Odia_Telug i did upstream release of Odia last week, Presently working with shilpa on Telugu. Hoping it will get complete in couple of weeks.
06:28:24 <pravins> lets move on..
06:28:25 <pravins> #info #41: Need to check whether any F22 proposed change affect i18n (pravins)
06:28:25 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/41
06:28:25 <pravins> We gone through most of the changes proposed for F22 already.
06:28:29 <pravins> Final list is available AT
06:28:32 <pravins> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:ChangeAcceptedF22
06:28:38 <pravins> At least i did not found any particular which we should track. So if there is nothing i think we can close this ticket today.
06:28:57 <paragan> pravins, I have proposed dnf-langpacks for cli commands only which is 100% complete as of now
06:29:07 <pravins> paragan: thats great !!
06:29:37 <paragan> enhancements to it like automatic pickup of langpacks on package updates is pending to dnf api implementation by dnf developers
06:29:38 <pravins> #info Changes/DnfLangpacksPlugin feature is 100% complete.
06:29:42 <paragan> which may take time
06:29:47 <pravins> sure.
06:29:59 <anish__> pravins, not at moment need to write documentation as suggested by upstream
06:30:05 <pravins> thank you for an update paragan :)
06:30:19 <pravins> anish__: sure.
06:32:08 * pravins closed #https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/41
06:32:25 <pravins> lets move to new topic
06:32:25 <pravins> #info #43: I18n FAD in 2015 (pravins)
06:32:25 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/43
06:32:45 <pravins> Basically its gathering of Fedora contributors for completing specific activity. OSAS team support for budget. Will need approval from OSAS and FPL.
06:33:01 <pravins> Two FAD happened recently
06:33:01 <pravins> 1. Ambassadors : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD:PhnomPenh_2014
06:33:20 <pravins> 2. Design :  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_DesignTeam_2014
06:34:01 <anish__> would be nice if we can have i18n FAD
06:35:23 <pravins> I think we can have this in Japan, since most of the members are there already.
06:35:33 <pravins> Also we can use Red Hat facility there.
06:36:30 <pravins> it is in very rough stage presently. lets have further discussion on same and discuss more in next meeting.
06:37:56 <pravins> 3 important things.
06:37:59 <pravins> 1. Should we have it.
06:38:08 <pravins> 2. Deciding Date and Venue
06:38:15 <pravins> 3. Getting approval for budget
06:38:26 <pravins> lets think and discuss on this in next meeting.
06:38:43 <pravins> almost done with discussing with all topics.
06:38:47 <pravins> #topic Open Floor
06:39:01 <anish__> if we want to do it we need to do it asap
06:39:22 <anish__> because if we plan to do it in April
06:39:28 <anish__> we dont have that time in our hand
06:40:00 <anish__> getting approvals take bit of time (in my personal experience)
06:40:37 <pravins> anish__: agree.
06:40:47 <anish__> probably we should sent our proposal to OSAS and FPL
06:41:24 <pravins> anish__: lets discuss further in next meeting.
06:41:34 <anish__> okay thanks
06:42:08 <pravins> any other topic for day including bug?
06:44:10 <pravins> lets close meeting in couple of minute.
06:45:18 <pravins> thank you all for nice meeting.
06:45:21 <pravins> #endmeeting