05:33:03 <paragan> #startmeeting i18n
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05:33:03 <paragan> #meetingname i18n
05:33:03 <paragan> #topic agenda and roll call
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05:33:58 <priyam_> hi
05:34:11 <tagoh> hi
05:34:55 <juhp[m]> hi
05:35:00 <paragan> hi
05:35:24 <suanand> hello
05:35:39 <paragan> #chair priyam_ tagoh juhp[m] suanand
05:35:39 <zodbot> Current chairs: juhp[m] paragan priyam_ suanand tagoh
05:35:48 <pwu> hi
05:35:53 <paragan> #chair pwu
05:35:53 <zodbot> Current chairs: juhp[m] paragan priyam_ pwu suanand tagoh
05:35:58 <paragan> lets start this meeting
05:36:13 <paragan> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2022-03-07
05:36:25 <paragan> #topic Upcoming schedule
05:36:25 <paragan> #info 2022-03-15 Beta Release (Early Target)
05:36:25 <paragan> #info 2022-03-29 Retire FTI packages in NEW state
05:36:54 <paragan> Next week is supposed to be Beta release early target
05:37:10 <paragan> but I don't see yet any Beta candidate composes happened
05:37:36 <paragan> Go/No-Go meeting is happening on 10th March
05:38:14 <paragan> and here is list of blocker bugs https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/36/beta/buglist
05:38:53 <paragan> Firefox package is still FTBFS since F36 mass-rebuild happened
05:39:22 <paragan> one good thing is Gnome megaupdate has come to F36 compose now
05:40:00 <juhp[m]> Yes
05:41:00 <paragan> anything more to discuss here?
05:42:08 <juhp[m]> Maybe some of the packages are already 42 RC? not sure
05:42:29 <paragan> yes
05:42:53 <juhp[m]> or maybe not - I see the Beta rebase bug was renamed
05:43:13 <juhp[m]> certainly confused me
05:44:18 <paragan> hm okay
05:44:41 <paragan> need to check but I can see update has been pushed already
05:46:03 <paragan> let's move to next topic
05:46:13 <paragan> #topic Issues
05:46:21 <paragan> #info #144: Fedora 34 Bug triaging  (pnemade)
05:46:21 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/144
05:46:40 <paragan> This is just reminder ticket that we have some F34 bugs to work on
05:46:51 <paragan> Today's bug count is 46
05:47:55 <paragan> Let's keep triaging these bugs.
05:49:26 <juhp[m]> +1
05:50:09 <paragan> moving to next ticket
05:50:10 <tagoh> sure. I did a bit last week. continuing to triage a bit more.
05:50:35 <paragan> Thanks
05:50:37 <paragan> #info #148: use Noto font for Ethiopian Amharic script (tagoh)
05:50:37 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/148
05:50:57 <paragan> Any update here?
05:51:33 <tagoh> all the required work should be done. good to test.
05:51:52 <paragan> Can this ticket be closed?
05:52:36 <tagoh> We can.
05:52:49 <tagoh> the original reporter commented it works.
05:52:50 <paragan> Thanks
05:52:55 <paragan> cool
05:52:56 <juhp[m]> Right, we don't have any specific testcase for the Test Day I guess
05:53:17 <juhp[m]> I see the new font in my F36 install
05:53:46 <paragan> good
05:54:46 <paragan> #info #149: create Matrix room for Fedora i18n (petersen)
05:54:46 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/149
05:54:51 <paragan> Any update here?
05:55:48 <paragan> Looks like this is already done
05:55:51 <juhp[m]> Yes the bridge is done and I left #fedora-i18n
05:56:39 <paragan> Good
05:56:51 <paragan> hopefully other members will also join there :)
05:57:29 <paragan> Ok let's move to next ticket
05:57:58 <juhp[m]> The bridge appeared just at the end of last week - so just a couple of days old
05:57:59 <paragan> #info #151: F36 Change: DefaultToNotoFonts (tagoh)
05:57:59 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/151
05:58:11 <paragan> Any issues remaining here?
05:58:31 <paragan> (other than documentation)
05:59:08 <juhp[m]> Shall we not ask Libreoffice about dejavu vs Noto?
06:00:49 <paragan> tagoh, can you check on this?
06:01:04 <tagoh> LibreOffice has own font config I think. they should use Liberation but not DejaVu.
06:02:55 <juhp[m]> tagoh: can you check the requires of libreoffice-core?
06:03:05 <tagoh> Sure
06:03:24 <juhp[m]> It is pulling in dejavu-fonts
06:04:54 <juhp[m]> and liberation-fonts yes
06:05:30 <juhp[m]> I think best to reach out to Caolan
06:05:33 <tagoh> should we ask for updating?
06:05:40 <juhp[m]> If possible
06:06:06 <juhp[m]> It seems desirable to me
06:06:24 <tagoh> Okay. let me open a ticket on bugzilla
06:06:38 <juhp[m]> Thank you!
06:08:35 <paragan> thanks
06:08:38 <paragan> moving to next ticket
06:08:46 <juhp[m]> I wonder if there was anything on fonts from the Gnome test day?
06:08:51 <juhp[m]> week
06:09:04 <juhp[m]> Sure
06:10:07 <paragan> #info #152: F36 Change: Hunspell_dictionary_dir_change (pnemade)
06:10:08 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/152
06:10:57 <paragan> Any issues remaining here?
06:11:04 <paragan> Vishal is supposed to work on fixing all hunspell-* packages to update directory path
06:11:10 <paragan> I am not sure how much he has progressed
06:11:18 <paragan> but this should not be problem here
06:11:23 <paragan> so in case we miss any hunspell-* packages to be fixed we will fix them in F37
06:12:11 <juhp[m]> @juhp seems not
06:12:50 <juhp[m]> I don't think he promised all but some at least yes afaik :)
06:13:58 <juhp[m]> We should test the hunspell change carefully this week
06:14:25 <paragan> Ok
06:15:53 <juhp[m]> I see one hunspell bug report about duplicate listing perhaps
06:15:57 <paragan> moving to next ticket
06:16:23 <juhp[m]> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2060751
06:19:07 <paragan> checking
06:20:53 <juhp[m]> Well I don't think it is a blocker, but maybe something we should look at likely
06:21:35 <juhp[m]> I guess this is a kind of a known issue currently, but maybe should be patched out
06:21:44 <paragan> Ok will check more later
06:21:58 <juhp[m]> Thanks
06:22:18 <paragan> moving to next ticket
06:22:42 <paragan> #info #153: F36 Change: MalayalamDefaultFontsUpdate (pnemade)
06:22:42 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/153
06:22:49 <paragan> There is only release notes documentation remaining here.
06:23:06 <paragan> anyone got anything to discuss for this ticket?
06:24:04 <paragan> if nothing let's move to next ticket
06:24:21 <paragan> #info #154: F36 Change: Ibus_table_cangjie_default_for_zh_hk (mfabian)
06:24:21 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/154
06:25:24 <juhp[m]> We will test it this week hopefully
06:25:31 <paragan> Any Change implementation remaining here?
06:26:18 <juhp[m]> Not that I know - Mike summarized the status quo I think - if we find somethink this week we can follow up
06:26:28 <paragan> Sure
06:26:30 <paragan> thanks
06:26:39 <juhp[m]> Since we updated the testcases specifically
06:27:35 <paragan> #info #155: Fedora 36 i18n test day/week (pnemade)
06:27:35 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/155
06:27:46 <paragan> This is a reminder that we are going to have i18n test week next week.
06:27:54 <paragan> Fedora QE people helped us by publishing https://fedoramagazine.org/contribute-at-the-fedora-i18n-and-gnome-42-test-weeks/
06:28:28 <juhp[m]> You mean this week?
06:29:18 <paragan> ah sorry
06:29:21 <paragan> yeah this week
06:29:55 <paragan> #info we are having Fedora i18n test week this week https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2022-03-08_I18N_Test_Day
06:30:01 <juhp[m]> Starting tomorrow officially I believe
06:30:07 <paragan> yes
06:30:40 <juhp[m]> I think mfabian did an initial run on Thu
06:31:36 <paragan> good
06:32:48 <paragan> moving to next ticket
06:32:55 <paragan> #info #157: KDE spin missing ibus IMEs and imsettings (petersen)
06:32:56 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/157
06:34:37 <paragan> has there any discussion around this?
06:34:43 <juhp[m]> Ah this is fixed except for Kinoite
06:35:24 <juhp[m]> I think fujiwara pushed a fix to ibus for the applet to work better in KDE too
06:36:04 <paragan> good
06:36:21 <juhp[m]> Maybe we can leave it open a little longer - hope some people test this week too
06:36:50 <paragan> Sure thank you for looking into this issue juhp[m]
06:36:55 <juhp[m]> I will try to do a PR for Kinoite: I think it is missing imsetings-systemd iirc
06:37:04 <juhp[m]> imsettings
06:37:57 <paragan> Ok
06:38:08 <paragan> moving to next ticket
06:38:51 <paragan> #info #158: State of i18n and l10n in Workstation (petersen)
06:38:51 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/158
06:40:32 <paragan> I think if team members have any suggestions they can add here
06:40:36 <juhp[m]> Well yea still planning to prepare for this - hopefully later this month
06:40:39 <paragan> anything to discuss here?
06:40:41 <juhp[m]> Yes please
06:41:31 <paragan> sure
06:41:57 <paragan> moving to next ticket
06:42:07 <paragan> #info #159: use weak deps to install ibus immodules etc (petersen)
06:42:07 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/159
06:43:28 <juhp[m]> Ah ya I received a complaint that hexchat "doesn't support emoji" input - because ibus-gtk2 is not installed by default
06:44:20 <paragan> Ok
06:44:27 <juhp[m]> I think it would be good if gtk2 has a rich dep on ibus-gtk2 and well similar for gtk3 probably though ibus-gtk3 is installed by default
06:44:35 <juhp[m]> similarly
06:45:02 <juhp[m]> (for workstation)
06:45:16 <juhp[m]> Any comments?
06:45:26 <juhp[m]> Anyway this ticket is to track that
06:45:37 <paragan> yeah looks good to implement
06:45:58 <juhp[m]> Other question is should it be on the ibus or gtk side?
06:46:48 <paragan> hmm
06:46:57 <paragan> let's think on it more
06:48:37 <paragan> moving to last ticket
06:48:38 <paragan> #info #160: Fix font packages getting retired this March (tagoh)
06:48:38 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/160
06:49:23 <paragan> I think this is fixed now.
06:49:30 <paragan> tagoh, can you confirm?
06:50:01 <tagoh> Thanks for filing a ticket. yes, all fonts packages has been fixed and dropped from the list too.
06:50:13 <juhp[m]> tagoh++
06:50:14 <paragan> cool
06:50:16 <juhp[m]> Wow thanks!
06:50:17 <paragan> tagoh++
06:50:50 <paragan> Thanks
06:50:58 <paragan> moving to next topic
06:51:07 <paragan> #topic Open Floor
06:51:13 <paragan> anything to discuss here?
06:53:05 <paragan> I suppose nothing more to discuss
06:53:15 <paragan> Thank you all for being with for such long meeting
06:53:37 <paragan> #endmeeting