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05:32:00 <paragan> #topic agenda and roll call
05:32:06 <paragan> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2022-09-05
05:32:09 <priyam_> hi
05:32:13 <suanand> hello
05:32:16 <pwu> hi
05:33:16 <SudipShil[m]> hi
05:33:24 <JensPetersen[m]> hi
05:33:26 <paragan> Hi all
05:33:42 <paragan> #chair priyam_ suanand pwu SudipShil[m] JensPetersen[m]
05:33:42 <zodbot> Current chairs: JensPetersen[m] SudipShil[m] paragan priyam_ pwu suanand
05:34:26 <paragan> Let's start this meeting
05:34:28 <paragan> #topic Upcoming schedule
05:34:33 <mfabian[m]> Hi👋
05:34:38 <paragan> #info Tue 2022-09-13 Beta Release (Early Target)
05:35:05 <paragan> Fedora 37 development is under Beta Freeze
05:35:39 <paragan> you can also check current blocking bugs list https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/37/beta/buglist
05:36:20 <JensPetersen[m]> I see an RC is out finally
05:36:30 <paragan> there are 2 Accepted Freeze bugs there related to Keyboard layout
05:36:50 <JensPetersen[m]> 37_Beta-1.4
05:36:54 <paragan> yes https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/37_Beta-1.4/
05:36:56 <JensPetersen[m]> oh
05:38:18 <JensPetersen[m]> https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/37/beta/buglist
05:38:38 <paragan> Yes I gave the link above already
05:39:16 <paragan> also we are going to have Fedora i18n testweek from tomorrow. Let's discuss about this in its own ticket
05:40:21 <paragan> same time there is Gnome 43 Final test week happening https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/140
05:40:24 <JensPetersen[m]> sorry
05:40:49 <paragan> anything else to discuss here?
05:42:28 <paragan> if nothing then let's move
05:43:36 <paragan> #topic Issues
05:43:37 <paragan> #info #163: create a wiki page table of Emoji input support across desktop/toolkits (petersen)
05:43:37 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/163
05:43:49 <JensPetersen[m]> I created https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Emoji_input
05:44:15 <JensPetersen[m]> but it needs more work still - just the intial basic content yet
05:44:29 <JensPetersen[m]> The test week will probably help too
05:45:08 <paragan> Sure
05:45:14 <paragan> Thank you for this update
05:45:31 <JensPetersen[m]> (I only just edited my last comment there)
05:45:38 <JensPetersen[m]> because the wiki wasn't working 30min ago...
05:45:45 <paragan> Okay
05:46:48 <JensPetersen[m]> So let's leave it open until it is more complete
05:47:00 <paragan> nod
05:47:05 <paragan> moving to next issue
05:47:07 <JensPetersen[m]> Comment, corrections, welcome of course
05:47:31 <paragan> #info #168: Fedora 35 Bug triaging (pnemade)
05:47:31 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/168
05:48:12 <paragan> This issue is to remind you that there are some Fedora 35 bugs reported which needs triaging
05:48:34 <paragan> do check these bugs and see if you can fix it in F35 or above
05:50:14 <JensPetersen[m]> or move to later release
05:50:21 <paragan> anything to discuss here?
05:50:59 <paragan> I guess nothing to discuss
05:51:02 <paragan> #info #169: Fedora 37 i18n test day/week (pnemade)
05:51:02 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/169
05:51:24 <paragan> We are having our Fedora 37 i18n test week from tomorrow
05:51:36 <paragan> #info Test day page => https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2022-09-06_I18N_Test_Day
05:51:41 <paragan> #info Results page => http://testdays.fedorainfracloud.org/events/139
05:52:01 <paragan> all please participate and provide your testing result in results page
05:53:01 <JensPetersen[m]> Yes
05:53:44 <JensPetersen[m]> I think it's even possible to start today if you wish
05:54:25 <paragan> nod
05:55:10 <priyam_> yes..i started it :)
05:55:29 <paragan> cool
05:55:52 <paragan> moving to next issue
05:56:01 <paragan> #info #170: F37 Change: Gettext Runtime Subpackage (suanand)
05:56:01 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/170
05:56:28 <paragan> how is this Change implementation gone? any issues remaining to be fixed?
05:57:02 <JensPetersen[m]> None that I am aware off - we got a little pushback on the f36 backport but I think it should be okay later
05:57:26 <JensPetersen[m]> Ah we may add Conflicts to the new subpackages
05:58:02 <paragan> Oh Okay
05:58:23 <paragan> thanks
05:58:30 <JensPetersen[m]> Dunno when we should close the Change tickets?
05:58:53 <paragan> we can't till we see its release notes written
05:58:59 <JensPetersen[m]> Do we track the relnotes there?
05:59:10 <JensPetersen[m]> okay
05:59:21 <JensPetersen[m]> We can write some text
05:59:33 <paragan> yes I stopped creating separate ticket as we already have individual Change issues
06:00:00 <paragan> moving to next issue
06:00:03 <paragan> #info #171: F37 Change: Firefox Langpacks Subpackage (petersen)
06:00:03 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/171
06:00:31 <JensPetersen[m]> I will make some relnotes if I can find out where/what
06:00:41 <paragan> any update on this Change implementation?
06:01:00 <JensPetersen[m]> (well what is fine:)
06:01:17 <JensPetersen[m]> It is done as we said last time
06:01:30 <JensPetersen[m]> Should I be updating?  Okay
06:01:44 <paragan> Ok then we will wait for relnotes for this Change
06:01:50 <paragan> moving to next issue
06:02:02 <paragan> #info #172: F37 Change: IBus 1.5.27 (fujiwara)
06:02:02 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/172
06:02:39 <paragan> I think this Change implementation is also completed. Has there been any issues remaining?
06:03:48 <paragan> I guess nothing remaining here except relnotes
06:04:29 <paragan> moving to next issue
06:04:37 <paragan> #info #173: F37 Change: ibus-libpinyin 1.13 (pwu)
06:04:37 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/173
06:05:49 <paragan> I suppose this is also completed and remaining now is release notes
06:06:14 <pwu> right
06:06:23 <paragan> Thanks for confirming
06:07:23 <paragan> moving to next topic
06:07:28 <paragan> #topic Open Floor
06:07:32 <paragan> anything to discuss here?
06:08:23 <mfabian[m]> I noticed that the Debian version of hunspell-bn has links from bn_BD.dic -> bn_IN.dic but our Fedora version has not.
06:08:31 <mfabian[m]> Maybe these links should be added?
06:09:05 <mfabian[m]> Our bn_IN.dic is more than twice the size than the Debian one, I guess our version is newer but the version numbers are confusing.
06:09:25 <JensPetersen[m]> Sudip Shil: ^
06:10:35 <paragan> I am sure there is difference between both the dic
06:11:15 <mfabian[m]> You mean between bn_IN and bn_BD?
06:11:20 <paragan> yes
06:11:39 <mfabian[m]> On Fedora we have only bn_IN:
06:11:42 <mfabian[m]> $ ls /usr/share/hunspell/bn_*
06:11:42 <mfabian[m]> /usr/share/hunspell/bn_IN.aff  /usr/share/hunspell/bn_IN.dic
06:11:44 <paragan> but I can't say what is that now
06:12:05 <mfabian[m]> It is the same on Debian but they have these symlinks.
06:12:07 <paragan> we need to find if there is any upstream project that hosts bn_BD dictionary file
06:12:17 <JensPetersen[m]> Sounds good to me
06:12:31 <JensPetersen[m]> add syminks
06:13:41 <paragan> I think we were having symlinks but sometime back when Anish updated it. might be he had removed it. Need to check git history
06:13:46 <SudipShil[m]> There are no such big difference in bn_IN and bn_BD.
06:13:46 <SudipShil[m]> Both has same alphabets but the difference is in their accent, pronunciation and sentences they make.
06:13:58 <mfabian[m]> $ ls -l usr/share/hunspell/
06:13:58 <mfabian[m]> total 2540
06:13:58 <mfabian[m]> -rw-r--r--. 1 mfabian mfabian     195 Sep  5 08:13 bn_BD.aff
06:13:58 <mfabian[m]> -rw-r--r--. 1 mfabian mfabian 2596038 Sep  5 08:13 bn_BD.dic
06:13:58 <mfabian[m]> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 mfabian mfabian       9 Sep  5 08:13 bn_IN.aff -> bn_BD.aff
06:13:59 <mfabian[m]> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 mfabian mfabian       9 Sep  5 08:13 bn_IN.dic -> bn_BD.dic
06:14:02 <mfabian[m]> That is on Debian sid
06:14:12 <JensPetersen[m]> Can you open a PR? :)
06:14:29 <mfabian[m]> Ours is much bigger:
06:14:31 <mfabian[m]> $ ls -l /usr/share/hunspell/bn_IN.*
06:14:32 <mfabian[m]> -rw-r--r--. 1 root root    2217 Feb  5  2014 /usr/share/hunspell/bn_IN.aff
06:14:32 <mfabian[m]> -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 7198285 Feb  4  2014 /usr/share/hunspell/bn_IN.dic
06:14:38 <JensPetersen[m]> wow
06:15:18 <mfabian[m]> Bigger does not necessarily mean better, but I guess ours is probably newer, maybe somebody should check
06:15:29 <paragan> Anish made the changes
06:16:46 <paragan> So yes someone open a PR and we will have it using symlink
06:18:14 <paragan> anything more to discuss here?
06:18:16 <mfabian[m]> I can make a pull request to add the symlinks
06:19:30 <paragan> thanks
06:20:04 <paragan> Let's stop here.
06:20:15 <paragan> Thank you all who joined this meeting
06:20:26 <paragan> #endmeeting