05:31:59 #startmeeting i18n 05:31:59 Meeting started Mon Sep 5 05:31:59 2022 UTC. 05:31:59 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 05:31:59 The chair is paragan. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 05:31:59 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 05:31:59 The meeting name has been set to 'i18n' 05:31:59 #meetingname i18n 05:31:59 The meeting name has been set to 'i18n' 05:32:00 #topic agenda and roll call 05:32:06 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2022-09-05 05:32:09 hi 05:32:13 hello 05:32:16 hi 05:33:16 hi 05:33:24 hi 05:33:26 Hi all 05:33:42 #chair priyam_ suanand pwu SudipShil[m] JensPetersen[m] 05:33:42 Current chairs: JensPetersen[m] SudipShil[m] paragan priyam_ pwu suanand 05:34:26 Let's start this meeting 05:34:28 #topic Upcoming schedule 05:34:33 Hi👋 05:34:38 #info Tue 2022-09-13 Beta Release (Early Target) 05:35:05 Fedora 37 development is under Beta Freeze 05:35:39 you can also check current blocking bugs list https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/37/beta/buglist 05:36:20 I see an RC is out finally 05:36:30 there are 2 Accepted Freeze bugs there related to Keyboard layout 05:36:50 37_Beta-1.4 05:36:54 yes https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/37_Beta-1.4/ 05:36:56 oh 05:38:18 https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/37/beta/buglist 05:38:38 Yes I gave the link above already 05:39:16 also we are going to have Fedora i18n testweek from tomorrow. Let's discuss about this in its own ticket 05:40:21 same time there is Gnome 43 Final test week happening https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/140 05:40:24 sorry 05:40:49 anything else to discuss here? 05:42:28 if nothing then let's move 05:43:36 #topic Issues 05:43:37 #info #163: create a wiki page table of Emoji input support across desktop/toolkits (petersen) 05:43:37 #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/163 05:43:49 I created https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Emoji_input 05:44:15 but it needs more work still - just the intial basic content yet 05:44:29 The test week will probably help too 05:45:08 Sure 05:45:14 Thank you for this update 05:45:31 (I only just edited my last comment there) 05:45:38 because the wiki wasn't working 30min ago... 05:45:45 Okay 05:46:48 So let's leave it open until it is more complete 05:47:00 nod 05:47:05 moving to next issue 05:47:07 Comment, corrections, welcome of course 05:47:31 #info #168: Fedora 35 Bug triaging (pnemade) 05:47:31 #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/168 05:48:12 This issue is to remind you that there are some Fedora 35 bugs reported which needs triaging 05:48:34 do check these bugs and see if you can fix it in F35 or above 05:50:14 or move to later release 05:50:21 anything to discuss here? 05:50:59 I guess nothing to discuss 05:51:02 #info #169: Fedora 37 i18n test day/week (pnemade) 05:51:02 #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/169 05:51:24 We are having our Fedora 37 i18n test week from tomorrow 05:51:36 #info Test day page => https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2022-09-06_I18N_Test_Day 05:51:41 #info Results page => http://testdays.fedorainfracloud.org/events/139 05:52:01 all please participate and provide your testing result in results page 05:53:01 Yes 05:53:44 I think it's even possible to start today if you wish 05:54:25 nod 05:55:10 yes..i started it :) 05:55:29 cool 05:55:52 moving to next issue 05:56:01 #info #170: F37 Change: Gettext Runtime Subpackage (suanand) 05:56:01 #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/170 05:56:28 how is this Change implementation gone? any issues remaining to be fixed? 05:57:02 None that I am aware off - we got a little pushback on the f36 backport but I think it should be okay later 05:57:26 Ah we may add Conflicts to the new subpackages 05:58:02 Oh Okay 05:58:23 thanks 05:58:30 Dunno when we should close the Change tickets? 05:58:53 we can't till we see its release notes written 05:58:59 Do we track the relnotes there? 05:59:10 okay 05:59:21 We can write some text 05:59:33 yes I stopped creating separate ticket as we already have individual Change issues 06:00:00 moving to next issue 06:00:03 #info #171: F37 Change: Firefox Langpacks Subpackage (petersen) 06:00:03 #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/171 06:00:31 I will make some relnotes if I can find out where/what 06:00:41 any update on this Change implementation? 06:01:00 (well what is fine:) 06:01:17 It is done as we said last time 06:01:30 Should I be updating? Okay 06:01:44 Ok then we will wait for relnotes for this Change 06:01:50 moving to next issue 06:02:02 #info #172: F37 Change: IBus 1.5.27 (fujiwara) 06:02:02 #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/172 06:02:39 I think this Change implementation is also completed. Has there been any issues remaining? 06:03:48 I guess nothing remaining here except relnotes 06:04:29 moving to next issue 06:04:37 #info #173: F37 Change: ibus-libpinyin 1.13 (pwu) 06:04:37 #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/173 06:05:49 I suppose this is also completed and remaining now is release notes 06:06:14 right 06:06:23 Thanks for confirming 06:07:23 moving to next topic 06:07:28 #topic Open Floor 06:07:32 anything to discuss here? 06:08:23 I noticed that the Debian version of hunspell-bn has links from bn_BD.dic -> bn_IN.dic but our Fedora version has not. 06:08:31 Maybe these links should be added? 06:09:05 Our bn_IN.dic is more than twice the size than the Debian one, I guess our version is newer but the version numbers are confusing. 06:09:25 Sudip Shil: ^ 06:10:35 I am sure there is difference between both the dic 06:11:15 You mean between bn_IN and bn_BD? 06:11:20 yes 06:11:39 On Fedora we have only bn_IN: 06:11:42 $ ls /usr/share/hunspell/bn_* 06:11:42 /usr/share/hunspell/bn_IN.aff /usr/share/hunspell/bn_IN.dic 06:11:44 but I can't say what is that now 06:12:05 It is the same on Debian but they have these symlinks. 06:12:07 we need to find if there is any upstream project that hosts bn_BD dictionary file 06:12:17 Sounds good to me 06:12:31 add syminks 06:13:41 I think we were having symlinks but sometime back when Anish updated it. might be he had removed it. Need to check git history 06:13:46 There are no such big difference in bn_IN and bn_BD. 06:13:46 Both has same alphabets but the difference is in their accent, pronunciation and sentences they make. 06:13:58 $ ls -l usr/share/hunspell/ 06:13:58 total 2540 06:13:58 -rw-r--r--. 1 mfabian mfabian 195 Sep 5 08:13 bn_BD.aff 06:13:58 -rw-r--r--. 1 mfabian mfabian 2596038 Sep 5 08:13 bn_BD.dic 06:13:58 lrwxrwxrwx. 1 mfabian mfabian 9 Sep 5 08:13 bn_IN.aff -> bn_BD.aff 06:13:59 lrwxrwxrwx. 1 mfabian mfabian 9 Sep 5 08:13 bn_IN.dic -> bn_BD.dic 06:14:02 That is on Debian sid 06:14:12 Can you open a PR? :) 06:14:29 Ours is much bigger: 06:14:31 $ ls -l /usr/share/hunspell/bn_IN.* 06:14:32 -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 2217 Feb 5 2014 /usr/share/hunspell/bn_IN.aff 06:14:32 -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 7198285 Feb 4 2014 /usr/share/hunspell/bn_IN.dic 06:14:38 wow 06:15:18 Bigger does not necessarily mean better, but I guess ours is probably newer, maybe somebody should check 06:15:29 Anish made the changes 06:16:46 So yes someone open a PR and we will have it using symlink 06:18:14 anything more to discuss here? 06:18:16 I can make a pull request to add the symlinks 06:19:30 thanks 06:20:04 Let's stop here. 06:20:15 Thank you all who joined this meeting 06:20:26 #endmeeting