08:00:11 <suanand> #startmeeting i18n
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08:00:11 <suanand> #meetingname i18n
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08:00:11 <suanand> #topic agenda and roll call
08:00:11 <suanand> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2023-04-03
08:00:21 <mfabian[m]> ☺
08:00:27 <tagoh[m]> Hi
08:00:44 <SudipShil[m]> Hi
08:00:51 <pwu> hi
08:00:53 <twinkle> Hi
08:01:14 <suanand> #chair mfabian tagoh SudipShil pwu twinkle
08:01:14 <zodbot> Current chairs: SudipShil mfabian pwu suanand tagoh twinkle
08:01:19 <paragan> Hi
08:01:27 <suanand> #chair paragan
08:01:27 <zodbot> Current chairs: SudipShil mfabian paragan pwu suanand tagoh twinkle
08:01:40 <suanand> welcome to today's meeting.
08:01:49 <suanand> #topic agenda
08:01:49 <suanand> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N
08:01:49 <JensPetersen[m]> hello
08:01:50 <suanand> #info -- 1. Upcoming schedule --
08:01:50 <suanand> #info -- 2. Issues --
08:01:50 <suanand> #info -- 3. Open floor --
08:02:18 <suanand> #chair JensPetersen fujiwara
08:02:18 <zodbot> Current chairs: JensPetersen SudipShil fujiwara mfabian paragan pwu suanand tagoh twinkle
08:02:30 <suanand> #topic Upcoming schedule
08:02:30 <suanand> #info Tue 2023-02-21 Bodhi updates-testing activation point
08:02:30 <suanand> #info Tue 2023-02-21 Change Checkpoint: 100% Code Complete Deadline
08:02:31 <suanand> #info Tue 2023-02-21 Beta Freeze (starts at 1400 UTC)
08:02:31 <suanand> #info Tue 2023-03-14 Current Beta Target date
08:02:31 <suanand> #info Tue 2023-04-04 Final Freeze (starts at 1400 UTC)
08:02:33 <suanand> #info Tue 2023-04-18 Current Final Target date
08:02:37 <suanand> So, f38 final freeze starts tomorrow.
08:02:55 <suanand> anyone tried f38 beta?
08:03:26 <suanand> I guess everyone in test week :)
08:03:41 <JensPetersen[m]> I have tried some recent nightlies - Beta is already somewhat out of date : )
08:03:52 <suanand> aha cool
08:04:01 <suanand> let's look at issues
08:04:07 <suanand> #topic Issues
08:04:14 <JensPetersen[m]> dl-fedora 38 ...
08:04:29 <suanand> #info #178:  Fedora 38 i18n test day/week (pnemade)
08:04:29 <suanand> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/178
08:04:44 <suanand> JensPetersen: nice!
08:04:52 <suanand> paragan: thank you for making the summary available.
08:04:52 <suanand> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2023-03-07_I18N_Test_Day#Fedora_38_Test_Day_Report
08:05:00 <suanand> paragan: anything you want to highlight?
08:05:21 <paragan> nothing specific
08:05:47 <suanand> thank you again pnemade++
08:05:49 <paragan> but good to see number of community people tested i18n for F38
08:06:03 <JensPetersen[m]> I hope someone retested Bulgarian
08:06:04 <paragan> which included some KDE and Silverblue people
08:06:23 <JensPetersen[m]> It would be good to account for any unfiled issues that were brought up
08:06:31 <suanand> Yea.. that's great, looks healthy :)
08:06:52 <paragan> I have not tried Bulgarian but tried other language switching
08:06:57 <paragan> there is no crash at all
08:07:08 <suanand> nice!
08:07:39 <suanand> let's move to another issue
08:07:46 <suanand> #info #177: Fedora 36 Bug triaging (pnemade)
08:07:47 <suanand> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/177
08:07:54 <suanand> #info Assignee wise count of the bugs as of today
08:07:54 <suanand> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/177#comment-849675
08:08:03 <suanand> folks, please update your tickets accordingly.
08:08:03 <suanand> anyone has anything to discuss here?
08:09:55 * suanand hopes things are moving there, and we will get more updates in the coming weeks.
08:10:06 <suanand> #info #175: Tracker for Fedora 38 Changes (pnemade)
08:10:06 <suanand> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/175
08:10:12 <suanand> #info Change: libpinyin 2.8
08:10:13 <suanand> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-docs/release-notes/issue/938
08:10:19 <suanand> pwu: would you like to discuss/mention anything?
08:11:42 <suanand> #info Change: Noto Fonts For More Languages
08:11:43 <suanand> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-docs/release-notes/issue/953
08:11:43 <suanand> tagoh: would you like to discuss/mention anything?
08:12:14 <pwu> suanand: I think libpinyin 2.8 change is okay.
08:12:27 <tagoh[m]> No, not particularly
08:12:35 <suanand> #info Change: Noto CJK Variable Fonts
08:12:36 <suanand> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-docs/release-notes/issue/959
08:12:36 <suanand> pwu: would you like to discuss/mention anything?
08:13:21 <pwu> suanand: I think we are still testing for this Change.
08:13:40 <suanand> great, thank you pwu and tagoh for the inputs!
08:14:07 <suanand> Anyone has anything to discuss in 'issues'?
08:14:37 <JensPetersen[m]> Seems there could be an issue with Libreoffice?
08:15:09 <pwu> Yes
08:15:16 <suanand> as in, if we can have some context
08:16:10 <paragan> is there any issue with CJK font selection in Libreoffice?
08:16:30 <JensPetersen[m]> Dunno if pwu is replying...
08:16:41 <JensPetersen[m]> He found an issue with pdf generation I believe
08:16:47 <pwu> The Chinese characters become closer to each other...
08:16:52 <JensPetersen[m]> ah
08:17:09 <suanand> aha
08:17:55 <suanand> pwu: how would you like to take this further?
08:18:07 <pwu> I think I will report one bug for it.
08:18:09 <tagoh[m]> Is it a variable font specific issue? what if installing non-variable fonts?
08:18:10 <JensPetersen[m]> Probably not a release blocker? but would be good to fix it sooner than later I think
08:18:30 <pwu> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2183904
08:18:57 <pwu> This is one issue, I plan to open another issue for the Noto CJK VF.
08:19:43 <suanand> #info Chinese characters rendering overlaps when no printer configured
08:19:46 <suanand> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2183904
08:19:53 <suanand> great thank you pwu++
08:21:36 <JensPetersen[m]> Just a general reminder to everyone: please remember to CC i18n-bugs
08:21:52 <suanand> twinkle: if you can have some collaboration with pwu in speed testing this.
08:22:06 <JensPetersen[m]> (I just added it)
08:22:16 <pwu> JensPetersen[m]: thanks!
08:22:21 <twinkle> Sure Sundeep !!
08:23:09 <suanand> #topic Open Floor
08:23:12 <JensPetersen[m]> Maybe printer config relates to font embedding??
08:23:21 <pwu> I dunno
08:25:08 <suanand> Anyone has anything to discuss in Open Floor?
08:25:12 <suanand> feel free.
08:25:26 <suanand> mfabian: how was your break?
08:25:47 <mfabian[m]> Great, it was a wonderful trip. Now I have to catch up with work.
08:25:56 <pwu> tagoh[m]: I think it is variable font specific issue...
08:26:08 <suanand> mfabian: gr8
08:27:24 <pwu> tagoh[m]: for the Chinese characters rendering closer...
08:27:45 <pwu> tagoh[m]: not report it yet.
08:27:48 <suanand> pwu: thanks for digging it deeper!
08:29:45 * suanand assumes people are discussing the variable font issue and hence some room.
08:29:46 <tagoh[m]> pwu: This is a fault in a font, we should reassign LO bug to Noto CJK. if this is an application bug which happened for missing VF support etc like we saw in Qt, I think we don't need a separate bug.
08:32:07 <pwu> tagoh[m]: Sorry, I think maybe LO maintainer could investigate that...
08:32:28 <tagoh[m]> Yes
08:33:24 <suanand> pwu, tagoh: you may want to update bugzilla, glad to see quick findings!
08:34:21 <pwu> Let me file the bug, and let LibreOffice maintainer to investigate that issue...
08:36:46 <suanand> tagoh and pwu: please continue your discussions, happy to follow up :)
08:37:01 <suanand> thank you everyone for coming today, see you in the next meeting on 2023-04-17.
08:37:02 <suanand> take care!
08:37:02 <suanand> #endmeeting