08:00:24 <paragan> #startmeeting i18n 08:00:24 <zodbot> Meeting started Mon Jul 24 08:00:24 2023 UTC. 08:00:24 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 08:00:24 <zodbot> The chair is paragan. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 08:00:24 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 08:00:24 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'i18n' 08:00:26 <paragan> #meetingname i18n 08:00:26 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'i18n' 08:00:28 <paragan> #topic agenda and roll call 08:00:32 <paragan> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2023-07-24 08:00:36 <pwu> hi 08:00:36 * LunaJernberg[m] is here 08:00:41 <mfabian[m]> ☺ 08:01:22 <fujiwara[m]> hi 08:01:31 <paragan> #chair pwu LukasFriedrich[m mfabian[m] fujiwara[m] 08:01:31 <zodbot> Current chairs: LukasFriedrich[m fujiwara[m] mfabian[m] paragan pwu 08:01:35 <paragan> Hi all 08:02:11 <paragan> let's start our bi-weekly meeting 08:02:28 <paragan> we will first look into upcoming Fedora milestones 08:02:35 <paragan> #topic Upcoming schedule 08:02:35 <paragan> #info Tue 2023-08-01 Retire Orphaned and Long-Time FTBFS Rawhide Packages 08:02:35 <paragan> #info Tue 2023-08-08 Change Checkpoint: Completion deadline (testable) 08:02:35 <paragan> #info Tue 2023-08-08 Branch Fedora Linux 39 from Rawhide 08:02:36 <paragan> #info Tue 2023-08-08 Post-branch Freeze (end date approximate) 08:03:06 <paragan> mass-rebuild for F39 is still going on 08:03:10 <JensPetersen[m]> hi 08:03:23 <JensPetersen[m]> not finished? 08:03:29 <paragan> check if you got any failures https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/mass-rebuild/f39-failures.html 08:04:15 <paragan> yeah it should have been completed at least once 08:04:44 <paragan> let's wait for releng to announce the same on devel list 08:04:53 <JensPetersen[m]> Sure 08:05:03 <JensPetersen[m]> I hope it gets "merged" today 08:05:03 <paragan> also I think mass-rebuild sidetag not merged yet in rawhide 08:05:11 <JensPetersen[m]> Nod 08:06:46 <paragan> anything to discuss here in this topic? 08:08:14 <JensPetersen[m]> No, apart from the testable changepoint 08:08:26 <paragan> interesting to see some fonts packages were not picked for this mass-rebuild 08:08:33 <paragan> need to check this later on 08:08:52 <JensPetersen[m]> Sometimes thing we could merge this schedule update together with the Changes 08:08:58 <JensPetersen[m]> paragan: oh 08:09:09 <JensPetersen[m]> s/thing/think/ 08:09:25 <JensPetersen[m]> Maybe srpm failures? 08:09:36 <paragan> yeah probably 08:09:48 <JensPetersen[m]> My understanding is that all packages should have been rebuilt 08:10:03 <SudipShil[m]> hi 08:10:26 <paragan> yes for their first round they have been attempted for rebuild 08:10:49 <paragan> but some got skipped due to srpm failed to build 08:11:21 <JensPetersen[m]> The results look fairly sane to me anyway - not expecting another round unless something pecular happened 08:12:33 <paragan> Okay. Better we check our packages and build the remaining as well as failed packages. 08:13:41 <tagoh[m]> they will be reported on bugzilla as FTBFS? 08:14:11 <paragan> failed one sure, don't know about those which failed to build srpm 08:15:00 <JensPetersen[m]> There was some discussion about this recently - I think failed srpms are kind of a loophole 08:15:19 <JensPetersen[m]> Neither reported nor show up on failure.html 08:15:34 <tagoh[m]> Hmm 08:15:38 <JensPetersen[m]> Though they should be listed in need-rebuild.html(?) 08:15:49 <paragan> that is the reason always refer https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/mass-rebuild/f39-need-rebuild.html 08:16:00 <paragan> not the failure html 08:16:19 <JensPetersen[m]> Right that more useful afterwards 08:17:14 <JensPetersen[m]> Though I like that failures.html does update (though maybe only during?) 08:19:06 <JensPetersen[m]> * Though I like that failures.html does update 08:19:16 <JensPetersen[m]> * Right that's more 08:20:26 <JensPetersen[m]> Oh, more packages on the other list ;-( 08:21:50 <JensPetersen[m]> Not just fonts then 08:22:52 <JensPetersen[m]> Though only 1486 08:22:57 <LunaJernberg[m]> some more indeed :p 08:23:24 <LunaJernberg[m]> JensPetersen[m]: might be more in the end as its stil rebuilding this week but hopefully not 08:24:20 <JensPetersen[m]> Yeah dunno, I think the main run finished 08:24:40 <JensPetersen[m]> Anyway shall we move on? 08:24:44 <paragan> Ok 08:24:55 <paragan> #topic Issues 08:24:55 <paragan> #info #179: Tracker for Fedora 39 Changes (pnemade) 08:24:55 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/179 08:25:11 <paragan> Today's status 08:25:11 <paragan> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ibus-anthy_1.5.15 => ChangeReadyForFesco 08:25:11 <paragan> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ImproveDefaultFontHandling => ChangeAcceptedF39 08:25:12 <paragan> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Indic_Noto_fonts => ChangeAnnounced 08:25:12 <paragan> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/IBus_1.5.29 => ChangeAnnounced 08:25:36 <paragan> anything to discuss here? 08:26:49 <tagoh[m]> For langpacks, it is going well. preparing some updates on comps and a few more improvements. 08:27:19 <paragan> thanks for the update on langpacks 08:29:01 <paragan> Other Changes are still waiting for the process of approval 08:29:09 <JensPetersen[m]> Yes good to see default-fonts land in rawhide 08:29:18 <paragan> let's move then to next isue 08:29:22 <paragan> *issue 08:29:35 <paragan> #info #180: Fedora 37 Bug triaging (pnemade) 08:29:35 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/180 08:30:14 <LunaJernberg[m]> 25 issues today 08:30:29 <paragan> yes 08:30:40 <LunaJernberg[m]> so a couple less since last time 08:31:01 <paragan> reminder to keep triaging your bugs 08:31:43 <paragan> moving to next issue 08:31:55 <paragan> #info #181: Fedora 39 i18n test day/week (pnemade) 08:31:55 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/181 08:31:55 <paragan> # 08:32:24 <paragan> if we look into Fedora 39 schedule then 22nd Aug 2023 is Beta Freeze date 08:32:31 <paragan> and 12th Sep 2023 is Beta release date 08:32:44 <paragan> therefore proposing 5th Sept week as i18n test day week start 08:33:16 <paragan> any concerns for 5th Sept week? 08:33:20 <LunaJernberg[m]> +1 works for me will try to help and great initative as always 08:35:27 <paragan> #info Ok then I will setup F39 i18n test week for 5th Sept week 08:35:50 * LunaJernberg[m] adds to my Google Calendar so i remember to help out then 08:35:53 <JensPetersen[m]> Okay 08:36:35 <paragan> moving to next topic 08:36:36 <paragan> #topic Open Floor 08:36:41 <paragan> anything to discuss here? 08:36:51 * LunaJernberg[m] does not have anything 08:38:20 <JensPetersen[m]> Guadec starts this week 08:38:36 <LunaJernberg[m]> yep will help out at it virtually/online 08:38:59 <LunaJernberg[m]> talks starts on Wednesday, Dinner for people in Riga tommorow, and meetings for GNOMIEs later during this week :) 08:39:07 <LunaJernberg[m]> https://events.gnome.org/event/101/ http://guadec.org 08:39:42 <JensPetersen[m]> https://events.gnome.org/event/101/timetable/#all.detailed (schedule) 08:39:49 <JensPetersen[m]> Luna Jernberg: nice 08:40:09 <LunaJernberg[m]> so cya there atleast online for people who are attending, starting to prep stuff later today in some hours 08:41:15 <LunaJernberg[m]> (Hotel in Riga for a week was to expensive for me) 08:41:30 <JensPetersen[m]> Next week is Flock of course 08:42:28 <JensPetersen[m]> which is probably even more expensive 😬 08:43:07 <LunaJernberg[m]> heh also gonna attend that online but only 50% i think as i start dayjob again during the Flock Week 08:43:14 <LunaJernberg[m]> also CentOS Connect during Flock 08:43:27 <LunaJernberg[m]> https://connect.centos.org/ 1-2th August and Flock 2-5th August 08:43:33 <LunaJernberg[m]> https://flocktofedora.org/ 08:45:23 <LunaJernberg[m]> also Schedule for Flock and CentOS Connect is out now too adds to my Google calendar 08:47:41 <paragan> Let's stop here. Thank you for joining this meeting and providing your updates here. 08:47:50 <paragan> #endmeeting