08:00:24 <paragan> #startmeeting i18n
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08:00:28 <paragan> #topic agenda and roll call
08:00:32 <paragan> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2023-07-24
08:00:36 <pwu> hi
08:00:36 * LunaJernberg[m] is here
08:00:41 <mfabian[m]> ☺
08:01:22 <fujiwara[m]> hi
08:01:31 <paragan> #chair pwu LukasFriedrich[m mfabian[m] fujiwara[m]
08:01:31 <zodbot> Current chairs: LukasFriedrich[m fujiwara[m] mfabian[m] paragan pwu
08:01:35 <paragan> Hi all
08:02:11 <paragan> let's start our bi-weekly meeting
08:02:28 <paragan> we will first look into upcoming Fedora milestones
08:02:35 <paragan> #topic Upcoming schedule
08:02:35 <paragan> #info Tue 2023-08-01 Retire Orphaned and Long-Time FTBFS Rawhide Packages
08:02:35 <paragan> #info Tue 2023-08-08 Change Checkpoint: Completion deadline (testable)
08:02:35 <paragan> #info Tue 2023-08-08 Branch Fedora Linux 39 from Rawhide
08:02:36 <paragan> #info Tue 2023-08-08 Post-branch Freeze (end date approximate)
08:03:06 <paragan> mass-rebuild for F39 is still going on
08:03:10 <JensPetersen[m]> hi
08:03:23 <JensPetersen[m]> not finished?
08:03:29 <paragan> check if you got any failures https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/mass-rebuild/f39-failures.html
08:04:15 <paragan> yeah it should have been completed at least once
08:04:44 <paragan> let's wait for releng to announce the same on devel list
08:04:53 <JensPetersen[m]> Sure
08:05:03 <JensPetersen[m]> I hope it gets "merged" today
08:05:03 <paragan> also I think mass-rebuild sidetag not merged yet in rawhide
08:05:11 <JensPetersen[m]> Nod
08:06:46 <paragan> anything to discuss here in this topic?
08:08:14 <JensPetersen[m]> No, apart from the testable changepoint
08:08:26 <paragan> interesting to see some fonts packages were not picked for this mass-rebuild
08:08:33 <paragan> need to check this later on
08:08:52 <JensPetersen[m]> Sometimes thing we could merge this schedule update together with the Changes
08:08:58 <JensPetersen[m]> paragan: oh
08:09:09 <JensPetersen[m]> s/thing/think/
08:09:25 <JensPetersen[m]> Maybe srpm failures?
08:09:36 <paragan> yeah probably
08:09:48 <JensPetersen[m]> My understanding is that all packages should have been rebuilt
08:10:03 <SudipShil[m]> hi
08:10:26 <paragan> yes for their first round they have been attempted for rebuild
08:10:49 <paragan> but some got skipped due to srpm failed to build
08:11:21 <JensPetersen[m]> The results look fairly sane to me anyway - not expecting another round unless something pecular happened
08:12:33 <paragan> Okay. Better we check our packages and build the remaining as well as failed packages.
08:13:41 <tagoh[m]> they will be reported on bugzilla as FTBFS?
08:14:11 <paragan> failed one sure, don't know about those which failed to build srpm
08:15:00 <JensPetersen[m]> There was some discussion about this recently - I think failed srpms are kind of a loophole
08:15:19 <JensPetersen[m]> Neither reported nor show up on failure.html
08:15:34 <tagoh[m]> Hmm
08:15:38 <JensPetersen[m]> Though they should be listed in need-rebuild.html(?)
08:15:49 <paragan> that is the reason always refer https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/mass-rebuild/f39-need-rebuild.html
08:16:00 <paragan> not the failure html
08:16:19 <JensPetersen[m]> Right that more useful afterwards
08:17:14 <JensPetersen[m]> Though I like that failures.html does update (though maybe only during?)
08:19:06 <JensPetersen[m]> * Though I like that failures.html does update
08:19:16 <JensPetersen[m]> * Right that's more
08:20:26 <JensPetersen[m]> Oh, more packages on the other list ;-(
08:21:50 <JensPetersen[m]> Not just fonts then
08:22:52 <JensPetersen[m]> Though only 1486
08:22:57 <LunaJernberg[m]> some more indeed :p
08:23:24 <LunaJernberg[m]> JensPetersen[m]: might be more in the end as its stil rebuilding this week but hopefully not
08:24:20 <JensPetersen[m]> Yeah dunno, I think the main run finished
08:24:40 <JensPetersen[m]> Anyway shall we move on?
08:24:44 <paragan> Ok
08:24:55 <paragan> #topic Issues
08:24:55 <paragan> #info #179: Tracker for Fedora 39 Changes (pnemade)
08:24:55 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/179
08:25:11 <paragan> Today's status
08:25:11 <paragan> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ibus-anthy_1.5.15 => ChangeReadyForFesco
08:25:11 <paragan> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ImproveDefaultFontHandling => ChangeAcceptedF39
08:25:12 <paragan> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Indic_Noto_fonts => ChangeAnnounced
08:25:12 <paragan> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/IBus_1.5.29 => ChangeAnnounced
08:25:36 <paragan> anything to discuss here?
08:26:49 <tagoh[m]> For langpacks, it is going well. preparing some updates on comps and a few more improvements.
08:27:19 <paragan> thanks for the update on langpacks
08:29:01 <paragan> Other Changes are still waiting for the process of approval
08:29:09 <JensPetersen[m]> Yes good to see default-fonts land in rawhide
08:29:18 <paragan> let's move then to next isue
08:29:22 <paragan> *issue
08:29:35 <paragan> #info #180: Fedora 37 Bug triaging (pnemade)
08:29:35 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/180
08:30:14 <LunaJernberg[m]> 25 issues today
08:30:29 <paragan> yes
08:30:40 <LunaJernberg[m]> so a couple less since last time
08:31:01 <paragan> reminder to keep triaging your bugs
08:31:43 <paragan> moving to next issue
08:31:55 <paragan> #info #181: Fedora 39 i18n test day/week (pnemade)
08:31:55 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/181
08:31:55 <paragan> #
08:32:24 <paragan> if we look into Fedora 39 schedule then 22nd Aug 2023 is Beta Freeze date
08:32:31 <paragan> and  12th Sep 2023 is Beta release date
08:32:44 <paragan> therefore  proposing 5th Sept week as i18n test day week start
08:33:16 <paragan> any concerns for 5th Sept week?
08:33:20 <LunaJernberg[m]> +1 works for me will try to help and great initative as always
08:35:27 <paragan> #info Ok then I will setup F39 i18n test week for 5th Sept week
08:35:50 * LunaJernberg[m] adds to my Google Calendar so i remember to help out then
08:35:53 <JensPetersen[m]> Okay
08:36:35 <paragan> moving to next topic
08:36:36 <paragan> #topic Open Floor
08:36:41 <paragan> anything to discuss here?
08:36:51 * LunaJernberg[m] does not have anything
08:38:20 <JensPetersen[m]> Guadec starts this week
08:38:36 <LunaJernberg[m]> yep will help out at it virtually/online
08:38:59 <LunaJernberg[m]> talks starts on Wednesday, Dinner for people in Riga tommorow, and meetings for GNOMIEs later during this week :)
08:39:07 <LunaJernberg[m]> https://events.gnome.org/event/101/ http://guadec.org
08:39:42 <JensPetersen[m]> https://events.gnome.org/event/101/timetable/#all.detailed (schedule)
08:39:49 <JensPetersen[m]> Luna Jernberg: nice
08:40:09 <LunaJernberg[m]> so cya there atleast online for people who are attending, starting to prep stuff later today in some hours
08:41:15 <LunaJernberg[m]> (Hotel in Riga for a week was to expensive for me)
08:41:30 <JensPetersen[m]> Next week is Flock of course
08:42:28 <JensPetersen[m]> which is probably even more expensive 😬
08:43:07 <LunaJernberg[m]> heh also gonna attend that online but only 50% i think as i start dayjob again during the Flock Week
08:43:14 <LunaJernberg[m]> also CentOS Connect during Flock
08:43:27 <LunaJernberg[m]> https://connect.centos.org/ 1-2th August and Flock 2-5th August
08:43:33 <LunaJernberg[m]> https://flocktofedora.org/
08:45:23 <LunaJernberg[m]> also Schedule for Flock and CentOS Connect is out now too adds to my Google calendar
08:47:41 <paragan> Let's stop here. Thank you for joining this meeting and providing your updates here.
08:47:50 <paragan> #endmeeting