#meeting:fedoraproject.org log

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:00:09

!startmeeting i18n

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

08:00:12

Meeting started at 2024-04-29 08:00:09 UTC

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

08:00:12

The Meeting name is 'i18n'

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:00:14

!meetingname i18n

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:00:22

!topic agenda and roll call

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:00:32

!link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2024-04-29

<@kanru:wara.tw>

08:01:16

<@twinkle28:fedora.im>

08:01:22

<@mfabian:matrix.org>

08:01:36

<@matiwari:fedora.im>

08:01:36

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:02:16

Hi all

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:02:25

Let's start today's meeting

<@juhp:matrix.org>

08:02:30

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:02:41

as decided we will first go through issues

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:02:49

!topic Issues

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:03:15

!info #182: Tracker for Fedora 40 Changes (pnemade)

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:03:34

!link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/182

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:04:00

For this ticket only release notes are pending for our Changes

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:04:15

do we need to keep tracking release notes and keep this ticket open?

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:04:33

or we will keep checking release notes status offline and close this ticket now

<@juhp:matrix.org>

08:05:31

I don't think any relnote needed for ibus-anthy - not sure about ibus-1.5.30

<@juhp:matrix.org>

08:05:49

still rc3

<@juhp:matrix.org>

08:06:26

Not sure it is worth worrying about?

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:06:39

Ok then, I will close this ticket

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:06:42

Thanks

<@sshil:fedora.im>

08:07:39

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:08:05

Let's move to next ticket

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:08:14

!info #183: Fedora 38 Bug triaging (pnemade)

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:08:20

!link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/183

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:09:38

we still have 26 bugs in this list

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:12:17

hopefully we will triage some more soon

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:12:52

anything else to discuss for this ticket?

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:13:40

if nothing then let's move to next ticket

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:13:42

!info #185: Evaluate if we can have ibus-chewing as default IME for Taiwan (pwu)

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:13:52

!link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/185

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:14:22

any updates to share for this ticket here?

<@kanru:wara.tw>

08:16:44

There's some feedback comments in the discussion thread. I don't see any objections.

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:18:49

Should we then make the ibus-chewing as default for Taiwan then by submitting F41 Change?

<@kanru:wara.tw>

08:19:16

I'm not sure what's next. Any suggestions?

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:20:17

if the response is positive then you can submit F41 Change

<@juhp:matrix.org>

08:20:22

Do you want to draft the Change proposal?

<@kanru:wara.tw>

08:21:03

Yeah, sounds good. I can do that.

<@juhp:matrix.org>

08:21:28

Good

<@juhp:matrix.org>

08:22:32

I feel it would not hurt to send out a "heads-up" mail to some fedora lists too :)

<@juhp:matrix.org>

08:23:05

I think your post talked about a "test day"?

<@juhp:matrix.org>

08:23:37

Well "heads-up" is wrong - but I mean an email discussion too

<@kanru:wara.tw>

08:25:05

What should be the email list? I recently learned there's a Taiwan community list though the mail volume is sparse.

<@juhp:matrix.org>

08:25:21

I generally find pre-announcing these things early, tends to make them less <del>controversial</del>surprising - not that I am saying it is

<@juhp:matrix.org>

08:25:36

Sure that would be a good candidate too

<@juhp:matrix.org>

08:26:02

There is also i18n list and trans list, maybe devel list or desktop too

<@juhp:matrix.org>

08:26:54

You could do both in parallel I think

<@kanru:wara.tw>

08:27:25

Ok, I'll draft a proposal, and send a "intend to" mail to those lists to direct more discussion to the thread.

<@juhp:matrix.org>

08:27:38

Sounds good

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:28:32

Thanks

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:29:56

moving to next ticket

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:30:03

!info #186: Tool to install i18n support (petersen)

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:30:09

!link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/186

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:30:19

any updates on this ticket?

<@juhp:matrix.org>

08:31:58

No.... perhaps we should drop it for now, until more clarity

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:32:37

Okay thanks

<@juhp:matrix.org>

08:32:53

Well the CJK priority is a real problem though

<@juhp:matrix.org>

08:33:21

So perhaps we could reduce the problem to that

<@juhp:matrix.org>

08:33:32

So perhaps we could reduce the problem scope to that

<@juhp:matrix.org>

08:34:34

Well the CJK font priority is a real problem though

<@juhp:matrix.org>

08:34:47

Well the CJK relative font priority is a real problem though

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:35:33

Jens Petersen: Can you update the ticket with this information?

<@juhp:matrix.org>

08:35:42

Yeah

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:35:48

Thanks

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:37:06

moving to next ticket

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:37:07

!info #187: proposal to start meeting one hour earlier (petersen)

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:37:14

!link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/187

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:37:59

We got this proposal to start meeting one hour early

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:38:24

any objections/concerns?

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:38:53

Should we move from 0800 UTC to 0700 UTC?

<@juhp:matrix.org>

08:40:16

I think it mainly affects mfabian

<@juhp:matrix.org>

08:41:12

Well and bitten when they are here

<@mfabian:matrix.org>

08:41:35

Fine with me.

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:42:17

good

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:43:07

I assume no concerns mean we are good to move to 0700 UTC

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:44:25

#info from next meeting we are changing this meeting time to 0700 UTC

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:45:00

!info from next meeting we are changing this meeting time to 0700 UTC

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:45:35

moving to next topic

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:45:42

!topic Upcoming schedule

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:45:51

!info Tue 2024-05-21 Fedora Linux 38 EOL auto closure

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:46:00

!info Wed 2024-06-19 Change Checkpoint: Proposal submission deadline (Changes requiring infrastructure changes)

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:46:11

!info Tue 2024-06-25 Change Checkpoint: Proposal submission deadline (Changes requiring mass rebuild)

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:46:50

As you know Last week we saw F40 released

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:47:08

now there will be good amount of time to submit Change proposals for F41

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:47:25

anything to discuss here?

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:48:18

I guess nothing to discuss, let's move

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:48:25

!topic Open Floor

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:49:27

anyone around to chair next meeting on 13th May?

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:49:46

I will not be available on 13th May

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:51:02

if no one is available to chair then let's cancel next meeting and meet on 27th May meeting

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:51:27

also I think there are no tickets that need discussion by next meeting

<@juhp:matrix.org>

08:52:16

Okay sounds reasonable

<@juhp:matrix.org>

08:52:41

Or we could wait too - we can probably find someone

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:52:58

Okay thanks

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:53:04

anything else to discuss here?

<@juhp:matrix.org>

08:53:05

Kanru may have an update

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:53:14

Sure

<@juhp:matrix.org>

08:54:02

I think fujiwara is also considering a Vietnamese ime change - though dunno why he plans to submit

<@juhp:matrix.org>

08:54:15

sorry _when_

<@juhp:matrix.org>

08:54:23

I think fujiwara is also considering a Vietnamese ime change - though dunno when he plans to submit

<@juhp:matrix.org>

08:55:19

It would be good to get both such Changes ready early to get as much testing as possible

<@juhp:matrix.org>

08:56:53

I think fujiwara is also considering a Vietnamese ime change - though dunno _when_ he plans to submit

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:57:49

let's stop here

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:57:56

Thank you for joining this meeting

<@paragan:matrix.org>

08:58:04

!endmeeting