18:16:46 <defolos> #startmeeting i3-sig
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18:17:07 <x3mboy> Is zodbot there?
18:17:09 <defolos> hm, that was wrong then
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18:18:08 <odilhao> #chair
18:18:14 <odilhao> weird
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18:19:10 <defolos> .chair odilhao
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18:20:02 <defolos> #addchair odilhao
18:20:13 <defolos> a screw this
18:20:14 <defolos> #topic welcome app
18:21:03 <defolos> good lord is the bridge slow
18:21:34 <x3mboy> It looks like
18:22:02 <defolos> so lets go with the welcome app
18:22:09 <defolos> havent had really time nor motivation to work on that
18:22:43 <defolos> the rust code kinda sucks and I'd like to rewrite it in python and tk
18:22:45 <odilhao> Do we still have something that we want to add the app?
18:22:48 <defolos> because the rust app uses far too much gnome stuff and will become a huge maintenance burden in the long run
18:23:01 <defolos> not really no
18:23:10 <defolos> at least I don't know of anything
18:23:49 <odilhao> +1 to switching to python, I never did anything for desktop with Python, do we need only Qt?
18:23:57 <defolos> any ideas how to proceed?
18:24:13 <defolos> odilhao: python tk should be enough
18:24:40 <defolos> it's included in the default python installation
18:24:41 <defolos> so no extra deps 😉
18:26:26 <odilhao> The only thing that might slow us down is the layout, that we would need to create again
18:27:42 <defolos> yes, we'd have to start from zero
18:27:44 <defolos> and by we, I mean probably me
18:28:02 <defolos> unless anyone wants to jump in?
18:30:13 <defolos> ok, next or anything to add here?
18:30:24 <odilhao> I'm not i na position to say that I can jump in, would take sometime for me to understand tk
18:34:07 <x3mboy> I can jump in to start from zero
18:34:18 <x3mboy> But starting in January
18:34:39 <x3mboy> Should I create a new branch on the repo?
18:34:43 <x3mboy> And start there?
18:35:13 <defolos> nah, start a new repo on pagure or wherever fits you best
18:35:24 <x3mboy> Ok!
18:35:35 <x3mboy> I will have news on new year
18:36:01 <defolos> 👍️
18:36:54 <x3mboy> I would like to talk about the Color schema
18:37:22 <defolos> ok, so color scheme?
18:37:22 <x3mboy> It's my understanding that the latest i3 version support several config files
18:37:56 <x3mboy> So, we can include a new config file: fedora.config?
18:38:22 <defolos> yes it does
18:38:24 <defolos> but we already provide the fedora color scheme
18:38:27 <defolos> its in the i3-config-fedora package
18:38:34 <x3mboy> Are we sure?
18:38:48 <x3mboy> Because I had to manually set the color in my f35 fresh install
18:39:40 <defolos> which packages have you installed
18:39:42 <defolos> and yes I am sure
18:40:06 <x3mboy> Checking it, give me a second
18:40:13 <defolos> x3mboy: you need i3-config-fedora and no config in ~
18:40:17 <x3mboy> Because it's in my personal
18:40:34 <defolos> well
18:40:42 <defolos> there's your problem
18:41:03 <x3mboy> So, if that's there, so it's me
18:41:11 <x3mboy> defolos: Yes, sorry about that
18:41:42 <defolos> the issue is that i3 cannot override user config with system ones
18:41:56 <defolos> you only get the i3 color scheme if you start from scratch
18:42:05 <defolos> unfortunately I don't know how to work around that
18:42:46 <x3mboy> M4t14$f3d0r4
18:42:54 <defolos> uh?
18:43:03 <x3mboy> Sorry, bad window
18:43:04 <defolos> is that your root pw?
18:43:09 <defolos> pls change it now x3mboy
18:43:13 <x3mboy> Jejeje, nop
18:43:14 <defolos> it's on irc now
18:43:15 <odilhao> change it
18:43:24 <x3mboy> But stiill changing it
18:43:25 <x3mboy> :D
18:44:41 <defolos> anyone wants to try finding ways how to address the color scheme thingy?
18:44:56 <x3mboy> I will, because I'm interested
18:45:04 <x3mboy> But again, low priority
18:46:52 <defolos> ok, what's next on the agenda?
18:46:56 <defolos> terminal app?
18:47:15 <x3mboy> default terminal application change
18:47:22 <x3mboy> Yes
18:47:44 <x3mboy> Last time we discussed this, we kind of agreed that we would change to xfce4-terminal
18:47:44 <defolos> afaik we switched to xfce4-terminal
18:48:08 <defolos> that should be in place
18:48:09 <odilhao> I think we need to update our comps
18:48:11 <defolos> in theory…
18:48:15 <odilhao> or it's already changed?
18:48:18 <x3mboy> But did we actaully the change?
18:48:30 <x3mboy> I couldn't find the kickstart
18:48:42 <x3mboy> Or comps
18:48:55 <x3mboy> We do that with comps, no with the kickstart
18:49:01 <defolos> lemme check the comps repo
18:49:59 <odilhao> I'm looking at comps, we don't have a terminal there
18:50:02 <defolos> the i3 comps group has no terminal in it
18:51:59 <defolos> darn
18:52:06 <defolos> so I need to fix that
18:52:07 <defolos> action item for me
18:53:33 <odilhao> Did we removed this? I remember that we had urxvt
18:54:04 <defolos> ok, should be fixed by adding i3-config-fedora to comps
18:54:16 <defolos> I'll do that in a minute
18:54:36 <defolos> odilhao: you'll get urxvt via i3-config, it recommends it
18:55:27 <x3mboy> So, my last meeting point is: Are we happy with our i3 Spin. I'm very very happy
18:56:06 <x3mboy> Most' critics have been good, because most power users have their own configs. I think we need to improve in the non-power-user land
18:56:30 <x3mboy> And that's where the welcome app will become vital
18:56:32 <defolos> yeah, we need to gather more feedback and be better at outreach
18:57:15 <x3mboy> Agreed, I usually go to reddit and look for stuff in YouTube, but need to do more research and improve there
18:57:56 <odilhao> I'm really happy, It's amazing to just get the ISO install the minimal packages, import my dotfiles and everything is working
18:58:37 <defolos> can we reach out to our marketting group to get help?
18:59:36 <defolos> I'll try to push the welcome app higher up my priority list, but lately I've become very burned out on tech, so please bear with me if it takes aaaages
19:00:47 <x3mboy> It depends
19:01:08 <x3mboy> There is no marketing group, maybe mindshare and social-media
19:02:10 <defolos> social-media thens
19:02:18 <defolos> * social-media then?
19:02:53 <x3mboy> Sure
19:03:41 <defolos> guys, I need to wrap up
19:04:21 <defolos> would it be ok if I send the summary on the list and we schedule another meeting this year?
19:05:03 <odilhao> defolos, +1
19:06:30 * defolos goes to take a shower then
19:10:10 <x3mboy> +1
19:10:22 <x3mboy> #endmeeting
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20:17:02 <telegram_1999665> How do I install to my hard drive
20:17:02 <telegram_1999665> please
20:36:46 <x3mboy> I'm not sure to understand, but if you already boot the i3 Spin ISO, you need to press your meta key (It should be "Windows" key or "Alt" key, depending on how you answer the first screen question)=
20:37:33 <telegram_1999665> yeah I have the spin on my usb stick but how do I install it to my hard drive
20:37:52 <x3mboy> Meta key + D and write "liveinst"
20:38:19 <Dan[m]12> telegram_1999665: can you boot from it?
20:38:19 <telegram_1999665> yes
20:38:42 <Dan[m]12> telegram_1999665: then do as x3mboy says
20:38:56 <telegram_1999665> ok
20:39:02 <Dan[m]12> once it has booted: press meta + d, type liveinst and proceed with the installation
20:39:15 <Dan[m]12> meta is either alt or win/super
05:29:20 <JooPaulo[m]1> 5559
07:19:25 <Dan[m]123> Welcome @jhonesto
15:29:02 <JooPaulo[m]1> <Dan[m]123> "Welcome @jhonesto" <- Thanks Dan
15:30:13 <JooPaulo[m]1> Can you guys please help me?... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/72ef2aa5bbbff0f8d3be2533ea77cbc3f35e3290)
15:31:22 <Dan[m]123> > <João Paulo> Can you guys please help me?... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/dfcfe1b1bda0b2dafc30ae180f5ca29729c513d3)
15:31:37 <Dan[m]123> since you're running Fedora, you already have zram enabled, so not much to gain from that
15:42:36 <JooPaulo[m]1> <Dan[m]123> "> <João Paulo> Can you guys..." <- Ok I'll try to disable parallel build. Thanks