16:02:08 <x3mboy> #startmeeting Fedora i3 (2021-01-19)
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16:02:24 <x3mboy> #meetingname i3
16:02:24 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'i3'
16:02:37 <x3mboy> #topic roll call
16:02:43 <x3mboy> .hello2
16:02:44 <zodbot> x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' <eduardlucena@gmail.com>
16:02:44 <nasirhm> .hello2
16:02:47 <zodbot> nasirhm: nasirhm 'Nasir Hussain' <nasirhussainm14@gmail.com>
16:03:02 <x3mboy> I'm on jitsi, since this should be a video meeting
16:03:10 <x3mboy> Keeping IRC for logs
16:03:19 <x3mboy> https://meet.jit.si/fedora-i3
16:03:24 <x3mboy> pass: fedora-i3
16:04:30 <defolos> Sorry, have a work meeting, video meeting is a nogo
16:04:55 <nasirhm> No Worries defolos
16:05:08 <x3mboy> No problem
16:06:00 <x3mboy> So let's do text meeting
16:06:03 <x3mboy> :D
16:06:21 <x3mboy> #topic Agenda
16:06:22 <nasirhm> defolos++ x3mboy++
16:06:32 <x3mboy> #link https://hackmd.io/KqI2T6vUQL-Nd9mMpGl3kA?view
16:06:56 <x3mboy> #chair nasirhm defolos
16:06:56 <zodbot> Current chairs: defolos nasirhm x3mboy
16:07:38 * defolos is only half here
16:08:07 <x3mboy> - Current state of things
16:08:20 <x3mboy> - Releng needs a PR to https://pagure.io/fedora-kickstarts
16:08:28 <x3mboy> - Content for Fedora Spins' website
16:08:34 <x3mboy> - Ticket triage (https://pagure.io/i3-sig/Fedora-i3-Spin/issues
16:08:49 * nasirhm can work on the Releng PR.
16:08:52 <x3mboy> #topic Current state of things
16:09:41 <x3mboy> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/i3wm@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/KTC4ILE27HPOEVV3BHFUWPNWVUA6M33G/
16:09:53 <x3mboy> Justin put an email about where we are now
16:10:07 <x3mboy> I think is worth reading
16:10:19 <x3mboy> I have no much comments specifically on this
16:10:36 * nasirhm is going through it
16:11:01 <nasirhm> jwf++
16:11:04 <x3mboy> Ok, we'll wait for your comments
16:11:25 <x3mboy> But, basically everything in there is on issues, so we can work on the points and track them
16:11:51 <x3mboy> The most interesting part it's that we have a Roadmap
16:11:54 <x3mboy> #link https://pagure.io/i3-sig/Fedora-i3-Spin/roadmap
16:12:06 <x3mboy> That will help us to track progress until the Release
16:12:39 <nasirhm> I've got no comments on the ml thread too..
16:12:55 <nasirhm> WOW, the Roadmap looks pretty cool
16:12:59 <x3mboy> Ok, let's move
16:13:13 <x3mboy> #topic Releng needs a PR to https://pagure.io/fedora-kickstarts
16:13:22 <x3mboy> I think we have a issue for working on that
16:13:30 <x3mboy> But not sure
16:13:33 <x3mboy> Let me check
16:13:51 <x3mboy> Yes, there is one
16:13:55 <x3mboy> #link https://pagure.io/i3-sig/Fedora-i3-Spin/issue/29
16:14:05 <x3mboy> So, nasirhm you want to take this one, right?
16:14:17 <nasirhm> Sure. I would like to work on it.
16:15:10 <x3mboy> Ok, now it's assigned
16:15:21 <nasirhm> Thank You
16:15:35 <x3mboy> I think the problem is that documentation is not so good, so you need to talk with releng
16:15:52 <x3mboy> There are several tips/links on the issue
16:16:09 <x3mboy> So, let's move on
16:16:15 <x3mboy> #topin Content for Fedora Spins' website
16:16:34 <x3mboy> This is splitted in 2 tickets, that I think we need to decide if we can close them
16:16:37 <nasirhm> Sure.
16:16:59 <x3mboy> #link https://pagure.io/i3-sig/Fedora-i3-Spin/issue/31
16:17:08 <x3mboy> #link https://pagure.io/i3-sig/Fedora-i3-Spin/issue/30
16:17:40 <x3mboy> The elevator pitch written by semioticrobotic is really good
16:18:12 <x3mboy> I made some adjustment because I want to avoid the use of the word "Desktop", since tiling window managers don't follow the Desktop Metaphor
16:18:29 <x3mboy> Please take a look to the text and vote on the issue
16:19:02 <nasirhm> ++ to not use the keyword: `desktop`
16:19:28 <fedi3bridgerbot1> <j​wflory> /me starts reading backlog 👀
16:19:49 <nasirhm> Welcome @jwflory 👋
16:20:17 <x3mboy> We will wait for you, we haven't advanced too much
16:20:30 <x3mboy> #chair jwf
16:20:30 <zodbot> Current chairs: defolos jwf nasirhm x3mboy
16:20:44 <x3mboy> #chair jwflory
16:20:44 <zodbot> Current chairs: defolos jwf jwflory nasirhm x3mboy
16:21:19 <x3mboy> Well, element is being rude with your nick
16:21:21 <x3mboy> :S
16:21:40 <nasirhm> :P 🤣
16:22:45 <fedi3bridgerbot1> <j​wflory> OK! I am caught up :)
16:23:09 <fedi3bridgerbot1> <j​wflory> The RelEng changes will be interesting. Keep us in the loop on how that goes nasirhm, I am curious too!
16:23:36 <x3mboy> Ok, so moving from the text, we will have the screenshots now
16:23:48 <fedi3bridgerbot1> <j​wflory> re: Fedora Spins site. Anyone looked at the screenshots from @aashu_x yet?
16:23:58 <x3mboy> I already linked issue 30
16:23:59 <nasirhm> @jwflory, Sure :)
16:24:02 <x3mboy> And they look great
16:24:07 <fedi3bridgerbot1> <j​wflory> Should we pass this over to the Websites Team now?
16:24:17 <fedi3bridgerbot1> <j​wflory> We can just reference the images uploaded there in the websites repo ticket
16:24:37 <x3mboy> @jwflory, I think yes, we can vote here and then just put them there
16:24:41 <x3mboy> I'm +1
16:25:04 <nasirhm> +1
16:25:04 <x3mboy> I still think we should ship a white on black terminal, but defaults are defaults
16:25:12 <fedi3bridgerbot1> <j​wflory> +1 from me :) I feel good knowing they also came from our WIP official ISO
16:25:38 <fedi3bridgerbot1> <j​wflory> x3mboy: I agree too on white-on-black – maybe a follow-up for F35 ;)
16:25:49 <x3mboy> Oh BTW the coloring link you share it's awesome @jwflory
16:25:56 <fedi3bridgerbot1> <j​wflory> Right?!?
16:26:00 <nasirhm> x3mboy: It could be possible but we'll only be able to do it for the Live Environment, or else we would have to modify the package.
16:26:08 <x3mboy> And knowing the fedora palette of colors My i3 looks more fedorian now!
16:26:55 <x3mboy> nasirhm: I know, we should stick with the default and then everyone can customize
16:27:02 <x3mboy> Back on topic
16:27:15 <x3mboy> So we agreed both text and screenshots for the website?
16:27:23 * jwf switches from Telegram to IRC
16:27:25 <jwf> (I think there is a small delay on messages from IRC going to Telegram…)
16:27:31 <jwf> Oh let me look at the elevator pitch too really quick
16:28:05 <nasirhm> Yep :)
16:28:09 <jwf> +1 tagline: "The Fedora operating system experience featuring a tiling window manager"
16:28:35 <jwf> And +1 to the pitch :)
16:28:39 <jwf> It all looks good to me!
16:29:42 <x3mboy> #agreed Pitch, tagline and screenshots for the website are approve to move to the website issue
16:30:34 <x3mboy> defolos:  didn't vote, but he's busy and he trust in us
16:31:09 <x3mboy> #topic Ticket triage
16:31:21 <x3mboy> #link https://pagure.io/i3-sig/Fedora-i3-Spin/issues
16:31:54 <x3mboy> From biggest to smallest we have #34
16:32:05 <x3mboy> #link https://pagure.io/i3-sig/Fedora-i3-Spin/issue/34
16:32:33 <x3mboy> I'm agree with the change to rawhide
16:33:08 <jwf> `rawhide` actually does make sense to me, in this case. It is Fedora-specific but it is very clear about expectations for when changes to the kickstarts will appear in the next compose of the spin
16:33:20 <jwf> * next compose of all spins
16:33:39 <jwf> +1 rawhide
16:34:07 <nasirhm> +1 rawhide, +1 main.
16:34:18 <x3mboy> defolos:  agreed with rawhide in the issue, so
16:34:34 <x3mboy> #agreed Rename master branch to rawhide
16:34:38 <jwf> We can give odilhao a chance to weigh in, but it seems fairly noncontroversial :)
16:34:51 <jwf> We just have to update our local git repos after the move
16:34:57 <jwf> I can take that action for today
16:34:59 <x3mboy> Oh, odilhao
16:35:20 <x3mboy> #action jwf to rename the master branch
16:35:25 <jwf> #action jwf Change default git branch from `master` to `rawhide` for pagure.io/i3-sig/Fedora-i3-Spin
16:35:30 <jwf> Oh hah jinx!
16:35:35 <x3mboy> And I forgot
16:35:37 <nasirhm> jwf++
16:35:38 <nasirhm> #undo
16:35:38 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: ACTION by jwf at 16:35:25 : jwf Change default git branch from `master` to `rawhide` for pagure.io/i3-sig/Fedora-i3-Spin
16:35:42 * odilhao reading the messages
16:35:55 * nasirhm waves to @odilhao
16:36:03 <x3mboy> #action nasirhm  to work on the kickstart file with releng
16:36:12 <x3mboy> #chair odilhao
16:36:12 <zodbot> Current chairs: defolos jwf jwflory nasirhm odilhao x3mboy
16:37:02 <x3mboy> odilhao: o/
16:37:19 <odilhao> +1 to rename it to rawhide
16:38:41 <odilhao> should we add the docs as well on this issue?
16:38:59 <jwf> Yeah, I can do both repos
16:39:19 <jwf> For docs, I will do `main` just because that is the Fedora Docs standard for new repos once Pagure switches over
16:39:46 <nasirhm> +1 for `rawhide` for spin and `main` for docs.
16:40:08 <jwf> I think we are good to move ahead on this one
16:40:25 <jwf> x3mboy: Any other tickets of noteworthiness to discuss during ticket triage?
16:40:34 <x3mboy> 2
16:40:51 <x3mboy> #link https://pagure.io/i3-sig/Fedora-i3-Spin/issue/33
16:41:10 <x3mboy> Someone figured out where this bug is coming from?
16:41:20 <defolos> nope, haven't looked yet
16:41:23 <x3mboy> I think is the i3-wizzard thing
16:41:31 <nasirhm> defolos:
16:41:36 <x3mboy> But can't really say
16:41:57 <nasirhm> x3mboy: Yep, It's the `wizard` and only occurs when i3 is fresh installed.
16:42:42 <x3mboy> Yeap, and also occurs installing i3 separate (in another DE)
16:42:52 <x3mboy> Confirmed, so how we will work on that?
16:43:13 <nasirhm> defolos: Do we have any patches included when we package i3 ?
16:43:36 <jwf> Hah, I guess it would take building an i3 Spin to find this bug in Fedora
16:43:36 <defolos> no
16:43:38 <nasirhm> Here's the bug on Bugzilla: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1908152
16:43:57 <nasirhm> jwf: 😆
16:44:09 <x3mboy> I think is a simple move, not sure how it worked before, but I have one on $mod+d and the other on $mod
16:44:16 <x3mboy> * I think is a simple move, not sure how it worked before, but I have one on $mod+d and the other on $mod+Shift*d
16:44:42 <nasirhm> defolos: It could be upstream, Are there any minor updates from upstream ?
16:45:48 <x3mboy> <jwf "Hah, I guess it would take build"> And I think it's not only on fedora, but I can't tell
16:46:16 <defolos> nasirhm: no, i3 is up to date
16:46:17 <x3mboy> Ok, so the plan is to patch it and submit the patch upstream?
16:47:07 <jwf> Do we have an champion to take this fix upstream? :)
16:47:42 <nasirhm> I can try pulling it and compiling it locally to make sure it's an upstream issue.
16:47:56 <nasirhm> and can report it afterwards.
16:48:35 <defolos> https://github.com/i3/i3/issues/4304
16:48:36 <defolos> found it
16:48:44 <defolos> there's a patch
16:49:04 <x3mboy> Excellent!
16:49:04 <defolos> I'll cherry pick it and then this will be fixed
16:49:10 <x3mboy> defolos++
16:49:14 <x3mboy> defolos++
16:49:31 <jwf> defolos++
16:49:34 <nasirhm> defolos++ :)
16:49:53 <x3mboy> #action defolos to cerry pick the patch for #33 and fix it
16:49:53 <jwf> This is one of those times where I am thinking, "git is awesome"
16:50:24 <x3mboy> Ok
16:50:36 <nasirhm> Linus ++ for creating Git 🌟
16:50:36 <x3mboy> Moving on
16:50:42 <x3mboy> #link https://pagure.io/i3-sig/Fedora-i3-Spin/issue/32
16:51:16 <x3mboy> My thinking when I create this ticket was that we need to provide guidance to newcomers
16:51:27 <x3mboy> Power users normally help themselves
16:51:49 <nasirhm> ++ to jwf's comment for F35
16:51:50 <x3mboy> I wasn't thinking in maintaining an application
16:52:02 <x3mboy> And I didn't take a look around
16:52:19 <x3mboy> But as suggested by defolos I was looking what were out ther
16:52:57 <x3mboy> And found regolith-linux, that it was part of the inspiration for the spin (at the very beginning at least)
16:53:12 <x3mboy> #link https://regolith-linux.org/screenshot-remontoire_hu0072e1a729bbceaae2457311ea01b479_3441088_636x0_resize_catmullrom_2.png
16:53:19 <x3mboy> They have this "menu"
16:54:04 <x3mboy> That makes me remember that Unity had something similar
16:54:43 <x3mboy> Where a keystroke launches a cheat sheet of keyboard shortcuts
16:55:01 <x3mboy> So, not sure if we should take this one, or leave it to research
16:55:39 <jwf> #idea Keystroke launching a cheatsheet of keyboard shortcuts
16:55:45 <jwf> x3mboy: Honestly I am OK leaving this one to research
16:55:49 <x3mboy> * #link https://regolith-linux.org/screenshot-remontoire.png
16:55:54 <jwf> It is a really cool idea! But I think it is a back-burner project for now
16:55:58 <x3mboy> Me too
16:56:05 <defolos> leave it on research for now
16:56:16 <defolos> we can do something with that once we have an MVP out
16:56:23 <jwf> defolos: Was about to say the same :)
16:56:26 <nasirhm> ++ to have it on research.
16:56:56 <x3mboy> Ok
16:56:59 <jwf> BTW, I have to jump for another work call now, sorry! But I wanted to share this article I saw floated in Telegram.
16:57:03 <jwf> For the Spanish speakers: https://www.muylinux.com/2021/01/18/fedora-spin-i3-silverblue-kinoite-kde-plasma/
16:57:14 <x3mboy> #agreed to put #32 on hold to research
16:57:23 <jwf> Have a good morning/afternoon/evening all :) Stay safe!
16:57:23 <x3mboy> #link https://github.com/regolith-linux/remontoire
16:57:34 <nasirhm> jwf: Thank You for joining today :)
16:57:45 <x3mboy> #topic Open Floor
16:58:10 <x3mboy> jwf: Thanks for coming
16:58:18 <x3mboy> Anyone have something for open floor?
16:59:41 <nasirhm> Nothing from my side.
16:59:49 <nasirhm> Thank you for chairing x3mboy
16:59:58 <x3mboy> I have something
16:59:59 <x3mboy> :D
17:00:03 <x3mboy> Sorry, really quick
17:00:24 <x3mboy> One of (Or the main) developer for regolith linux contact us via email
17:01:18 <x3mboy> @defolos answer his questions and I think it could be interesting to keep this contact
17:01:35 <x3mboy> Since it's a great project and have several stuff that we can "borrow"
17:01:43 <x3mboy> Like remontoire
17:02:24 <nasirhm> It'll be a good idea, we can fork (after license assurance) it under i3-sig and modify and package according to i3.
17:02:28 <x3mboy> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/i3wm@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/XQ3T5XCJ5KCLUT6QTSXINXMGKBNPJM4I/
17:02:48 <x3mboy> I recommend to take a look and say hi
17:02:49 <x3mboy> :D
17:02:50 <defolos> please no forking if possible
17:03:01 <x3mboy> No, no forking
17:03:24 <x3mboy> I think we can just take the code of remontoire and just package it (if that's what we are going to use)
17:03:52 <defolos> 👍️
17:04:12 <nasirhm> <x3mboy "I think we can just take the cod"> oops, my bad. I thought regolith is different than i3.
17:04:32 <x3mboy> regolith is a linux distro using i3
17:04:33 <x3mboy> :D
17:04:38 <nasirhm> We'll be good to with alot of regolith maintained apps and can have them on the spin by packaging it.
17:04:41 <x3mboy> Well, that's all for today
17:04:50 <x3mboy> Thanks all for coming
17:04:59 * nasirhm > <@x3mboy:matrix.org> regolith is a linux distro using i3
17:05:00 * nasirhm is a little sleepy 😪
17:05:02 <x3mboy> And have a nice day and 2 more week until next meeting
17:05:04 <x3mboy> See ya!
17:05:25 <nasirhm> Have a Great week ahead everyone, Thank you for coming today.
17:05:47 <x3mboy> #endmeeting