18:59:59 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2013-06-06)
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18:59:59 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure
18:59:59 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure'
19:00:00 <nirik> #topic welcome y'all
19:00:00 <nirik> #chair smooge skvidal CodeBlock ricky nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch threebean
19:00:00 <zodbot> Current chairs: CodeBlock abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik ricky skvidal smooge threebean
19:00:17 * abadger1999 here
19:00:19 * lmacken 
19:00:22 * skvidal is here
19:00:25 <oddshocks> ack
19:00:31 * framew0rk here
19:00:32 <kc4zvw> is here
19:00:50 * pvod here
19:01:03 * pingou here
19:01:07 <smooge> here
19:01:27 <nirik> morning everyone. ;)
19:01:38 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks
19:01:44 * mdomsch 
19:01:49 * puiterwijk here
19:01:56 <nirik> any new folks like to introduce themselves? or apprentices witch questions ?
19:02:14 <mtsil> me
19:02:24 * threebean is here a little late
19:02:48 <nirik> welcome mtsil. Can you provide a short bio/background and if you are interested in sysadmin or application devel type things? ;)
19:02:53 * bitlord here (watching)
19:03:44 <mtsil> hi folks, my name is Matheus Silva, I am just another RHCSA guy wanting learn more about the project and sysadmin
19:04:25 <nirik> excellent. Welcome. see me in #fedora-admin after the meeting and I can see about getting you started.
19:04:38 <framew0rk> quick question re: apprentice group
19:04:40 <mtsil> ok, thanks nirik
19:04:46 <nirik> framew0rk: fire away. ;)
19:05:05 <framew0rk> how do i get a public key to ssh in? i am just now getting around to using my membership :)
19:05:25 <nirik> framew0rk: hang on, there's a guide on our wiki...
19:05:39 <bitlord> framew0rk, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cryptography#Creating_SSH_Keys
19:05:51 <nirik> yeah, that one. ;) bitlord is faster than I.
19:06:12 <framew0rk> thanks guys :)
19:06:22 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion
19:06:29 <nirik> any applications news this week?
19:06:34 <nirik> I have one bit...
19:06:44 <nirik> #info geoip service moved to production.
19:06:54 <nirik> thanks for mdomsch for working on that geoip stuff. ;)
19:07:09 <mdomsch> happy to.  Thanks for cleaning up the mess I left it in.
19:07:17 <oddshocks> Badges/Tahrir work is progressing
19:07:29 <mdomsch> #info Fedora content dropped from S3 mirrors
19:07:34 * pingou worked more on fedocal and provided a couple of patches to packages and datagrepper
19:07:38 <mdomsch> #info EPEL remains
19:08:16 <mdomsch> we didn't have enough users of Fedora in EC2 to justify continually pushing Fedora content into each of the S3 regions
19:08:29 * nirik nods.
19:08:49 <nirik> So final freeze is not starting next week, but the week after. Do we have anything we want to get in before final freeze?
19:08:53 <smooge> all the regions or just a couple?
19:09:06 <mdomsch> smooge: all regions
19:09:13 <smooge> ok np
19:09:14 <nirik> As usual I'd like to get things so we drop all the hotfixes we are carrying, but not sure how practical that is.
19:10:10 <threebean> On getting stuff ready before the freeze, having the badges machines ready would be nice -- nirik has already been asking about details for that in #fedora-apps.
19:10:31 <nirik> yeah, I am hoping to have those before too long.
19:10:40 * threebean nods
19:10:52 <nirik> we will need to work through some workflow with ansible and staging, as I would like to make them in ansible instead of puppet if possible
19:10:52 <threebean> not as much of a rush as I'd thought.  Sorry for that false alarm.  ;)
19:11:02 <threebean> +1
19:11:10 <skvidal> nirik: post-meeting let's talk staging
19:11:19 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/15
19:11:22 <skvidal> to see what needs to happen for that happiness
19:11:29 <nirik> (that is the list of current hotfixes)
19:11:30 <threebean> nirik, skvidal: thanks both.
19:11:31 <nirik> skvidal: sounds good.
19:12:31 <nirik> anything else on the application side of things?
19:13:31 <nirik> #topic Sysadmin status / discussion
19:13:44 <nirik> #info lots of ansible work in progress, check the git repo for details
19:13:44 <skvidal> lots of ansible ports this week
19:13:45 <skvidal> lots and lots
19:13:47 <nirik> :)
19:14:03 <skvidal> tested fireball mode
19:14:10 <threebean> skvidal is on fire!
19:14:10 <skvidal> other minor things
19:14:21 <skvidal> mostly just playing with the mirrorlist stuff
19:14:28 <skvidal> which has allowed porting a ton of stuff over
19:14:31 <nirik> skvidal: how far are we from the hook to do playbook runs? we should try and get that before long so more folks can work on converting things.
19:14:50 <skvidal> nirik: I agree
19:15:01 <nirik> #info revamped our sign-vault machines this week (not a very visible change, but needed)
19:15:02 <skvidal> we're going to get a lot of bogon runs when we touch stuff in tasks, of course
19:15:06 <nirik> yeah.
19:15:21 <skvidal> and I was kinda delaying on purpose
19:15:27 <skvidal> b/c I wanted to talk to some people at ansiblefest next week
19:15:44 <skvidal> to see if there are other more graceful solutions that I just haven't read about
19:15:57 <skvidal> is that silly?
19:16:04 <nirik> not at all. completely fair.
19:16:17 <nirik> do you know if any of the ansiblefest stuff will be online?
19:16:38 <skvidal> I dont think so
19:16:42 <skvidal> maybe I'll sneak in a camera
19:16:50 <nirik> #info our koji data sync has completed it's first 2 passes to netapp... 3rd in progress.
19:17:55 <nirik> #info we have an outage scheduled for monday for mass rebooting.
19:18:15 <smooge> wear your google glasses
19:18:51 <skvidal> hah
19:19:07 <nirik> indeed.
19:19:29 <nirik> #info still need to write up/implement new backup plan.
19:19:48 <nirik> any other sysadmin items?
19:20:36 <nirik> #topic Private Cloud status update / discussion
19:20:43 <nirik> not much to report here again I don't think...
19:20:53 <nirik> people are using the cloud and it's working along ok for now.
19:21:02 <skvidal> on the minus side
19:21:17 <skvidal> we've had it explained that all of our assumptions are wrong
19:21:22 <skvidal> and we have to rebuild it eventually
19:21:54 <nirik> yeah, I still want to rebuild 01/03 nodes with the next version and done more like "they" want us to.
19:22:04 <nirik> but thats a good thing for when we are in freeze. ;)
19:22:25 <smooge> oh dear
19:22:30 <skvidal> nirik: +1
19:22:31 <smooge> that sounds like an entire session of flock
19:22:42 <skvidal> smooge: let's put it this way
19:22:56 <skvidal> smooge: there are a lot of...... perspectives that the openstack devels have
19:23:00 <smooge> cloud putting the F in Flock
19:23:02 <skvidal> that are not the most obvious choices
19:23:09 <skvidal> at least from my perspective
19:23:16 <smooge> i don't doubt.
19:23:42 <nirik> yeah.
19:24:01 <skvidal> like 'quotas should work'
19:24:05 <nirik> I think over time they are adding things that everyday sysadmins would want to do, but there's still a lot of weird assumptions, IMHO
19:24:09 <skvidal> or 'failing commands should tell you something about it'
19:24:19 <nirik> or 'you should be able to change your password'
19:24:20 <skvidal> like that they failed, at all
19:24:54 <skvidal> or 'setting quotas in one place should, theoretically, impact the rest of the places using that quota'
19:25:03 <nirik> anyhow, we will continue to push for our uses and hopefully make things better. ;)
19:25:06 <smooge> it is only counted a failure if the command crashed. otherwise the command did execute to the best of its ability and left without a coredump
19:25:06 <skvidal> indeed
19:25:22 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items
19:25:28 <nirik> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/
19:25:36 * skvidal looks
19:25:37 <nirik> I finally did fill this in more. :)
19:25:51 <skvidal> it's nice
19:25:53 <skvidal> lovely
19:25:58 <nirik> anything anyone would like to note or plan for?
19:26:00 <skvidal> hmm
19:26:06 <skvidal> how come our reboot-a-thon isn't on there?
19:26:20 <nirik> I should add it, also to the outage one. ;)
19:26:31 * skvidal checks if he has the outage one on his list
19:28:18 <nirik> added to both
19:28:26 <nirik> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure-outages/
19:28:30 <nirik> is the outage one
19:29:00 <nirik> we may schedule a outage to move koji storage before final freeze, not sure yet...
19:29:37 <nirik> #topic Flock
19:29:49 <nirik> voting for flock talks is open... everyone should go vote. ;)
19:30:17 <nirik> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/flock-2013
19:30:58 <nirik> Do we want to do any more planning for flock? I'm sure we will gather and discuss various things, but is there specific things we want to try and do/plan?
19:31:15 <nirik> it's still a ways out, but something to think about.
19:32:00 * abadger1999 thinks he'll have too little infra time to do much :-( -- have python sig and fesco stuff to work on
19:32:36 <nirik> yeah, it's always easy to get pulled in several directions.
19:32:50 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
19:33:03 <abadger1999> But if some of that doesn't happen -- there's a lot of discussions to be had around auth in the next year.
19:33:04 <nirik> Anyone have anything for open floor? general comments, questions, observations?
19:33:26 <nirik> abadger1999: yeah, I'd like to talk oauth for sure... try and hash out how best to use it.
19:33:36 <smooge> rebuild devel and staging of flock onto the Clooooud <cloud, cloud, cloud> should be a flock thing
19:35:16 <nirik> all cloud all the time. ;)
19:35:34 <nirik> ok, if nothing else will close out the meeting in a minute or two
19:35:37 <skvidal> though  to be fair
19:35:49 <skvidal> I would like to see all of our dev instances diaf
19:35:53 <skvidal> and move to the cloud space
19:36:14 <skvidal> only b/c it feels like they'd be better off there
19:36:22 <mdomsch> If I get some time next week before freeze, I may finish up MM 1.4.  No promises, but I can wish...
19:36:27 <nirik> yeah, dev seems like a great fit for cloud...
19:37:05 <smooge> mdomsch wishes cann come true
19:37:06 <nirik> mdomsch: that would be great.
19:37:35 <skvidal> mdomsch: so - not sure if it matters to you - but with the mirrorlist boxes split out
19:37:52 <skvidal> mdomsch: testing out a box should involve less 'where is all this crap' than it does now
19:37:58 <skvidal> or 'is this other app molesting mm'
19:39:03 <nirik> ok, thanks for coming everyone. Do continue in #fedora-admin, #fedora-apps and #fedora-noc.
19:39:03 <nirik> #endmeeting