19:00:33 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2013-07-18)
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19:00:34 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure
19:00:34 <nirik> #topic welcome y'all
19:00:34 <nirik> #chair smooge relrod nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch threebean pingou puiterwijk
19:00:34 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure'
19:00:34 <zodbot> Current chairs: abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik pingou puiterwijk relrod smooge threebean
19:00:48 * mdomsch ducks out to run a staff meeting
19:00:55 <mirek-hm> is here
19:00:57 * relrod here
19:00:59 * lmacken 
19:01:05 * sheap is here! (woooo finally)
19:01:09 * threebean is here
19:01:13 <threebean> sheap: hi there! :)
19:01:19 * willo is here
19:01:39 <sheap> threebean: hello! :D
19:02:13 * abadger1999 is here
19:02:39 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks
19:02:40 * dgilmore is here
19:02:46 <dgilmore> but has to run soon for a bit
19:02:53 <nirik> any new folks like to introduce themselves? or apprentices with questions or comments?
19:03:05 <willo> Yep
19:03:06 * croberts is here
19:03:58 <willo> Hi, I'm new.  Sent my intro to mailling list the other day
19:04:06 <nirik> hey willo. Welcome!
19:04:37 <willo> hey
19:04:45 <nirik> were you more interested in sysadmin or development?
19:04:48 * nirik looks back for the email
19:05:09 <willo> a little from column a and a little from column b
19:05:17 <willo> stronger on sysadmin
19:05:30 <willo> want to learn more about development
19:05:36 <nirik> excellent. ;)
19:05:46 <willo> :)
19:05:57 <nirik> see me in #fedora-admin after the meeting and i can get you added to our apprentice group, and see #fedora-apps for development pointers. ;)
19:06:11 <willo> Great thanks
19:06:51 <nirik> cool. welcome again, do feel free to chime in with questions anytime.
19:06:54 <threebean> willo: you might ping lmacken in either channel too if you're interested in IDS
19:06:57 * threebean saw that in the email
19:07:13 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion
19:07:14 <willo> ok, will do
19:07:36 <nirik> any application news this week or upcoming?
19:07:59 <mirek-hm> I deployed new version of copr - but it is just bugfixes, no new features
19:08:05 <nirik> as an overlap with sysadmin, I am working on moving ask.fedoraproject.org over to ansible. :) Once I get stg working ok I will do production
19:09:03 <threebean> we accumulated a bunch of fixes/changes in our apps over the F20 release process and I think we're due for a fresh release of 5-10 new apps in the coming weeks.
19:09:10 <nirik> I know we have a bunch of stuff that will be rolling out over the next few weeks...
19:09:11 <nirik> yeah.
19:09:18 <threebean> pingou has fedocal, nuancier, pkgdb2, and others
19:09:40 <threebean> i'm looking at updating datagrepper and fedora-packages.  also pushing fmn to production.
19:10:00 <nirik> one thing: if folks could look and make sure we rolled in any hotfixes we were carrying into new releases that would be great. Would be good to reduce the number of those.
19:10:02 <threebean> not sure if any of that will be done before next meeting, but I guess I'm hoping its all done before the end of january.
19:10:13 * threebean nods
19:10:35 <nirik> yeah, if we could get things all rolled out, we might be somewhat ready for the storm of work for fedora.next. ;)
19:10:57 <threebean> :P
19:11:22 <nirik> mirek-hm: did you have any chance to look at that ansible openstack stuff?
19:11:39 <mirek-hm> nirik: unfortunatelly no :(
19:11:44 <nirik> ok, no worries.
19:11:55 <nirik> It's still on my list if I can get to it too.
19:12:11 <nirik> ok, anything else application wise?
19:12:32 <nirik> #topic Sysadmin status / discussion
19:12:41 <threebean> lots of little things :)
19:12:59 <nirik> on the sysadmin side I have been focusing on ansible cleanup and working on cron job, etc.
19:13:18 <nirik> we are still in a holding pattern on new machines, hopefully they will get ordered soon.
19:13:53 <nirik> I posted to the list on ansible... if folks would reply about which way they think we should run automated runs of ansible that would be good.
19:15:03 <nirik> oh, later today I might update all machines (but not reboot), there's a number of small security updates pending.
19:15:52 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items
19:15:53 <nirik> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/
19:16:01 <nirik> not too much on the schedule yet...
19:16:08 <nirik> is there anything anyone would like to schedule or note?
19:16:35 <threebean> no, just all those application releases -- but they don't have definite dates yet.
19:16:48 <nirik> yeah.
19:17:30 <nirik> one thing: I'd really like to try and do a FAD this year... flock is likely to be in the fall, so we might want to look at early in the year for one.
19:17:42 <nirik> we just need to pick a topic and figure out people and where and such
19:18:18 <threebean> heh, yeah.  lots to do :)
19:18:24 <sheap> that sounds fun(:
19:18:36 * willo noticed that there hasn't been a FAD in Australia for a while
19:18:39 <nirik> If I can get far enough with ansible, we could do one to finish that and retire puppet.
19:18:41 <willo> ;)
19:18:45 <nirik> heh. ;)
19:18:55 <nirik> or one on logging might be good.
19:18:59 <threebean> yeah, retiring puppet would be a good one.
19:19:13 <nirik> or cloud stuff
19:19:17 <threebean> bodhi2 and fas3 are also big ones
19:19:24 <nirik> yep.
19:19:29 <willo> Curious, why the change to ansible.
19:19:31 <threebean> (on the dev side)
19:19:55 <willo> Is there a specific time on mailling list or wiki page about the change?
19:20:33 <nirik> willo: various reasons. ;) We are primarilly a python shop, so having to install ruby everywhere is anoying. Puppet has compat issues between versions thats bit us in the past.
19:20:45 <nirik> willo: yeah I can dig up some discussion after the meeting probibly.
19:20:56 <willo> nirik: thanks
19:20:58 <nirik> ansible also already has replaced func for us.
19:22:06 <willo> python is my weapon of choice as well, so sweet
19:22:43 <nirik> it's a pretty large undertaking tho, as we had everything in puppet.
19:23:18 <nirik> but we are making progress. ;)
19:23:30 <willo> :)
19:23:59 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
19:24:04 <nirik> anyone have items for open floor?
19:24:10 * relrod has one thing:
19:24:17 <nirik> fire away. ;)
19:25:04 * willo also has one, when relrod has finished
19:25:08 <relrod> Before break (at our last meeting) I asked about enabling gzip compression on the apps.fp.o subdomain. It's been on in staging since before Christmas with no problems that I am aware -- so I was wondering what people thought about moving that to production
19:25:42 <nirik> relrod: fine with me, roll it out, but be ready to roll back if there's problems.
19:25:47 <relrod> Issues in the past with gzip were double-encoding on .tar.gz files, but we don't serve those from apps.fp.o, so there should be no issue there
19:26:03 <nirik> yeah, I think it should be good.
19:26:55 <relrod> ok, that's all I have
19:27:01 <threebean> cool :)
19:27:11 <willo> I saw a post on ask.fp.o about where to post bugs about ask.fp.o
19:27:14 <nirik> relrod: thanks.
19:27:20 <willo> https://ask.fedoraproject.org/question/38529/where-can-i-post-bugs-for-askfedoraprojectorg/
19:27:31 <nirik> willo: good question. ;)
19:27:47 <nirik> we could ask them to file in infrastructure trac I guess... or askbot in bugzilla.
19:28:08 <nirik> I guess it depends on if it's something to do with our instance only, or a generic issue with the upstream application
19:28:08 <willo> Yep, I guessed that and someone else did
19:28:30 <willo> I also comment on the question as well
19:28:34 <nirik> I have actually been working on that.
19:28:49 <nirik> the feedback and such. hopefully it will be fixed in the new version if I can ever get it deployed.
19:28:59 <willo> I saw that on trac.  It's just last update was 3 months ago
19:29:08 <willo> Cool
19:29:14 <nirik> yeah, it's been pending a long time sadly.
19:29:30 <nirik> upstream made a bunch of changes with the latest version, it took a while to get it packaged.
19:29:37 <nirik> and work out the issues. ;(
19:30:33 <nirik> also, it would be nice if there were people more involved in it.
19:30:52 <nirik> this is another case of a thing we deployed where all the orig people who worked on it wandered off
19:31:08 * nirik grumbles.
19:31:08 <willo> I might be able to help
19:31:33 <willo> Testing stuff and the like
19:31:50 <nirik> cool.
19:32:40 <willo> That was it for me
19:32:43 <nirik> willo: if you're around later once I get ask.stg working you could test it out, that would be great.
19:33:12 <willo> nirik: later today or later later?
19:33:40 <nirik> well, not sure. ;) It's currently not working, if I can get it easily working, later today, if not early next week. ;)
19:34:27 <willo> I've got to go to work, but this afternoon (for me that is), sure
19:34:37 <nirik> no worries. can let you know.
19:34:43 <nirik> anything else for open floor?
19:34:52 <willo> nirik: ok, later, next week .  No problem
19:35:15 <nirik> ok, will close out the meeting in a minute if nothing more.
19:35:39 <sheap> nirik: would you need any help on that upgrade stuff?
19:36:24 <nirik> sheap: sure, testing to make sure all is ok after I apply would be cool. I could show you our rube setup. ;)
19:36:52 <sheap> nirik: okay cool!
19:37:00 <nirik> we can coordinate in #fedora-admin or #fedora-noc.
19:37:05 <sheap> sounds good
19:37:46 <nirik> great. ;)
19:37:50 <nirik> thanks for coming everyone!
19:37:52 <nirik> #endmeeting