19:00:33 #startmeeting Infrastructure (2013-07-18) 19:00:33 Meeting started Thu Jan 9 19:00:33 2014 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:00:33 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 19:00:34 #meetingname infrastructure 19:00:34 #topic welcome y'all 19:00:34 #chair smooge relrod nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch threebean pingou puiterwijk 19:00:34 The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure' 19:00:34 Current chairs: abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik pingou puiterwijk relrod smooge threebean 19:00:48 * mdomsch ducks out to run a staff meeting 19:00:55 is here 19:00:57 * relrod here 19:00:59 * lmacken 19:01:05 * sheap is here! (woooo finally) 19:01:09 * threebean is here 19:01:13 sheap: hi there! :) 19:01:19 * willo is here 19:01:39 threebean: hello! :D 19:02:13 * abadger1999 is here 19:02:39 #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks 19:02:40 * dgilmore is here 19:02:46 but has to run soon for a bit 19:02:53 any new folks like to introduce themselves? or apprentices with questions or comments? 19:03:05 Yep 19:03:06 * croberts is here 19:03:58 Hi, I'm new. Sent my intro to mailling list the other day 19:04:06 hey willo. Welcome! 19:04:37 hey 19:04:45 were you more interested in sysadmin or development? 19:04:48 * nirik looks back for the email 19:05:09 a little from column a and a little from column b 19:05:17 stronger on sysadmin 19:05:30 want to learn more about development 19:05:36 excellent. ;) 19:05:46 :) 19:05:57 see me in #fedora-admin after the meeting and i can get you added to our apprentice group, and see #fedora-apps for development pointers. ;) 19:06:11 Great thanks 19:06:51 cool. welcome again, do feel free to chime in with questions anytime. 19:06:54 willo: you might ping lmacken in either channel too if you're interested in IDS 19:06:57 * threebean saw that in the email 19:07:13 #topic Applications status / discussion 19:07:14 ok, will do 19:07:36 any application news this week or upcoming? 19:07:59 I deployed new version of copr - but it is just bugfixes, no new features 19:08:05 as an overlap with sysadmin, I am working on moving ask.fedoraproject.org over to ansible. :) Once I get stg working ok I will do production 19:09:03 we accumulated a bunch of fixes/changes in our apps over the F20 release process and I think we're due for a fresh release of 5-10 new apps in the coming weeks. 19:09:10 I know we have a bunch of stuff that will be rolling out over the next few weeks... 19:09:11 yeah. 19:09:18 pingou has fedocal, nuancier, pkgdb2, and others 19:09:40 i'm looking at updating datagrepper and fedora-packages. also pushing fmn to production. 19:10:00 one thing: if folks could look and make sure we rolled in any hotfixes we were carrying into new releases that would be great. Would be good to reduce the number of those. 19:10:02 not sure if any of that will be done before next meeting, but I guess I'm hoping its all done before the end of january. 19:10:13 * threebean nods 19:10:35 yeah, if we could get things all rolled out, we might be somewhat ready for the storm of work for fedora.next. ;) 19:10:57 :P 19:11:22 mirek-hm: did you have any chance to look at that ansible openstack stuff? 19:11:39 nirik: unfortunatelly no :( 19:11:44 ok, no worries. 19:11:55 It's still on my list if I can get to it too. 19:12:11 ok, anything else application wise? 19:12:32 #topic Sysadmin status / discussion 19:12:41 lots of little things :) 19:12:59 on the sysadmin side I have been focusing on ansible cleanup and working on cron job, etc. 19:13:18 we are still in a holding pattern on new machines, hopefully they will get ordered soon. 19:13:53 I posted to the list on ansible... if folks would reply about which way they think we should run automated runs of ansible that would be good. 19:15:03 oh, later today I might update all machines (but not reboot), there's a number of small security updates pending. 19:15:52 #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items 19:15:53 https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/ 19:16:01 not too much on the schedule yet... 19:16:08 is there anything anyone would like to schedule or note? 19:16:35 no, just all those application releases -- but they don't have definite dates yet. 19:16:48 yeah. 19:17:30 one thing: I'd really like to try and do a FAD this year... flock is likely to be in the fall, so we might want to look at early in the year for one. 19:17:42 we just need to pick a topic and figure out people and where and such 19:18:18 heh, yeah. lots to do :) 19:18:24 that sounds fun(: 19:18:36 * willo noticed that there hasn't been a FAD in Australia for a while 19:18:39 If I can get far enough with ansible, we could do one to finish that and retire puppet. 19:18:41 ;) 19:18:45 heh. ;) 19:18:55 or one on logging might be good. 19:18:59 yeah, retiring puppet would be a good one. 19:19:13 or cloud stuff 19:19:17 bodhi2 and fas3 are also big ones 19:19:24 yep. 19:19:29 Curious, why the change to ansible. 19:19:31 (on the dev side) 19:19:55 Is there a specific time on mailling list or wiki page about the change? 19:20:33 willo: various reasons. ;) We are primarilly a python shop, so having to install ruby everywhere is anoying. Puppet has compat issues between versions thats bit us in the past. 19:20:45 willo: yeah I can dig up some discussion after the meeting probibly. 19:20:56 nirik: thanks 19:20:58 ansible also already has replaced func for us. 19:22:06 python is my weapon of choice as well, so sweet 19:22:43 it's a pretty large undertaking tho, as we had everything in puppet. 19:23:18 but we are making progress. ;) 19:23:30 :) 19:23:59 #topic Open Floor 19:24:04 anyone have items for open floor? 19:24:10 * relrod has one thing: 19:24:17 fire away. ;) 19:25:04 * willo also has one, when relrod has finished 19:25:08 Before break (at our last meeting) I asked about enabling gzip compression on the apps.fp.o subdomain. It's been on in staging since before Christmas with no problems that I am aware -- so I was wondering what people thought about moving that to production 19:25:42 relrod: fine with me, roll it out, but be ready to roll back if there's problems. 19:25:47 Issues in the past with gzip were double-encoding on .tar.gz files, but we don't serve those from apps.fp.o, so there should be no issue there 19:26:03 yeah, I think it should be good. 19:26:55 ok, that's all I have 19:27:01 cool :) 19:27:11 I saw a post on ask.fp.o about where to post bugs about ask.fp.o 19:27:14 relrod: thanks. 19:27:20 https://ask.fedoraproject.org/question/38529/where-can-i-post-bugs-for-askfedoraprojectorg/ 19:27:31 willo: good question. ;) 19:27:47 we could ask them to file in infrastructure trac I guess... or askbot in bugzilla. 19:28:08 I guess it depends on if it's something to do with our instance only, or a generic issue with the upstream application 19:28:08 Yep, I guessed that and someone else did 19:28:30 I also comment on the question as well 19:28:34 I have actually been working on that. 19:28:49 the feedback and such. hopefully it will be fixed in the new version if I can ever get it deployed. 19:28:59 I saw that on trac. It's just last update was 3 months ago 19:29:08 Cool 19:29:14 yeah, it's been pending a long time sadly. 19:29:30 upstream made a bunch of changes with the latest version, it took a while to get it packaged. 19:29:37 and work out the issues. ;( 19:30:33 also, it would be nice if there were people more involved in it. 19:30:52 this is another case of a thing we deployed where all the orig people who worked on it wandered off 19:31:08 * nirik grumbles. 19:31:08 I might be able to help 19:31:33 Testing stuff and the like 19:31:50 cool. 19:32:40 That was it for me 19:32:43 willo: if you're around later once I get ask.stg working you could test it out, that would be great. 19:33:12 nirik: later today or later later? 19:33:40 well, not sure. ;) It's currently not working, if I can get it easily working, later today, if not early next week. ;) 19:34:27 I've got to go to work, but this afternoon (for me that is), sure 19:34:37 no worries. can let you know. 19:34:43 anything else for open floor? 19:34:52 nirik: ok, later, next week . No problem 19:35:15 ok, will close out the meeting in a minute if nothing more. 19:35:39 nirik: would you need any help on that upgrade stuff? 19:36:24 sheap: sure, testing to make sure all is ok after I apply would be cool. I could show you our rube setup. ;) 19:36:52 nirik: okay cool! 19:37:00 we can coordinate in #fedora-admin or #fedora-noc. 19:37:05 sounds good 19:37:46 great. ;) 19:37:50 thanks for coming everyone! 19:37:52 #endmeeting