18:00:07 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2016-01-07)
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18:00:08 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure
18:00:08 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure'
18:00:08 <nirik> #topic aloha
18:00:08 <nirik> #chair smooge relrod nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch threebean pingou puiterwijk pbrobinson
18:00:08 <zodbot> Current chairs: abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik pbrobinson pingou puiterwijk relrod smooge threebean
18:00:08 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions / Apprentice feedback
18:01:14 <nirik> welcome everyone. Any new folks like to give a short one line introduction? Or any apprentices with questions or comments?
18:02:23 <nirik> I guess it will be a quick meeting if it's only me. ;)
18:02:28 <smooge> he
18:02:30 <smdeep> .hello smdeep
18:02:33 <zodbot> smdeep: smdeep 'Sudeep Mukherjee' <smdeep@gmail.com>
18:02:35 <smooge> I am in another meeting at the moment
18:02:40 <aldapetr> hi everyone :)
18:02:41 <aikidouke> ehlo
18:02:46 <smooge> so splitting time
18:02:53 <sayan> .hello sayanchowdhury
18:02:54 <zodbot> sayan: sayanchowdhury 'Sayan Chowdhury' <sayan.chowdhury2012@gmail.com>
18:03:13 <puiterwijk> hi
18:03:20 <smdeep> nirik, I am an appretince and i need a sometime to start contributing
18:05:05 <nirik> great. ;) feel free to ask questions here or in #fedora-admin/#fedora-apps/#fedora-noc...
18:05:05 <nirik> time is something we are all short of. ;(
18:05:25 <nirik> ok, if no new folks or questions, lets move on to status / info... hang on to your irc clients.... :)
18:05:36 <nirik> #topic announcements and information
18:05:37 <nirik> #info Smooge and Nirik in phx2 datacenter all next week - smooge / nirik
18:05:37 <nirik> #info Bunch of tech debt has been fought - see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Debt - everyone
18:05:37 <nirik> #info New OpenID login theme in staging, please test (prod on 15th) - puiterwijk
18:05:37 <nirik> #info January apprentice nag email out, please reply if you are an apprentice - kevin
18:06:07 <nirik> anything else folks would like to note or discuss more of the above?
18:06:35 <smooge> we will have short outages next week but probably nothing longer than 15-20 minutes
18:06:41 <aikidouke> yay for the technical debt fighters!
18:06:56 <puiterwijk> smooge: Well, I think cloud may be longer since I'm planning to do an update there as well
18:07:04 <nirik> smooge: yeah, I was going to send an email on that... we probibly need to schedule some of the outages we know about
18:07:21 <nirik> smooge / puiterwijk: when do you want to do the cloud stuff?
18:07:29 <smooge> wednesday?
18:07:33 <puiterwijk> Sure, fine with me
18:07:36 <smooge> or tuesday?
18:07:48 * kushal is also here
18:07:48 <subho> .hello subho
18:07:50 <zodbot> subho: subho 'None' <subho.prp@gmail.com>
18:08:06 <puiterwijk> Though I'll probably try to do the updates before., so we don't have to wait for that when you're onsite
18:08:15 <nirik> how about wed morning? 10am datacenter time?
18:08:25 <puiterwijk> Sure, sounds fine with me.
18:08:40 <puiterwijk> I'll do the updates at the usual time
18:08:47 <nirik> puiterwijk: can you write up an outage notice and send it?
18:08:55 <puiterwijk> nirik: yup, will do
18:08:57 <nirik> we will need to pull 01-08 out and add memory to each...
18:09:38 <puiterwijk> Sounds perfect. I'll handle the bringing up of openstack etc
18:09:58 <nirik> are you planning just a apply updates cycle? or is there an OS update in there too?
18:10:19 <puiterwijk> There's a bunch of openstack updates
18:10:25 <kushal> #info Rewritten darkserver is now getting tested on a cloud instance.
18:10:38 <nirik> kushal: great news. ;)
18:10:41 <puiterwijk> And I'm also going to try to get rid of the EPEL packages on those boxes
18:11:06 <puiterwijk> (there's still some left, but I got a set of packages that we can go back to that are in RHOSP
18:11:07 <puiterwijk> )
18:11:32 <nirik> puiterwijk: so, you want to start doing those updates at 10am? or you will have them done before and we can take down machines at 10am?
18:11:51 <kushal> nirik, so that we can finally move to el7 :)
18:11:58 <puiterwijk> nirik: I'm planning to start the updates at the nomrla time (2AM UTC), so that I'll be done before you guys get there
18:12:10 <nirik> ok.
18:12:19 <nirik> sounds good.
18:12:25 <puiterwijk> I don't want to make you guys wait on openstack update + fixing. That can take quite some time as I found out
18:12:44 <nirik> we may plan some more outages too, but I can discuss that in #fedora-noc out of meeting...
18:12:51 <puiterwijk> Yeah, sounds good
18:13:17 <puiterwijk> Oh, I see you had an option for tuesday open as well. Do you have a preference? Tuesday or Wednesday?
18:13:34 <nirik> doesn't matter to me, as long as we schedule it.
18:13:39 <puiterwijk> Okay.
18:14:07 <nirik> so pick one and we will go with that. ;)
18:14:27 <nirik> I have 2 other items to mention here:
18:14:57 <nirik> 1. smooge and I will as you have seen be in the datacenter all next week. So, I won't be able to run the meeting. Would someone else be willing to do so?
18:15:04 <puiterwijk> Wednesday is what python says
18:15:13 <puiterwijk> nirik: I can do that
18:15:34 <nirik> 2. Are there things folks would like to learn about or teach about? I'd love to line up people in advance a few weeks for meetings so we have things ready to go.
18:15:39 <nirik> puiterwijk: thanks.
18:15:48 <nirik> #action puiterwijk to run meeting next week
18:15:58 * mirek-hm is late here
18:16:15 <nirik> hey mirek-hm. :)
18:16:21 <subho> Hello all, I am Subhendu Ghosh, currently working as Python Developer in a startup in India. I am new here , I have been contributing to fedora-infra projects regularly and I want to be an apprentice.
18:16:46 <nirik> welcome subho. Please do see me after the meeting in #fedora-admin and we can get you setup... :)
18:17:13 <subho> nirik, awesome! thanks :)
18:17:37 <nirik> ok, if no other discussion items I will move on to the learn about section.
18:18:00 <nirik> #topic Learn about: CSI - kevin
18:18:20 <nirik> So, I just wanted to talk briefly about CSI... community services infrastructure.
18:18:37 <nirik> It's a process/docuement for community based infrastructures (like ours!)
18:19:03 <nirik> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Community_Services_Infrastructure/1/html-single/Security_Policy/index.html
18:19:20 <nirik> currently we only have the security policy written, and it's likely somewhat out of date at this point...
18:19:30 <mirek-hm> and I thought that it stand for Crime Scene Investigation :(
18:19:53 <nirik> But there's still some very good processes and settings in there, so I would encourage everyone to read it
18:20:05 <nirik> mirek-hm: :) yeah, happy accident I guess, or perhaps it's not an accident. :)
18:20:25 <nirik> basically two things that really are worth thinking about for us:
18:20:40 <nirik> 1. Making sure the client machines we all use are secure.
18:21:03 <nirik> Most of this is just common sense, but it's nice to look and make sure you aren't making any mistakes.
18:21:28 <nirik> applying updates regularly, strong passwords, lock screens, etc
18:22:24 <nirik> also, and much more up to date than CSI, linux foundation recently posted their policies:
18:22:26 <nirik> https://github.com/lfit/itpol
18:22:58 <nirik> The second part of CSI setup is how to handle security events... who to notify, what to do, etc.
18:23:16 <nirik> Those are good for everyone to know so they know how to act if there's a security event.
18:23:30 <nirik> Luckily we don't have them very often at all, but having a process ready is very important.
18:23:55 <nirik> So, I would encourage everyone to read up and make sure you are following good practices on your workstations/client machines
18:24:06 <nirik> and know what to do when there's some kind of security event. ;)
18:24:42 <nirik> any questions or comments?
18:25:18 <nirik> great. :)
18:25:22 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
18:25:32 <misc> well, on that topic, I am giving a talk for centos dojo in bruxelles
18:25:40 <misc> on sysadmin workstation security
18:25:51 <nirik> misc: awesome. ;) Do you know if it will be recorded?
18:25:56 <misc> nirik: it should
18:26:13 <misc> it might just be me reading the Linux Fundation check list and adding jokes and french accents
18:26:34 <nirik> cool. If you could post the link to the talk on the infra list, or pass it on to me to post that would be great.
18:26:44 <misc> sure, once it is done :)
18:27:06 <misc> (if people also want me, I can do the same talk for all kind of events, from install party to weddings)
18:27:40 <nirik> ha. Nice.
18:28:11 <nirik> ok, if nothing else will close out the meeting in a few...
18:28:55 <nirik> ok, thanks for coming everyone!
18:28:57 <nirik> #endmeeting