18:00:03 <smooge> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2016-12-01) 18:00:03 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Dec 8 18:00:03 2016 UTC. The chair is smooge. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:00:03 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 18:00:03 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure_(2016-12-01)' 18:00:03 <smooge> #meetingname infrastructure 18:00:03 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure' 18:00:03 <smooge> #topic aloha 18:00:03 <smooge> #chair smooge relrod nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore threebean pingou puiterwijk pbrobinson 18:00:03 <zodbot> Current chairs: abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken nirik pbrobinson pingou puiterwijk relrod smooge threebean 18:00:04 <smooge> #topic New folks introductions 18:00:14 <smooge> .hello smooge 18:00:16 <zodbot> smooge: smooge 'Stephen J Smoogen' <smooge@gmail.com> 18:00:16 <jcline> .hello jcline 18:00:19 <wind85___> hi everybody 18:00:22 <zodbot> jcline: jcline 'Jeremy Cline' <jeremy@jcline.org> 18:00:22 <stickster> .hello pfrields 18:00:32 <zodbot> stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' <stickster@gmail.com> 18:00:49 <smooge> This meeting will be a short meeting as nirik and puiterwijk are dealing with deep ones taking over the data center 18:01:20 <stickster> puiterwijk++ nirik++ 18:01:25 * nirik waves from the elder depths. 18:01:33 <smooge> anyone else to say hi? 18:01:36 <puiterwijk> Hi 18:01:40 <threenodedev> Hi 18:01:48 <puiterwijk> You will need to speak loud, it's noisy here :-) 18:01:52 <stickster> heh 18:01:57 <wind85___> :) 18:02:05 <smooge> #topic announcements and information 18:02:05 <smooge> #info kevin and patrick in PHX2 18:02:05 <smooge> #info lots of hardware problems being dealt with 18:02:05 <smooge> #info copr down for 12+ hours due to unknown issue 18:02:05 <smooge> #info new buildvmhosts installed 18:02:06 <dgilmore> hi all 18:02:06 <smooge> #info osbs being redeployed. 18:02:07 <smooge> #info taskotron-dev redeployed on f24 - tflink 18:02:21 <smooge> I need to fix that 18:02:31 <smooge> #info copr down for 12+ hours due to GPG2 changing format of keys 18:02:40 <puiterwijk> #info HEADSUP: flag day coming monday December 12 18:02:40 <maxamillion> Hello 18:02:43 * maxamillion is around :) 18:02:52 <stickster> smooge: I think the COPR issue was due to something about gnupg2, sounded like an aborted upgrade or something? 18:03:16 <stickster> sorry, aborted migration 18:03:29 <smooge> yes. gnupg2 changed its format for storing keys and a script which is supposed to migrate from old to new format failed somewhere. 18:03:37 <stickster> oops, too little too late from me, sorry :-) 18:03:56 <smooge> msuchy worked with the upstream to debug and fix 18:04:15 <stickster> at some point using the excuse of this new keyboard won't work. that point, however, is not today ;-D 18:04:18 <smooge> stickster, no problem I had not corrected the gobby so it needed to be clearer 18:04:34 <stickster> msuchy++ 18:04:34 <zodbot> stickster: Karma for msuchy changed to 1 (for the f25 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 18:04:48 <smooge> puiterwijk, thankyou I have that for later in the meeting 18:04:55 <smooge> msuchy++ 18:04:55 <zodbot> smooge: Karma for msuchy changed to 2 (for the f25 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 18:05:47 <smooge> ok my gobby edits for the next item were either removed or i got disconnected 18:06:05 <smooge> #topic Things We Should Discuss: Koji Flag Day 18:06:30 <smooge> #info Monday Koji and builders are moving to kerberos for authentication of builds 18:06:47 <smooge> #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Kerberos 18:07:21 <bowlofeggs> .hello bowlofeggs 18:07:22 <zodbot> bowlofeggs: bowlofeggs 'Randy Barlow' <randy@electronsweatshop.com> 18:07:36 <smooge> It is looking to be a minor change on the backend and mostly a support issue of getting people to update various packages they never touch or commands they need to use 18:09:11 <smooge> is there anything from puiterwijk or dgilmore that we need to add on this? 18:09:37 <dgilmore> the biggest changes really are on teh developers workstations 18:09:50 <dgilmore> and changes in developer workflows 18:10:33 <smooge> yes wetware problems.. always the worst to debug 18:11:31 <smooge> dgilmore, what packages do they need to update? 18:11:50 <dgilmore> koji, fedpkg, rpkg, fedora-packager 18:12:02 <dgilmore> not all updates are ready yet 18:13:25 <smooge> I just want to give them a list for the people who need extra help 18:14:08 <smooge> as I expect there will be the usual "no one told me the exact magical statement I needed to get it working on my Slackware box" 18:14:41 <smooge> in any case.. if there isn't anything else. I will move to the next item 18:14:58 <smooge> #topic Apprentice Open office hours 18:15:13 <smooge> Hi any apprentice issues to be covered in this meeting? 18:16:44 <smooge> #topic Upcoming Red Hat End of Year Break 18:17:17 <smooge> OK at the end of the calendar year, Red Hat does a 1.5 -> 2 week shutdown. 18:17:43 <smooge> This year it is Dec 23 -> Jan 2. 18:18:34 <smooge> During that time, Red Hat employees are on a vacation and may not be monitoring IRC, email etc except for pages or their own free time 18:19:23 <smooge> Basically, if stuff goes down, it will get worked on, but if you are needing to know why XYZ is not installed on fedorapeople.. expect that you might not get answered til January 18:20:57 <smooge> Fedora Infrastructure usually also goes into a soft-freeze during that time. If changes to the infrastructure are needed to be made, 2 +1 on IRC or email just to say "oh yeah I see what you are doing and I will listen for the pager in case it breaks" 18:21:21 <smooge> Any questions? 18:22:09 <maxamillion> none here 18:22:22 <smooge> #topic Open Floor 18:22:47 <smooge> OK last call for questions.. bar closes in 2 minutes. 18:23:55 <smooge> Thanks for coming folks. Hope to see you next week when nirik has tales of the Deep Ones in the Wiring Cabinet. 18:24:00 <smooge> #endmeeting