18:00:19 <smooge> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2017-12-14)
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18:00:19 <smooge> #meetingname infrastructure
18:00:19 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure'
18:00:19 <smooge> #topic aloha
18:00:19 <smooge> #chair smooge relrod nirik dgilmore threebean pingou puiterwijk pbrobinson maxamillion
18:00:19 <zodbot> Current chairs: dgilmore maxamillion nirik pbrobinson pingou puiterwijk relrod smooge threebean
18:00:23 <smooge> hello all
18:00:25 <puiterwijk> hello
18:01:20 * pingou here
18:01:23 <cverna> hello too
18:01:24 <pingou> hello people :)
18:02:18 <smooge> linuxmodder, you were early .. so I will just paste this:  linuxmodder is here for infra ~ 5 mins early albeit
18:02:36 <smooge> #topic New folks introductions
18:02:36 <smooge> #info This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora Infrastructure can introduce themselves
18:03:22 <aso> Hey guys, I'm Alex. I sent my introduction email about a week ago. I'm ready for some challenges :)
18:03:50 <cverna> welcome aso
18:03:58 <smooge> Hello aso
18:04:27 <smooge> we are a bit thin on challenges at the moment with the new year break but are looking to see what we can do in the coming year.
18:05:12 <linuxmodder> .fas linuxmodder
18:05:12 <zodbot> linuxmodder: linuxmodder 'Corey W Sheldon' <sheldon.corey@openmailbox.org>
18:05:41 <aso> That's not a problem, I'll be here :)
18:05:45 <smooge> cool
18:05:59 <smooge> #topic announcements and information
18:05:59 <smooge> #info PHX2 Colo Trip, Dec 4th - 9th. Trip was success. All Fedora servers were moved
18:05:59 <smooge> #info Fedora Infrastructure SemiFreeze begins 2017-12-21
18:05:59 <smooge> #info Many people on vacation.
18:05:59 <smooge> #info Bodhi-3.1.0 mostly deployed (backend01 still needs to be upgraded)
18:06:04 <linuxmodder> not a newbie but been absent for awhile, if anyone needs a refresh of my involvement or skills pm so as not the flood channel
18:06:47 <linuxmodder> semifreeze?  care to elabore some ?
18:06:58 * dustymabe late
18:07:04 <dustymabe> .hello2
18:07:05 <zodbot> dustymabe: dustymabe 'Dusty Mabe' <dustymabe@redhat.com>
18:07:16 <pingou> linuxmodder: every change require a single +1 from another sysadmin-main or releng
18:08:14 <dustymabe> pingou: is that just for the holidays?
18:08:25 <pingou> yes
18:08:34 * dustymabe kinda wishes it was like that all the time. I know it would be a pain, but would help with transparency
18:08:41 <linuxmodder> for the semifreeze pingou ?
18:09:01 <pingou> linuxmodder: ?
18:09:09 <linuxmodder> vice the 3 +1 normally needed
18:09:27 <smooge> so we do a slush every large holiday break
18:10:01 <smooge> during a slush we need 1 +1 by another sysadmin-main before making the change. This is to make sure we have someone else around when a change is happening
18:10:26 <smooge> during a freeze we need a 2 +1 in the email by 2 different sysadmin-main
18:11:18 <smooge> this is to make sure that if something does break during a change/fix/etc there is at least 1 more sysadmin who can help 'rescue'/'keep you sane' while it is being fixed
18:11:35 <linuxmodder> thought it was 3 at one point but I'm foggy on all that noted
18:11:50 <smooge> It is a later topic so I may have filled it out early
18:12:35 <smooge> Currently various infrastructure people are on vacation and more will be doing so in the next week. Doing 'nirik ping' etc will probably get NO response
18:12:46 <smooge> for days if ever
18:12:53 <pingou> ^^
18:13:25 <puiterwijk> You might get a pong from other people, but that's also not guaranteed to be in standard amounts of time
18:13:39 <smooge> pingou, anything pagure related to announce? [Other than I get to put out a new cert in a couple of hours?]
18:13:43 * bowlofeggs waves from far away
18:14:13 <pingou> 3.12.1 to land in prod shortly I suspect
18:14:18 <smooge> cool
18:14:23 <pingou> with a few bug fixed
18:14:52 <pingou> other than that, I'm working on a 4.0 and a few changes w/ it
18:15:33 <pingou> 4.0 is changing some of the internal code structure, so nothing really breaking for users (outside bugs) but potentially breakage for script relying on the internals
18:15:54 * cverna waves back a bowlofeggs using a giant foam hand so that he can see it
18:16:28 <pingou> eof
18:16:52 <bowlofeggs> cverna: :)
18:16:52 <smooge> ok next one
18:16:57 <pingou> oh, random announcement
18:17:13 <smooge> or I can wai
18:17:20 <pingou> don't forget to fill https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/vacation if you go away for a few days or more :)
18:17:31 <pingou> eof :)
18:17:56 <pingou> (dunno if this deserves an #info or not)
18:18:29 <smooge> #info People in sysadmin-* file your vacation days
18:18:32 <smooge> #topic PHX2 Move
18:18:32 <smooge> #info Lessons Learned(LL): Having a good plan does work
18:18:32 <smooge> #info LL: Make sure that the people who need to be there are there
18:18:33 <smooge> #info LL: New cages have 30 amp power.
18:18:33 <smooge> #info LL: You can put 1 Dell FX per 2 30 amp power supplies
18:18:34 <smooge> #info LL: Inventory is hard
18:19:33 <smooge> OK so last week we did a large move of the infrastructure from one side of a cage to another. This moved us from older racks, dodgey pdu's and bad wiring, to new racks, good pdu's and wiring NOT done by me
18:19:38 <pingou> #info kudos to all the folks involved
18:19:45 <cverna> ++ to everyone involved in the move
18:19:48 <dustymabe> smooge: +1
18:19:59 <pingou> smooge++ relrod++ puiterwijk++ nirik++
18:19:59 <zodbot> pingou: Karma for smooge changed to 3 (for the f27 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
18:20:02 <zodbot> pingou: Karma for codeblock changed to 3 (for the f27 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
18:20:08 <pingou> (do let me know if I'm forgetting anyone)
18:20:13 * Southern_Gentlem suggestion for inventory upc or qrcodes
18:20:24 <dustymabe> who all was there?
18:20:47 <cverna> smooge++ relrod++ puiterwijk++ nirik++
18:20:48 <zodbot> cverna: Karma for smooge changed to 4 (for the f27 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
18:20:48 <pingou> Ricky and smooge were on site
18:20:51 <zodbot> cverna: Karma for codeblock changed to 4 (for the f27 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
18:20:54 <cverna> :)
18:20:54 <zodbot> cverna: Karma for kevin changed to 15 (for the f27 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
18:20:56 <smooge> Matt Galgoci, Ricky Elrod, me, 4 contractors  people
18:21:13 * pingou didn't know about the other 5, ++ to them as well
18:21:30 <smooge> Most of my work was to keep things moving together. Ricky had the work of getting inventory
18:22:09 <smooge> Southern_Gentlem, the hardware does have upcs on them.. but Ricky needed to do the harder work of saying where that was in a rack, what was in it, etc etc
18:22:44 <smooge> Matt Galgoci unbricked 4 aarch64 boxes for us while making sure that our switches had working network
18:23:45 <smooge> Southern_Gentlem, do you have a recommendation on opensource software which can tie the two together?
18:25:46 <smooge> ... sorry another phone call about a disk drive from Lenovo ...
18:25:51 <smooge> ok back
18:25:53 <smooge> #topic Fedora Infrastructure SemiFreeze
18:25:54 <smooge> #info Red Hat does a year end shutdown every year.
18:25:54 <smooge> #info Most of infrastructure is on vacation during this time
18:25:54 <smooge> #info People will be on IRC every now and then. Do no expect replies to queries
18:25:54 <smooge> #info All changes to infrastructure from 2017-12-21 -> 2018-01-02 need +1 via IRC or email
18:25:55 <smooge> #info Use email or infrastructure tickets so things are captured.
18:26:16 <smooge> linuxmodder, dustymabe does that better answer the question on freezes and such?
18:26:26 <linuxmodder> smooge, yes
18:26:39 <pingou> I'll be around next week, less so the week after that
18:27:01 <pingou> should I ask for a pre-emptive +1 on pushing pagure 3.12.1 to prod if I don't end up making it tomorrow?
18:27:06 <puiterwijk> I'll probably be around most of the time. Worst case I can be paged
18:27:14 <puiterwijk> pingou: +1 provided
18:27:19 <pingou> thanks :)
18:27:36 <pingou> I'll make sure to do it early in the week so I'm around if something falls
18:27:49 <smooge> pingou, what days will you be out next week?
18:27:58 <smooge> are they on the calendar :)?
18:27:59 <puiterwijk> That'd be appreciated. An "Update and run" is less fun for us :)
18:28:15 <pingou> smooge: the week after I won't be around
18:28:22 <pingou> next week, I'm here all the time
18:28:41 <smooge> oops time travel problem.. I was in next week
18:29:05 <smooge> ok sounds like we are good on this.. sorry for the confusion
18:30:33 <smooge> #topic Next Meeting?
18:31:07 <smooge> I will be around next week and will be able to run a meeting then. However I wanted to gauge how many people would be here on the 21st
18:31:21 <puiterwijk> I'd say we skip meetings until new year
18:31:34 <pingou> +1
18:31:42 <cverna> +1 for skipping
18:32:46 <smooge> ok next meeting would be Thursday Jan 4
18:33:09 <smooge> I will be back by then.. will others?
18:33:49 <dustymabe> i'll be back by then
18:33:57 * cverna will be back
18:34:34 <smooge> ok then 2018-01-04 18:00 UTC will be the next Fedora Infrastructure Meeting
18:34:41 <smooge> #topic Open Floor
18:34:49 * pingou will be back as well
18:35:00 <smooge> Alright do we have any items for open floor?
18:36:08 <cverna> seems not :)
18:37:23 <harindersingh> Hi people
18:37:35 <smooge> hello harindersingh
18:37:57 <harindersingh> I am new here and got idea of very few things
18:38:19 <smooge> ah cool. Are you wanting to join the apprentice group?
18:38:38 <harindersingh> Kevin has added me
18:38:50 <harindersingh> I was going through the SOPs
18:38:57 <cverna> welcome harindersingh
18:39:07 <harindersingh> thank you cverna
18:39:43 <harindersingh> Would it be fine if i can ping or email any one of you when I need some help ?
18:39:45 <pingou> welcome :)
18:39:59 <harindersingh> thank you pingou
18:40:00 <pingou> irc is likely better, and sure :)
18:40:22 <pingou> the best is to ask on a public channel so more people can benefit from the answer or help answering :)
18:40:38 <cverna> what are you interested in harindersingh more development or sysadmin tasks ?
18:40:47 <cverna> or both :)
18:41:12 <harindersingh> Ok sure :) I asked just for a sort of mentoring thing hence email
18:41:44 <harindersingh> I am interested in sysadmin tasks cverna
18:41:57 <smooge> at the moment, mentoring is our weak spot. I think it is somehting we need to work on in the coming year.. but we need to outline what we are going to mentor and what we can't
18:42:20 <smooge> I am not saying we can't do it.. just that you will probably need to work with us a bit on what is needed so we can do it
18:42:23 <smooge> brb
18:43:24 <harindersingh> Yeah I missed the apprentice workday this  time. I'll attend that next time
18:44:03 <harindersingh> So I'll go through the issues and see which ones I can work on because I really have to learn working with these tools.
18:44:24 <pingou> don't hesitate to ask questions :)
18:44:40 <harindersingh> Yeah I won't
18:45:06 <harindersingh> See you around on other irc channel.
18:45:19 <linuxmodder> cverna, sysadmin here
18:46:04 <smooge> ok with that.. I think we are ready to end this meeting
18:46:22 <smooge> thank you all for coming and see you in a couple of weeks
18:46:26 <smooge> #endmeeting