18:00:19 #startmeeting Infrastructure (2017-12-14) 18:00:19 Meeting started Thu Dec 14 18:00:19 2017 UTC. The chair is smooge. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:00:19 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 18:00:19 The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure_(2017-12-14)' 18:00:19 #meetingname infrastructure 18:00:19 The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure' 18:00:19 #topic aloha 18:00:19 #chair smooge relrod nirik dgilmore threebean pingou puiterwijk pbrobinson maxamillion 18:00:19 Current chairs: dgilmore maxamillion nirik pbrobinson pingou puiterwijk relrod smooge threebean 18:00:23 hello all 18:00:25 hello 18:01:20 * pingou here 18:01:23 hello too 18:01:24 hello people :) 18:02:18 linuxmodder, you were early .. so I will just paste this: linuxmodder is here for infra ~ 5 mins early albeit 18:02:36 #topic New folks introductions 18:02:36 #info This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora Infrastructure can introduce themselves 18:03:22 Hey guys, I'm Alex. I sent my introduction email about a week ago. I'm ready for some challenges :) 18:03:50 welcome aso 18:03:58 Hello aso 18:04:27 we are a bit thin on challenges at the moment with the new year break but are looking to see what we can do in the coming year. 18:05:12 .fas linuxmodder 18:05:12 linuxmodder: linuxmodder 'Corey W Sheldon' 18:05:41 That's not a problem, I'll be here :) 18:05:45 cool 18:05:59 #topic announcements and information 18:05:59 #info PHX2 Colo Trip, Dec 4th - 9th. Trip was success. All Fedora servers were moved 18:05:59 #info Fedora Infrastructure SemiFreeze begins 2017-12-21 18:05:59 #info Many people on vacation. 18:05:59 #info Bodhi-3.1.0 mostly deployed (backend01 still needs to be upgraded) 18:06:04 not a newbie but been absent for awhile, if anyone needs a refresh of my involvement or skills pm so as not the flood channel 18:06:47 semifreeze? care to elabore some ? 18:06:58 * dustymabe late 18:07:04 .hello2 18:07:05 dustymabe: dustymabe 'Dusty Mabe' 18:07:16 linuxmodder: every change require a single +1 from another sysadmin-main or releng 18:08:14 pingou: is that just for the holidays? 18:08:25 yes 18:08:34 * dustymabe kinda wishes it was like that all the time. I know it would be a pain, but would help with transparency 18:08:41 for the semifreeze pingou ? 18:09:01 linuxmodder: ? 18:09:09 vice the 3 +1 normally needed 18:09:27 so we do a slush every large holiday break 18:10:01 during a slush we need 1 +1 by another sysadmin-main before making the change. This is to make sure we have someone else around when a change is happening 18:10:26 during a freeze we need a 2 +1 in the email by 2 different sysadmin-main 18:11:18 this is to make sure that if something does break during a change/fix/etc there is at least 1 more sysadmin who can help 'rescue'/'keep you sane' while it is being fixed 18:11:35 thought it was 3 at one point but I'm foggy on all that noted 18:11:50 It is a later topic so I may have filled it out early 18:12:35 Currently various infrastructure people are on vacation and more will be doing so in the next week. Doing 'nirik ping' etc will probably get NO response 18:12:46 for days if ever 18:12:53 ^^ 18:13:25 You might get a pong from other people, but that's also not guaranteed to be in standard amounts of time 18:13:39 pingou, anything pagure related to announce? [Other than I get to put out a new cert in a couple of hours?] 18:13:43 * bowlofeggs waves from far away 18:14:13 3.12.1 to land in prod shortly I suspect 18:14:18 cool 18:14:23 with a few bug fixed 18:14:52 other than that, I'm working on a 4.0 and a few changes w/ it 18:15:33 4.0 is changing some of the internal code structure, so nothing really breaking for users (outside bugs) but potentially breakage for script relying on the internals 18:15:54 * cverna waves back a bowlofeggs using a giant foam hand so that he can see it 18:16:28 eof 18:16:52 cverna: :) 18:16:52 ok next one 18:16:57 oh, random announcement 18:17:13 or I can wai 18:17:20 don't forget to fill https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/vacation if you go away for a few days or more :) 18:17:31 eof :) 18:17:56 (dunno if this deserves an #info or not) 18:18:29 #info People in sysadmin-* file your vacation days 18:18:32 #topic PHX2 Move 18:18:32 #info Lessons Learned(LL): Having a good plan does work 18:18:32 #info LL: Make sure that the people who need to be there are there 18:18:33 #info LL: New cages have 30 amp power. 18:18:33 #info LL: You can put 1 Dell FX per 2 30 amp power supplies 18:18:34 #info LL: Inventory is hard 18:19:33 OK so last week we did a large move of the infrastructure from one side of a cage to another. This moved us from older racks, dodgey pdu's and bad wiring, to new racks, good pdu's and wiring NOT done by me 18:19:38 #info kudos to all the folks involved 18:19:45 ++ to everyone involved in the move 18:19:48 smooge: +1 18:19:59 smooge++ relrod++ puiterwijk++ nirik++ 18:19:59 pingou: Karma for smooge changed to 3 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 18:20:02 pingou: Karma for codeblock changed to 3 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 18:20:08 (do let me know if I'm forgetting anyone) 18:20:13 * Southern_Gentlem suggestion for inventory upc or qrcodes 18:20:24 who all was there? 18:20:47 smooge++ relrod++ puiterwijk++ nirik++ 18:20:48 cverna: Karma for smooge changed to 4 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 18:20:48 Ricky and smooge were on site 18:20:51 cverna: Karma for codeblock changed to 4 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 18:20:54 :) 18:20:54 cverna: Karma for kevin changed to 15 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 18:20:56 Matt Galgoci, Ricky Elrod, me, 4 contractors people 18:21:13 * pingou didn't know about the other 5, ++ to them as well 18:21:30 Most of my work was to keep things moving together. Ricky had the work of getting inventory 18:22:09 Southern_Gentlem, the hardware does have upcs on them.. but Ricky needed to do the harder work of saying where that was in a rack, what was in it, etc etc 18:22:44 Matt Galgoci unbricked 4 aarch64 boxes for us while making sure that our switches had working network 18:23:45 Southern_Gentlem, do you have a recommendation on opensource software which can tie the two together? 18:25:46 ... sorry another phone call about a disk drive from Lenovo ... 18:25:51 ok back 18:25:53 #topic Fedora Infrastructure SemiFreeze 18:25:54 #info Red Hat does a year end shutdown every year. 18:25:54 #info Most of infrastructure is on vacation during this time 18:25:54 #info People will be on IRC every now and then. Do no expect replies to queries 18:25:54 #info All changes to infrastructure from 2017-12-21 -> 2018-01-02 need +1 via IRC or email 18:25:55 #info Use email or infrastructure tickets so things are captured. 18:26:16 linuxmodder, dustymabe does that better answer the question on freezes and such? 18:26:26 smooge, yes 18:26:39 I'll be around next week, less so the week after that 18:27:01 should I ask for a pre-emptive +1 on pushing pagure 3.12.1 to prod if I don't end up making it tomorrow? 18:27:06 I'll probably be around most of the time. Worst case I can be paged 18:27:14 pingou: +1 provided 18:27:19 thanks :) 18:27:36 I'll make sure to do it early in the week so I'm around if something falls 18:27:49 pingou, what days will you be out next week? 18:27:58 are they on the calendar :)? 18:27:59 That'd be appreciated. An "Update and run" is less fun for us :) 18:28:15 smooge: the week after I won't be around 18:28:22 next week, I'm here all the time 18:28:41 oops time travel problem.. I was in next week 18:29:05 ok sounds like we are good on this.. sorry for the confusion 18:30:33 #topic Next Meeting? 18:31:07 I will be around next week and will be able to run a meeting then. However I wanted to gauge how many people would be here on the 21st 18:31:21 I'd say we skip meetings until new year 18:31:34 +1 18:31:42 +1 for skipping 18:32:46 ok next meeting would be Thursday Jan 4 18:33:09 I will be back by then.. will others? 18:33:49 i'll be back by then 18:33:57 * cverna will be back 18:34:34 ok then 2018-01-04 18:00 UTC will be the next Fedora Infrastructure Meeting 18:34:41 #topic Open Floor 18:34:49 * pingou will be back as well 18:35:00 Alright do we have any items for open floor? 18:36:08 seems not :) 18:37:23 Hi people 18:37:35 hello harindersingh 18:37:57 I am new here and got idea of very few things 18:38:19 ah cool. Are you wanting to join the apprentice group? 18:38:38 Kevin has added me 18:38:50 I was going through the SOPs 18:38:57 welcome harindersingh 18:39:07 thank you cverna 18:39:43 Would it be fine if i can ping or email any one of you when I need some help ? 18:39:45 welcome :) 18:39:59 thank you pingou 18:40:00 irc is likely better, and sure :) 18:40:22 the best is to ask on a public channel so more people can benefit from the answer or help answering :) 18:40:38 what are you interested in harindersingh more development or sysadmin tasks ? 18:40:47 or both :) 18:41:12 Ok sure :) I asked just for a sort of mentoring thing hence email 18:41:44 I am interested in sysadmin tasks cverna 18:41:57 at the moment, mentoring is our weak spot. I think it is somehting we need to work on in the coming year.. but we need to outline what we are going to mentor and what we can't 18:42:20 I am not saying we can't do it.. just that you will probably need to work with us a bit on what is needed so we can do it 18:42:23 brb 18:43:24 Yeah I missed the apprentice workday this time. I'll attend that next time 18:44:03 So I'll go through the issues and see which ones I can work on because I really have to learn working with these tools. 18:44:24 don't hesitate to ask questions :) 18:44:40 Yeah I won't 18:45:06 See you around on other irc channel. 18:45:19 cverna, sysadmin here 18:46:04 ok with that.. I think we are ready to end this meeting 18:46:22 thank you all for coming and see you in a couple of weeks 18:46:26 #endmeeting