15:02:54 <smooge> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2019-05-15) 15:02:54 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu May 16 15:02:54 2019 UTC. 15:02:54 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 15:02:54 <zodbot> The chair is smooge. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:02:54 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:02:54 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure_(2019-05-15)' 15:02:54 <smooge> #meetingname infrastructure 15:02:54 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure' 15:02:54 <smooge> #topic aloha 15:02:54 <smooge> #chair nirik pingou puiterwijk relrod smooge tflink cverna mizdebsk mkonecny abompard bowlofeggs 15:02:54 <zodbot> Current chairs: abompard bowlofeggs cverna mizdebsk mkonecny nirik pingou puiterwijk relrod smooge tflink 15:03:00 <clime> hi 15:03:03 <nirik> morning party people. 15:03:08 <smooge> I have only 1 job... 15:03:09 <braydon_kains> Hello! 15:03:17 <mkonecny> .hello zlopez 15:03:18 <zodbot> mkonecny: zlopez 'Michal Konečný' <michal.konecny@packetseekers.eu> 15:03:24 <tflink> morning 15:03:27 <bcotton> .hello2 15:03:28 <zodbot> bcotton: bcotton 'Ben Cotton' <bcotton@redhat.com> 15:03:41 <relrod> morning 15:04:43 * pingou 15:04:49 <smooge> #topic New folks introductions 15:04:49 <smooge> #info This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora Infrastructure can introduce themselves 15:04:49 <smooge> #info Getting Started Guide: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/GettingStarted 15:05:29 <braydon_kains> Hey everyone, I'm new. Just finally sent my introduction to the mailing list yesterday but have been looking over projects and guides for a while. 15:06:30 <mkonecny> Welcome here :-) 15:07:01 <smooge> hello braydon_kains 15:07:27 <smooge> #topic announcements and information 15:07:28 <smooge> #info Zombieland reboots of important servers have been done. 15:07:28 <smooge> #info bodhi-4.0.0 beta is in staging. Please test because we ship soon 15:07:28 <smooge> #info only N days until F31 freeze 15:07:28 <smooge> #info bowlofeggs will be going on extended leave in June 15:07:29 <smooge> #info nirik will be on leave from 2019-06-03 to 2019-06-07 15:07:30 <smooge> #info many people will be at a community platform engineering f2f 2019-06-10 to 14 15:07:32 <smooge> #info Another blogpost about release-monitoring.org is published (https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/stories-from-the-amazing-world-of-release-monitoring-org-5/) - mkonecny 15:07:35 <smooge> #info FAS2 has been moved to openshift (puiterwijk) 15:07:37 <smooge> #info Ipsilon has been moved to openshift (puiterwijk) 15:07:38 <nirik> welcome braydon_kains! 15:07:39 <smooge> #info community openshift is progressing 15:07:43 <smooge> #info next reboot cycle? 15:07:50 <smooge> braydon_kains, I can add you to the apprentice gorup after meeting if you aren't already 15:08:09 <braydon_kains> smooge: Yeah I'm not in that yet, would appreciate it thanks. 15:09:02 <smooge> OK we have a LOT of things starting to go on in the next 3 weeks 15:09:04 <rpbarlow> .hello2 15:09:05 <zodbot> rpbarlow: Sorry, but you don't exist 15:09:14 <relrod> #info new getfedora.org has been deployed. Thank you to puiterwijk for deployment help 15:09:24 <rpbarlow> .hello bowlofeggs 15:09:25 <zodbot> rpbarlow: bowlofeggs 'Randy Barlow' <rbarlow@redhat.com> 15:10:13 <smooge> hello bowlofeggs/rpbarlow 15:10:18 <rpbarlow> heh 15:10:19 <mkonecny> smooge: What is the N in "only N days until F31 freeze" 15:10:20 <smooge> thanks relrod 15:10:33 <rpbarlow> i guess freenode bumped me from being my usual self but that's ok because i have more than one personality 15:11:01 <mkonecny> relrod: I worked on translation and reported few things I encountered 15:11:26 <nirik> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/31/Schedule 15:11:36 <nirik> 2019-08-29... so we have a while. 15:12:03 <smooge> mkonecny, looks like ~100 days til freeze and ~60 days til mass rebuild 15:12:25 <nirik> oh, another info: 15:12:29 <relrod> mkonecny: thank you 15:12:41 <mkonecny> smooge: thanks 15:12:48 <nirik> #info flocktofedora is aug 2nd-5th 15:12:49 <mkonecny> relrod: You are welcome 15:13:02 <pingou> no meeting that week either :) 15:13:08 <nirik> sorry, 8th-11th 15:13:13 <mkonecny> Hooray Flock \o/ 15:13:16 <nirik> https://flocktofedora.org/ 15:13:32 <nirik> everyone should start thinking about talks they might like to give... 15:13:56 <mkonecny> I already have two in mind 15:14:09 <smooge> nirik, ha! you had me there for a moment with 'Oh I can go!' 15:14:12 <nirik> I think we should definitely do a infrastructure workshop, those are always good 15:14:27 <nirik> mkonecny: oh yeah? 15:14:34 * pingou has at least one 15:15:01 * nirik isn't sure. There's a bunch I could do, but not sure what sounds good this year... 15:15:15 <pingou> community openshift? 15:15:20 <mkonecny> nirik: One is about release-monitoring.org with a little magic added :-) 15:15:35 <pingou> mkonecny: are you going to wear a pointy hat? 15:15:55 <mkonecny> The second one should be about privacy, but I'm not sure if this is a good speech for Flock 15:16:29 <mkonecny> pingou: Unfortunately I don't have any, but I can borrow one from my brother :-D 15:16:36 <nirik> pingou: yeah, could... with a lot of help from puiterwijk, we now have it up and running (initial install/not for public use yet) 15:17:49 <nirik> mkonecny: sounds cool. Magic is great! 15:18:10 * nirik almost gave a privacy talk a few years back, but decided not to. 15:18:29 <smooge> pingou, community openshift is the replacement for community openstack that is most of Fedora Infra Cloud 15:18:52 <smooge> or was that a different question? 15:19:25 <pingou> smooge: it was a talk suggestion for flock :) 15:19:30 <smooge> sorry 15:19:33 <nirik> smooge: I think he was suggesting I give a talk on it... 15:19:54 <pingou> smooge: no worries :) 15:19:55 <smooge> I came back from a ping and thought it was about the topic line 15:20:08 <smooge> #topic Oncall 15:20:09 <smooge> #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Oncall 15:20:09 <smooge> #info nirik is on call from 2019-05-09 -> 2019-05-16 15:20:09 <smooge> #info relrod is on call from 2019-05-16 -> 2019-05-23 15:20:09 <smooge> #info smooge is on call from 2019-05-23 -> 2019-05-30 15:20:10 <smooge> #info ?????? is on call from 2019-05-30 -> 2019-06-06 15:20:11 <smooge> #info no one is on call from 2019-06-06 -> 2019-06-20 15:20:15 <smooge> #info ?????? is on call from 2019-06-20 -> 2019-06-27 15:20:17 <smooge> #info Summary of last week: (from nirik ) 15:20:38 <nirik> a fair pile of pings... on various topics 15:20:48 <nirik> fas had a few people as it was moved and needed tweaking 15:21:03 <rpbarlow> i bothered you a lot this round too! 15:21:04 <nirik> there was some bodhi tweaking to work around issues with other packages 15:21:10 <nirik> yeah. ;) 15:21:32 <nirik> a fair number of incoming tickets to triage... 15:21:44 <nirik> I think we are still over 100... 15:22:01 <nirik> yeah, 105 15:22:36 <nirik> you going to take the coffee cup smooge ? 15:22:48 <smooge> relrod said he would 15:23:00 * nirik reads up more, ah... ok. ;) 15:23:02 <smooge> I take it next week so he can do something during that week 15:23:23 <nirik> I'm going to be out early june, so I can't take the week after that 15:23:26 * smooge needs to see if relrod has stopped partying from graduation 15:23:30 <relrod> smooge: actually... so I mixed up my weeks. Is there any way we could flip? I won't be in tomorrow and this weekend 15:23:48 <smooge> zodbot: take_coffee_cup_of_power 15:24:06 <relrod> smooge: not much partying but a small trip to Dayton OH this weekend 15:24:17 <smooge> did you go to the air force museum? 15:25:06 <relrod> no, I need to 15:25:38 <relrod> Two years ago when I went, I stayed in a hotel that basically sits on the afb though. 15:25:55 <smooge> zodbot: oncall_take_us 15:25:55 <zodbot> smooge: Kneel before zod! 15:26:08 * smooge goes to make an alias for coffe_cup 15:26:19 <smooge> ok schedules are changed 15:26:26 <relrod> thank you and sorry 15:27:13 <smooge> nirik, puiterwijk how does 2019-06-20 -> 2019-06-27 look for either of you 15:27:34 <nirik> I should be able to do that week. 15:28:01 <nirik> I don;'t think I have any plans to go anywhere after the face to face meetings and until flock 15:28:18 <nirik> but... we may want to figure out phx2 site visit sometime 15:28:21 <pingou> it's been a while since I took one, I should put my name in the hat 15:29:08 <smooge> nirik, yeah.. I was figuring mid July for the phx2 site visit 15:29:20 <smooge> pingou, I will put you on that one 15:29:24 <smooge> we can change later 15:29:40 <smooge> #topic Monitoring discussion 15:29:40 <smooge> #info https://nagios.fedoraproject.org/nagios 15:29:40 <smooge> #info Go over existing out items and fix 15:30:06 <nirik> not sure whats up with those buildvmhost-aarch64's... 15:30:11 <nirik> rhit firewall? 15:30:12 <pingou> smooge: I expect I'll have some days off on that week, I'll just be slower at ticket triaging 15:31:21 <nirik> 3 boxes show raid issues, likely need rebooting to re-add drives? 15:31:22 <smooge> the raids should be fixed on reboots 15:31:31 <nirik> there's also one more machine with a dropped drive 15:31:54 <nirik> autocloud-backend-libvirt2 15:32:27 <smooge> I tried to do them via the drac but they will need someone on console to clear hw controller 15:32:38 <smooge> oh I didn't know that one.. oof 15:32:53 <smooge> nirik, is that a service which is going away after 28 is EOL? 15:33:04 <nirik> no, after f29 15:34:39 <nirik> so that brings us to reboots... perhaps next week? 15:34:57 <nirik> when the fallout from the latest cpu attacks is more known? 15:35:02 <smooge> yeah 15:35:12 <smooge> in case we have to move everything to AMD and ARM 15:36:04 <smooge> Do the usual cadence? Monday Staging, Tuesday External, Wednesday Internal, Weekend Build? 15:36:28 <smooge> most of that cadence was because it was easier for just one person to do parts as they had time 15:36:44 <nirik> yeah, that works for me, unless others have better ideas 15:36:49 <smooge> and also to try and not make it a OMG fire to meet an outage window. 15:36:58 * pingou has to step out shortly 15:37:04 <smooge> good seeing you pilotmatt 15:37:10 <smooge> good seeing you pingou 15:37:12 <pingou> :) 15:37:17 <smooge> auto-complete.. you complete me 15:37:23 <rpbarlow> pilotmatt++ tho 15:37:39 <smooge> ok I will put in tickets after meeting 15:37:52 <smooge> #topic Tickets discussion 15:37:52 <smooge> #info https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/report/Meetings%20ticket 15:38:25 <nirik> dammit. session crashed. 15:38:36 <smooge> so I wanted to bring up something here which nirik has been bringing into work force 15:39:00 <smooge> if it takes longer than a few minutes or needs more than 1 person, it needs to have a ticket 15:39:10 <smooge> no ticket, no work 15:39:42 <nirik> yeah, it might be a hassle, but it really helps us keep better track of things and how much people are doing. 15:40:25 <rpbarlow> +1 15:40:46 <nirik> also related: 15:40:54 <rpbarlow> it also helps keep people working efficiently by not being interrupted 15:41:04 <nirik> if you have a ticket, please keep that updated with questions/progress... 15:41:32 <nirik> and please do NOT update the ticket and immediately ping people about it. Tickets send email, people get it and can act when they are able. 15:42:26 <nirik> ideally we make tickets efficent enough people don't feel they need to do that. 15:43:08 <smooge> and conversely.. opening a ticket and then pinging people about it lowers it in the queue 15:43:23 <smooge> the cabal queue 15:44:34 <rpbarlow> haha yes that's a good policy 15:44:58 <smooge> ok anything else on this? 15:45:10 <smooge> #topic Open Floor 15:46:09 <smooge> Well thank you all for attending. And thank you all for your work 15:46:20 <rpbarlow> small announcement - i have bodhi-backend02's tasks in openshift in stg (though they currently crash - investigating) 15:46:22 <clime> thanks smooge 15:46:28 <rpbarlow> so with bodhi 4, we should be able to drop backend02 15:46:28 <smooge> cool 15:46:37 <mkonecny> thanks smooge 15:46:58 <smooge> more resources for my fedora block chain package signing tool 15:47:25 <puiterwijk> smooge-- 15:47:31 <rpbarlow> haha 15:47:45 <braydon_kains> Looking forward to being part of the team! Thanks everyone! 15:47:56 <rpbarlow> is it impossible or just not worth it to move backend01 into openshift? 15:48:00 <smooge> so I figured that if we have all these people wasting electricity to 'mine' things why not let them do builds and package signing for us 15:48:16 <rpbarlow> i know there's something weird abotu the NFS share, but i confess that i don't really understand it 15:48:31 <smooge> wait wait wait.. I am cracking jokes and rpbarlow is asking serious questions 15:48:35 <rpbarlow> hahaha 15:48:43 <nirik> well, we could in theroy... but it does pungi runs... 15:48:47 <rpbarlow> yeah 15:48:51 <nirik> so right now it's a vm with a ton of memory/cpu 15:49:00 <rpbarlow> yeah more than 90 GBs! 15:49:01 <nirik> I am not sure how pungi would handle being in a container 15:49:10 <rpbarlow> yeah i don't know either 15:49:12 <nirik> there was talk about moving that into koji... 15:49:30 <rpbarlow> that's true i guess we could consider that 15:49:31 <nirik> we could make them runroot tasks possibly. 15:50:22 <rpbarlow> is a runroot task basically a "please run this shell command for me koji?" 15:50:24 <nirik> I'm not sure how difficult that would be, but it sounds like it should work 15:50:30 <nirik> yep. 15:50:34 <rpbarlow> ah 15:50:34 <nirik> with these mounts, etc 15:50:44 <rpbarlow> well that is basically all i'm doing with bodhi's composer anyway 15:50:51 <rpbarlow> instead of asking koji it asks the OS 15:50:58 <rpbarlow> but you know, maybe it wouldn't be that hard? 15:50:59 <nirik> random task: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=34778643 15:51:07 <nirik> see the 'command' there 15:51:17 <rpbarlow> bodhi does directly write files itself too though 15:51:21 <rpbarlow> to add the updateinfo.xml 15:51:40 <rpbarlow> is there a "koji please accept this updateinfo.xml that i made for you" command? haha 15:52:00 <nirik> nope. ;( But if there was a seperate tool to do that it could run it as part of the runroot task? 15:52:03 <rpbarlow> i.e., it's not just pungi though that's the bulk of the work 15:52:06 <nirik> or it could run a second one to do that 15:52:26 <rpbarlow> it would be hard for it to be a separate tool because it uses bodhi's DB 15:52:34 <rpbarlow> well, unless that tool also used bodhi's DB i guess 15:53:13 <smooge> ok lets move this part to #fedora-admin. There will be another meeting here in 5 minutes 15:53:15 <rpbarlow> maybe a topic for further discussion another day i suppose - that's all i have on it ☺ 15:53:21 <smooge> ok cool 15:53:38 <smooge> thank you all again. see you next week. same bat-channel same bat time 15:53:42 <smooge> #endmeeting