16:01:47 <eddiejennings> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2021-09-09)
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16:02:08 <lenkaseg> .hi
16:02:09 <zodbot> lenkaseg: lenkaseg 'Lenka Segura' <lenka@sepu.cz>
16:02:16 <t0xic0der> .hello2
16:02:16 <nirik> morning
16:02:16 <zodbot> t0xic0der: t0xic0der 'Akashdeep Dhar' <akashdeep.dhar@gmail.com>
16:02:18 <eddiejennings> #meetingname infrastructure
16:02:18 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure'
16:02:25 <khallnayak> Hi
16:02:26 <mkonecny> .hello zlopez
16:02:27 <t0xic0der> o/
16:02:27 <zodbot> mkonecny: zlopez 'Michal Konecny' <michal.konecny@psmail.xyz>
16:02:35 <austinpowered> .hello
16:02:35 <zodbot> austinpowered: (hello <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "hellomynameis $1".
16:02:38 <dtometzki[m]> Hello together
16:02:42 <eddiejennings> I'm going off of a previous meeting's log :D
16:02:44 <petebuffon[m]> .hello petebuffon
16:02:45 <zodbot> petebuffon[m]: petebuffon 'Peter Buffon' <pabuffon@gmail.com>
16:02:51 <eddiejennings> .hi
16:02:51 <zodbot> eddiejennings: eddiejennings 'Eddie Jennings' <eddie@eddiejennings.net>
16:02:59 <mobrien> .hi
16:03:02 <zodbot> mobrien: mobrien 'Mark O'Brien' <markobri@redhat.com>
16:03:04 <khallnayak> .hi
16:03:05 <zodbot> khallnayak: khallnayak 'Mahij Momin' <mahijmomin@gmail.com>
16:03:12 <austinpowered> .hello austinpowered
16:03:13 <zodbot> austinpowered: austinpowered 'T.C. Williams' <fedoraproject@wootenwilliams.com>
16:03:19 <eddiejennings> Time appropriate greetings all! :D
16:03:22 <dtometzki[m]> .hi
16:03:23 <zodbot> dtometzki[m]: Sorry, but user 'dtometzki [m]' does not exist
16:03:52 <t0xic0der> dtometzki[m]: I guess, you'd have to use the ".hello" command with a nick
16:03:59 <eddiejennings> #chair
16:03:59 <zodbot> Current chairs: eddiejennings
16:04:17 <dtometzki[m]> Yes
16:04:27 <eddiejennings> Forgive me, folks.  Learning as I go :)
16:04:36 <mobrien> dtometzki:  the .hi command only works if your fas name is the same as your irc nick
16:04:58 <mkonecny> You can use .hello <fas_username> instead
16:05:00 <eddiejennings> #info Agenda is at: https://board.net/p/fedora-infra
16:05:25 <nirik> eddiejennings: no worries at all. Thanks for running things today!
16:05:33 <eddiejennings> #topic New folks introductions
16:05:38 <eddiejennings> Your'e welcome :)
16:05:54 <eddiejennings> Is there anyone present today who's new to the Fedora Infrastructure project?
16:06:07 <eddiejennings> If so, say hello and tells us a little about yourself :D
16:06:11 <khallnayak> Hi. I am new here
16:06:22 <eddiejennings> khallnayak: Welcome!
16:06:29 <t0xic0der> khallnayak: Welcome! :D
16:06:32 <dtometzki[m]> Hi
16:06:34 <lenkaseg> khallnayak: welcome!
16:07:08 <khallnayak> I am a tech lover with keen interest in automating stuff. I am new here and would love to start contributing to this awesome community
16:07:13 <mkonecny> khallnayak: welcome
16:07:20 <petebuffon[m]> welcome!
16:07:32 <mkonecny> Automation is always needed
16:07:34 <eddiejennings> You and I have similar interests, and there's plenty to be done
16:07:39 <khallnayak> Thanks all
16:07:43 <t0xic0der> Automating stuff - You like Ansible? :P
16:07:49 <khallnayak> Surely eddiejennings
16:08:05 <mobrien> welcome khallnayak feel free to reach out if you need help on anything
16:08:13 <khallnayak> Ansible is a boon for me t0xic0der 😃
16:08:27 <eddiejennings> Any other new folks joining us today?
16:08:50 <eddiejennings> If not, we'll move on in a moment.
16:09:25 <eddiejennings> #topic Next chair
16:09:39 <eddiejennings> #info magic eight ball says:
16:10:04 <eddiejennings> #info chair 2021-09-16 - dtometzki[m]
16:10:27 <eddiejennings> is 9/16 still good for you dtometzki[m] ?
16:10:28 <dtometzki[m]> Yes
16:10:36 <eddiejennings> Excellent!
16:10:43 <eddiejennings> Do we have any volunteers for 9/23?
16:10:47 <dtometzki[m]> Yes
16:11:04 <eddiejennings> You're on a roll!
16:11:15 <eddiejennings> #info chair 2021-09-23 dtometzki[m]
16:11:31 <eddiejennings> How about any volunteers for 9/30 to finish out the month?
16:11:38 <dtometzki[m]> No problem
16:11:47 <eddiejennings> Remember if eddiejennings can do it, anyone can! XD
16:11:54 <mobrien> I can take 9/30 haven't done it in a while
16:11:55 <t0xic0der> XD
16:12:19 <eddiejennings> Objections dtometzki[m] to mobrien taking 9/30?
16:13:37 <dtometzki[m]> It is ok for me
16:13:47 <eddiejennings> So it shall be!
16:13:57 <eddiejennings> #info chair 2021-09-30 mobrien
16:14:25 <eddiejennings> Should we go into October or is through 9/30 good?
16:15:19 <mobrien> Thats enough I'd say. If we go too far ahead it can sometimes be unreliable
16:15:34 <eddiejennings> +1
16:15:36 * nirik nods
16:15:41 <mkonecny> I think three meetings in advance is enough
16:15:41 <eddiejennings> Moving along
16:15:50 <eddiejennings> #topic announcements and information
16:16:02 <eddiejennings> #info CPE Infra&Releng EU-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1030 Europe/paris in #centos-meeting
16:16:14 <eddiejennings> #info CPE Infra&Releng NA-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1800 UTC in #fedora-meeting-3
16:16:31 <eddiejennings> #info If your team wants support from the Fedora Program Management Team, file an isssue: https://pagure.io/fedora-pgm/pgm_team/issues?template=support_request
16:16:50 <eddiejennings> #info Fedora 35 Beta freeze is now in effect 2021-08-24 -> 2021-09-14
16:17:06 <eddiejennings> #info Fedora 35 Beta freeze is now in effect 2021-08-24 -> 2021-09-14
16:17:08 <eddiejennings> bah
16:17:11 <nirik> sadly, the beta freeze is going to extend a week.
16:17:18 <eddiejennings> #info Fedora 35 Beta is NO-GO, today GO/NO-GO meeting is cancelled
16:17:58 <eddiejennings> Are there any other announcements?
16:18:31 <mkonecny> nirik: Yeah, there are still blockers
16:19:26 <eddiejennings> Seeing none, moving along.
16:19:29 <eddiejennings> #topic Oncall
16:19:47 <eddiejennings> #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Oncall
16:20:07 <eddiejennings> #info dtometzki on call for 2021-09-02 to 2021-09-09
16:20:18 <eddiejennings> Thus, dtometzki[m] is freee.  Volunteers for this week?
16:20:32 <dtometzki[m]> From my side no pings this week
16:20:51 <mkonecny> I can take it
16:21:20 <eddiejennings> General question:  Can apprentices be oncall despite limited access to stuff?
16:22:15 <dtometzki[m]> My info was yes
16:22:16 <mkonecny> eddiejennings: Yes, you don't need to have access
16:22:36 <eddiejennings> Then I'll take it after mkonecny
16:22:43 <eddiejennings> .oncall mkonecny
16:22:43 <zodbot> dtometzki is oncall. Please file a ticket if you don't hear from me ( https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues ) My current hours are 0600 UTC to 1400 UTC Monday through Friday
16:23:02 <eddiejennings> hmm.  something tells me that wasn't the right command
16:23:03 <mkonecny> You are just work as a filter for the pings, so the others could work without disruption
16:23:16 * nirik nods again
16:23:28 <mkonecny> .oncalltakeeu
16:23:28 <zodbot> mkonecny: Error: You don't have the alias.add capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
16:23:54 <petebuffon[m]> Something that was a little unclear for me when I was oncall a few weeks ago was what to do exactly when I had a ping I couldn't solve.
16:24:14 <eddiejennings> #info mkonecny oncall for 2021-09-10 to 2021-09-16
16:24:19 <mkonecny> I need to authenticate with zodbot first
16:24:20 <mobrien> petebuffon: ask them to raise a ticket
16:24:41 <eddiejennings> #info eddiejennings oncall for 2021-09-17 2021-09-23
16:24:43 <petebuffon[m]> mobrien: okay thanks :)
16:24:50 <eddiejennings> Any volunteers for the last week of September?
16:25:08 <nirik> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/day_to_day_fedora/
16:25:15 <mkonecny> Yes, if you don't know ask them to raise the ticket
16:25:18 <nirik> ^ thats a detailed list we should point people to
16:25:32 <mkonecny> If it's urgent ping somebody from the Fedora infra, who is available
16:25:42 <lenkaseg> sounds easy, I could do that too maybe :)
16:26:07 <eddiejennings> Added that link to the agenda
16:26:12 <eddiejennings> #info https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/day_to_day_fedora/
16:26:14 <nirik> thanks
16:26:26 <eddiejennings> lenkaseg: Confirmed :)
16:26:48 <eddiejennings> #info lenkaseg on call from 2021-09-24 to 2021-09-30
16:27:03 <eddiejennings> Movingi along
16:27:14 <eddiejennings> #info Summary of last week
16:27:23 <eddiejennings> Sounds like all was quiet
16:27:29 <petebuffon[m]> that's great! I couldn't exactly find that googling before
16:28:13 <eddiejennings> #topic Monitoring discussion [nirik]
16:28:21 <eddiejennings> #info https://nagios.fedoraproject.org/nagios
16:28:35 <eddiejennings> #info Go over existing out items and fix
16:28:45 <eddiejennings> nirik: The floor is yours
16:29:05 <nirik> lets see
16:29:09 <mkonecny> .oncalltakeeu
16:29:09 <zodbot> mkonecny: Kneel before zod!
16:29:13 <lenkaseg> eddiejennings: 👍️
16:29:45 <nirik> we are pretty much exactly where we were last week and since we are in freeze we haven't really changed much. ;)
16:30:13 <nirik> we have 3 down boxes...
16:30:31 <nirik> buildhw-a64-08.iad2.fedoraproject.org is down due to a networking issue... I should ask them to fix it.
16:30:52 <nirik> vmhost-x86-copr04.rdu-cc.fedoraproject.org mobrien was looking into fixing. it got a new motherboard and cpus and is confused
16:31:16 <nirik> worker03.ocp.iad2.fedoraproject.org is part of the new openshift cluster, it was having some weird problems provisioning.
16:31:30 <nirik> thats about it... we can move on.
16:31:36 <dtometzki[m]> It was quiet no pings
16:32:23 <eddiejennings> #topic Fedora Infra backlog refinement
16:32:38 <eddiejennings> #info Refine oldest tickets on https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues
16:34:06 <nirik> ok, anyone want to pull up old tickets and I can tell you why they are blocked. ;)
16:34:07 <eddiejennings> Oldest ticket was opened 4 years ago, do we really want to go back that far?
16:34:17 <mkonecny> Do we have a learning topic for today or not?
16:35:06 <mkonecny> I will, but if we have learning topic for today, it will be better to skip this section
16:35:08 <eddiejennings> We have nirik with robosignator if he's ready / willing?
16:35:52 <eddiejennings> bah, misread, that's 9/16
16:36:11 <eddiejennings> Do you want to go early mkonecny?
16:36:17 <eddiejennings> Looks like you on for 9/30
16:36:20 <mkonecny> This is planned for next meeting
16:36:22 <eddiejennings> /s/you/syou're
16:36:36 <nirik> yeah, I thought we were going to look at backlog since we did learning last time?
16:37:04 <mkonecny> So let's go through the tickets
16:37:14 <eddiejennings> Are there any specific tickets of interest, else I can start from the beginning?
16:37:45 <eddiejennings> .ticket 5478
16:37:46 <zodbot> eddiejennings: Issue #5478: Establishing a new FAS group for Python-SIG - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/5478
16:37:57 <eddiejennings> Our eldest.
16:38:08 <nirik> blocked on newer mailman to allow for changing the list name for the existing list.
16:38:25 <eddiejennings> .ticket 7361
16:38:26 <zodbot> eddiejennings: Issue #7361: Signing infrastructure for aarch64 - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/7361
16:38:28 <mkonecny> We wanted to do backlog refinement once per 2 weeks and the learning topic in between
16:38:37 <mkonecny> .ticket 9648
16:38:38 <zodbot> mkonecny: Issue #9648: IAD2: PDU bring up/configuration - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/9648
16:39:04 <eddiejennings> +1 mkonecny
16:39:12 <nirik> 7361: blocked on my hearing from pjones about it. I mailed him last time we did this but haven't heard back. I can try and catch him on irc.
16:39:22 <austinpowered> I missed last week due to travel. Looking at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org, I don't see any meeting minutes since 2021-08-19.
16:39:34 <nirik> 9648: I asked about this, but didn't get any answer, will try again.
16:39:38 <mkonecny> It's better to go with oldest modified, I updated the agenda
16:39:44 <mobrien> hopefully will be some movement on mailman in the next while
16:40:03 <mkonecny> Otherwise we are going through the same tickets over and over
16:40:03 <eddiejennings> mkonecny: thanks.  updated my sort
16:40:18 <eddiejennings> .ticket 8381
16:40:18 <zodbot> eddiejennings: Issue #8381: staging wiki auth from openqa-stg01.qa fails - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/8381
16:40:22 <mkonecny> It looks like the zodbot is slow on matrix today
16:41:13 <mkonecny> nirik: Could you also update the ticket?
16:41:32 <nirik> mkonecny: sure, give me a min
16:41:35 <mkonecny> So we know that we went through it?
16:41:54 <eddiejennings> ready for the next?
16:42:12 <mkonecny> austinpowered: This probably looks like ticket candidate
16:42:45 <eddiejennings> .ticket 9549
16:42:46 <zodbot> eddiejennings: Issue #9549: Tor hidden service for update metadata - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/9549
16:43:30 <nirik> ok, are we doing 8381 now or 9549?
16:43:49 <eddiejennings> My apologies.  I thoguth were were done with 8381
16:44:00 <eddiejennings> /s/thoguth/thought
16:44:17 <mkonecny> austinpowered: I can see that the meetbot doesn't see any meeting for some time, at least there is no meeting from yesterday and there definitely was some
16:44:38 <nirik> 8381 I haven't been able to track down... it has to be a expired or mismatched token, but last I tried I couldn't find it. I guess I should try and block off some time to really look again.
16:45:06 <nirik> mkonecny: thats due to the zodbot python3 coversion not sending fedora-messages. we have asked for help with it./..
16:45:13 <mkonecny> The latest logged infra meeting is from 2021-08-19
16:45:18 <nirik> the logs are all there on meetbot-raw.
16:45:25 <nirik> mote just doesn't know because there are no messages
16:45:35 <mobrien> austinpowered zlopez there is an issue with meetbot since the zodbot python 3 upgrade. Something to do with links
16:45:50 <mkonecny> mobrien: thanks
16:46:12 <mkonecny> nirik: Please continue on 8381
16:47:49 <nirik> nothing more to say?
16:48:07 <eddiejennings> Ok.  On to 9549
16:48:15 <eddiejennings> .ticket 9549
16:48:16 <zodbot> eddiejennings: Issue #9549: Tor hidden service for update metadata - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/9549
16:48:22 <mkonecny> I'm glad that we still have the logs
16:48:41 <nirik> this needs someone to actually look at what is involved and report back if it's easy/possible what we have to do to implement it.
16:49:03 <mkonecny> Let's keep the 8381 as it is and see if there will be any update till next backlog refinement
16:49:37 <mkonecny> I think we skipped 9647
16:49:39 <mkonecny> .ticket 9647
16:49:43 <zodbot> mkonecny: Issue #9647: IAD2: Mustang cleanup work - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/9647
16:51:03 <nirik> also no idea on this one, asked about it. will update ticket and ask in email
16:51:53 <mkonecny> It looks like zodbot is ignoring me on matrix :-/
16:52:22 <mobrien> Is zodbot really slow today or is it a matrix thing?
16:52:35 <eddiejennings> Zodbot's been snappy for me in IRC.
16:52:46 <mkonecny> It's only on matrix for me
16:52:50 <mkonecny> Let me try
16:53:00 <zlopez> .ticket 9647
16:53:01 <zodbot> zlopez: Issue #9647: IAD2: Mustang cleanup work - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/9647
16:53:21 <eddiejennings> zlopez's message was 12:53:00 for me and Zodbot's reply was 12:53:01
16:53:57 <mkonecny> I see quick response on IRC, but no response on matrix
16:54:25 <nirik> We just had them bridge #fedora to matrix, so it might be the bridge is really busy :)
16:54:44 <zlopez> And the bridge looks like desynced :-/
16:55:17 <zlopez> I'm missing some messages on matrix, that are already on IRC
16:55:38 <zlopez> Nevermind let's continue
16:56:03 <eddiejennings> Ah.  Five minutes left.  Want to look at one more ticket, or have a quick open discussino?
16:56:35 <mkonecny> Thanks nirik
16:56:51 <eddiejennings> One more ticket then. :) 9614
16:56:56 <eddiejennings> .ticket 9614
16:56:57 <zodbot> eddiejennings: Issue #9614: Container built for Fedora 33 has el6 dist - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/9614
16:57:15 <nirik> this one I have no idea on. ;) I guess perhaps we could just close it now?
16:57:19 <zlopez> Fedora 33 will be EOL soon
16:57:59 <eddiejennings> I'm all about closing tickets if they become irrelevant.
16:58:18 <zlopez> Now I see messages on matrix I sent 5 minutes ago o IRC :-D
16:58:19 <mobrien> Must be just matrix I guess
16:59:08 <eddiejennings> last ticket for the last minute 7377
16:59:10 <eddiejennings> .ticket 7377
16:59:11 <zodbot> eddiejennings: Issue #7377: SSH keys length can prevent user from login in Fedora infrastructure - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/7377
16:59:36 <zlopez> nirik: Let's check when F35 will be out and then we can close 9614
16:59:50 <nirik> ha. I just closed it. oh well.
17:00:24 <nirik> so, this one is blocked on pagure moving to OIDC. It's using openid currently, which has a limit on the length of cookies used for auth.
17:00:50 <nirik> but we could just close it and say "don't do that then" or wait for pagure to move.
17:01:05 <nirik> pagure moving to OIDC is blocked on ipsilon changes that no one has written yet
17:01:09 <zlopez> nirik: No problem, I don't think there would be any progress till F35 will be out
17:01:34 <zlopez> 9614 ^^
17:01:50 <zlopez> So we need some changes on ipsilon first
17:01:58 <zlopez> for 7377
17:02:15 <nirik> yep. ipsilon then pagure then fixed.
17:02:29 <zlopez> Ok, thanks for clarification
17:02:37 <zlopez> I think we can close the meeting now
17:02:53 <eddiejennings> If said changes are on the roadmap to be made, I'd say leave the ticket in the queue.
17:02:56 <dtometzki> so we will go forward next week
17:03:48 * nirik has to go feed cats before they riot.
17:03:48 <eddiejennings> We're a couple of minutes over.  Unless there's something else pressing, I move to end the meeting and continue discussions in #fedora-admin.
17:04:40 <eddiejennings> I'm hungry myself, thus. . .
17:04:42 <eddiejennings> #endmeeting