16:01:20 <petebuffon> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2022-03-24)
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16:01:20 <petebuffon> #meetingname infrastructure
16:01:20 <petebuffon> #chair nirik siddharthvipul mobrien zlopez pingou bodanel dtometzki jnsamyak computerkid
16:01:20 <petebuffon> #info Agenda is at: https://board.net/p/fedora-infra
16:01:20 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure'
16:01:20 <zodbot> Current chairs: bodanel computerkid dtometzki jnsamyak mobrien nirik petebuffon pingou siddharthvipul zlopez
16:01:20 <petebuffon> #info About our team: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/
16:01:21 <petebuffon> #topic greetings!
16:01:29 <petebuffon> morning everyone :)
16:01:37 <nirik> morning
16:01:56 <petebuffon> .hello petebuffon
16:01:57 <zodbot> petebuffon: petebuffon 'Peter Buffon' <pabuffon@gmail.com>
16:02:03 <phsmoura> morning
16:03:58 <petebuffon> #topic New folks introductions
16:03:59 <petebuffon> #info This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora Infrastructure can introduce themselves
16:03:59 <petebuffon> #info Getting Started Guide: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/GettingStarted
16:04:05 <petebuffon> any new folks here today?
16:05:35 <petebuffon> alright rolling right along then
16:05:47 <petebuffon> #topic Next chair
16:05:47 <petebuffon> #info magic eight ball says:
16:05:47 <petebuffon> #info chair 2022-03-24 - petebuffon
16:05:47 <petebuffon> #info chair 2022-03-31 - nirik
16:05:47 <petebuffon> ##info chair 2022-04-07 - ??
16:05:48 <petebuffon> ##info chair 2022-04-14 - ??
16:06:02 <petebuffon> any takers for chairing 04-07?
16:07:23 <mkonecny> petebuffon:  Will you start the meeting?
16:08:02 <jednorozec> mkonecny, <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Mar 24 16:01:20 2022 UTC.
16:08:20 <petebuffon> mkonecny: yeah I thought it was started.
16:08:26 <jednorozec> it is
16:08:38 <nirik> there's a big lag from matrix -> irc it seems
16:09:00 <petebuffon> ah yes I've experienced that before
16:09:31 <petebuffon> is there a solution for the matrix bridge lag in the works?
16:09:50 <nirik> dunno.
16:10:14 <mkonecny> #meetingname infrastructure
16:10:14 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure'
16:10:14 <zodbot> mkonecny: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.
16:10:14 <mkonecny> #chair nirik siddharthvipul mobrien zlopez pingou bodanel dtometzki jnsamyak computerkid
16:10:28 <jednorozec> mkonecny, the meeting is running
16:10:28 <mkonecny> #info Agenda is at: https://board.net/p/fedora-infra
16:10:28 <mkonecny> #info About our team: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/
16:10:28 <mkonecny> #topic greetings!
16:10:48 <zlopez> Oh, the bridge is broken :-/
16:10:54 <petebuffon> hmm
16:10:54 <nirik> zlopez: there's a bridge lag. ;(
16:11:02 <zlopez> I don't see anything on matrix
16:11:15 <petebuffon> back seat driver over here, hah
16:11:32 <zlopez> Let's continue on IRC than
16:11:58 <petebuffon> well we have a chair for next week so let's continue
16:12:06 <zlopez> Sorry for the confusion
16:12:07 * austinpowered sneaks in quietly hoping no one notices he is late
16:12:10 <austinpowered> .hi
16:12:11 <zodbot> austinpowered: austinpowered 'T.C. Williams' <fedoraproject@wootenwilliams.com>
16:12:17 <petebuffon> #topic announcements and information
16:12:17 <petebuffon> #info CPE Infra&Releng EU-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1030 Europe/paris in #centos-meeting
16:12:17 <petebuffon> #info CPE Infra&Releng NA-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1800 UTC in #fedora-meeting-3
16:12:17 <petebuffon> #info If your team wants support from the Fedora Program Management Team, file an isssue: https://pagure.io/fedora-pgm/pgm_team/issues?template=support_request
16:12:21 <petebuffon> #info matrix sig is forming, see https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/bi-weekly-meeting-for-matrix-sig-or-matrix-team/35947/3 if interested
16:12:24 <petebuffon> #info Bugzilla introduced breaking Authentication API change on 15th March
16:12:26 <petebuffon> #info Infrastructure freeze in place leading up to the Fedora 36 Beta release.
16:12:28 <petebuffon> #info thread on fedoraplanet on infrastructure list, chime in if you have thoughts on it
16:12:30 <petebuffon> anyone have anything else to announce?
16:12:58 <nirik> not off hand
16:13:23 <nirik[m]> I wonder if the bridge is any better now?
16:14:17 <petebuffon[m]> I have matrix open as well, we’ll see if it can keep up
16:14:37 <petebuffon> moving on
16:14:38 <petebuffon> #topic Oncall
16:14:38 <petebuffon> #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Oncall
16:14:38 <petebuffon> #info https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/day_to_day_fedora/
16:14:38 <petebuffon> ## .oncalltakeeu .oncalltakeus
16:14:38 <petebuffon> #info nirik on call from 2022-03-18 to 2022-03-24
16:14:39 <petebuffon> #info eddiejennings on call from 2022-03-25 to 2022-03-31
16:14:41 <petebuffon> #info petebuffon on call from 2022-04-01 to 2022-04-07
16:14:43 <petebuffon> ##info ?? on call from 2022-04-08 to 2022-04-14
16:14:56 <nirik> .oncalltakeus
16:14:56 <zodbot> nirik: Kneel before zod!
16:15:03 <petebuffon> #info Summary of last week: (from current oncall )
16:15:12 <nirik> eddiejennings said he might not be here..
16:15:17 <eddiejennings> I'm here :D
16:15:23 <nirik> ah, cool.
16:15:23 <eddiejennings> .oncalltakeus
16:15:23 <zodbot> eddiejennings: Error: You don't have the alias.add capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
16:15:33 <eddiejennings> whoami
16:15:34 <petebuffon> any pings this week?
16:15:38 <eddiejennings> .whoami
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16:16:42 <eddiejennings> .oncalltakeus
16:16:42 <zodbot> eddiejennings: Kneel before zod!
16:16:51 <petebuffon> nice
16:16:56 <nirik> oh right, it was me this last week.
16:18:01 <nirik> report from this last week: no pings. all quiet. 🦗's
16:18:33 <petebuffon> chirp cirp
16:18:40 <petebuffon> #topic Monitoring discussion [nirik]
16:18:40 <petebuffon> #info https://nagios.fedoraproject.org/nagios
16:18:40 <petebuffon> #info Go over existing out items and fix
16:19:29 <nirik> ok, not much change here really...
16:20:19 <nirik> I think we can just move on.
16:20:23 <petebuffon> simple, I like it
16:21:01 <petebuffon> I noticed we don't have any learning topics scheduled, would we want to take some time to work on that or go straight into backlog refinement?
16:21:24 <nirik> might be good to line up some learning topics... what do people want to hear about?
16:23:00 <eddiejennings> In a week I may have suggestions.  I now have time to get back to reading tickets and re-digging into apprenticeship :D
16:26:03 <nirik> I'm happy to talk on any number of things, but not sure what folks would find most interesting.
16:26:15 <petebuffon> maybe something about package building, fedora 36 changes. I've been learning about mqtt as well recently
16:26:46 <eddiejennings> For me personally anything related to how we leverage Ansible in our infrastructure is always of interest
16:26:57 <petebuffon> eddiejennings: yes
16:27:32 <nirik> oh hey, how about I talk about the upstream ansible changes and how they affect us... ansible 5 and such.
16:27:57 <petebuffon> sounds good to me
16:28:00 <eddiejennings> Would be nifty.
16:28:08 <phsmoura> nirik: that would be cool
16:28:14 <eddiejennings> Need to look at that myself.  My mind lives in 2.9 :D
16:28:27 <nirik> I'll sign up for next week for that
16:28:39 <austinpowered> upstrean ansible++
16:28:39 <zodbot> austinpowered: Karma for ansible changed to 1 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
16:29:29 <nirik> any other topics someone might want to present on?
16:30:06 <nirik> There's a old ticket about offering mirrorlist and other services via tor... and that needs someone to figure out whats involved, but that might make a nice topic if someone wants to take it on.
16:30:42 <petebuffon> I could talk about tor, I'd need to do some research
16:31:00 <eddiejennings> I think I volunterred to research that a long time ago.  I could take it on again, but I would be starting my learning from the level of "has never used Tor"
16:31:13 <petebuffon> I have the high level idea, but the inner workings are really interesting
16:31:16 <nirik> yeah, I personally know very little about tor.
16:31:32 <nirik> perhaps you two could colloborate on it? :)
16:31:38 <petebuffon> perfect
16:31:43 <eddiejennings> sure
16:32:29 <petebuffon> got it :)
16:33:12 <petebuffon> alright backlog then
16:33:14 <petebuffon> #topic Fedora Infra backlog refinement
16:33:15 <petebuffon> #info Refine oldest tickets on Fedora Infra tracker
16:33:15 <petebuffon> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues?status=Open&order_key=last_updated&order=asc
16:33:15 <nirik> cool. so, want to sign up for apr 14th to talk about it? (that gives you a deadline)
16:33:56 <petebuffon> ah yes I put it in board.net
16:34:46 <petebuffon> .ticket 8455
16:34:49 <zodbot> petebuffon: Issue #8455: Move mailman to newer release of Fedora or CentOS - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/8455
16:34:58 <eddiejennings> Deadlines make my life easier.  Gives me focus :)
16:35:20 <nirik> so, this is still in progress.
16:35:33 <nirik> salimma was going to try and work on it some more, but not sure how far he got.
16:35:37 <petebuffon> eddiejennings: exactly, and then I can procrastinate until right before the deadline
16:35:45 * eddiejennings laughs.
16:36:00 <Ebeneezer_Smooge> how hard would it be to make this Fedora ?
16:36:30 <nirik> looks like only 4 bugs left on the tracker
16:37:55 <nirik> I added a comment asking how we could best help and if we could get it over the line now.
16:38:21 <nirik> Ebeneezer_Smooge: no idea. I think for some things fedora is easier, but for others harder (to new)
16:39:28 <petebuffon> .ticket 10297
16:39:29 <zodbot> petebuffon: Issue #10297: Fedora Account system email login causes bad user experience on Ask Fedora / Fedora Discussion - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/10297
16:39:51 <nirik> this was blocked on new ipsilon version... which was blocked by new python-pam version
16:40:12 <nirik> I know abompard tried to unblock it recently, but I don't know if he was successfull.
16:40:22 <petebuffon> hmm okay
16:41:01 <nirik> I'll update the ticket with what I know.
16:41:16 <petebuffon> great
16:41:26 <abompard> Yeah so there's a new python-pam version available but it's not in Fedora yet
16:41:32 <abompard> it should unblock all the rest
16:42:27 <nirik> abompard: are they willing to update it? or no?
16:42:40 <nirik> if no, we should just build in infra tags. ;)
16:43:02 <abompard> it's a new major version, and in the past they have been reluctant to update to backwards-incompatible version mid-release
16:43:11 <abompard> I have already built it in infra :-)
16:43:13 <nirik> sure, understandable
16:43:26 <abompard> but then we need an Ipsilon update which will depend on it
16:43:37 <abompard> and depending on an infra-only rpm is no good
16:43:47 <abompard> so we could also build ipsilon in infra-tag
16:43:59 <abompard> but I haven't done so yet
16:44:00 <nirik> yep. Thats what I would suggest...
16:44:16 <nirik> just until things catch up in regular releases.
16:44:20 <abompard> yeah
16:44:55 <abompard> I need to do it anyway because we need a new ipsilon feature for the bodhi update
16:44:58 <nirik> cool. If you could do that and roll to stg, we can test and hopefully update prod after freeze. ;)
16:45:13 <abompard> OK cool
16:45:55 <nirik> great! I think this also unblocks some other tickets...
16:46:39 <petebuffon> .ticket 9549
16:46:40 <zodbot> petebuffon: Issue #9549: Tor hidden service for update metadata - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/9549
16:47:15 <nirik> thats the one we talked about eariler... if you could update it that would be great. ;)
16:47:54 <nirik> 9846 is the other ipsilon one I think.
16:48:34 <petebuffon> .ticket 9846
16:48:35 <zodbot> petebuffon: Issue #9846: openid_login() from python-fedora to id.fedoraproject.org fails with 500 when you forget 2nd factor - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/9846
16:51:50 <petebuffon> last one and then open floor?
16:51:56 <nirik> sure
16:52:06 <petebuffon> I updated 9549
16:52:39 <petebuffon> .ticket 10120
16:52:40 <zodbot> petebuffon: Issue #10120: Investigate forwarding centralised logs to splunk - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/10120
16:54:22 <nirik> so, this didn't go anywhere... I guess I can look at moving it forward.
16:54:28 <nirik> or just closing it perhaps
16:55:33 <petebuffon> alright
16:56:28 <nirik> I'll look and update it soon.
16:56:41 <petebuffon> great
16:56:42 <nirik> I can't recall the exact state of the internal ticket. I think they closed it.
16:56:59 <petebuffon> #topic Open Floor
16:58:34 <eddiejenningsjr> Personal plug:  Officially on the job hunt for a sysadmin gig that's not 100% windows, should any of you or your companies have openings :D
16:59:14 * nirik has no open floor issues.
16:59:26 <nirik> eddiejenningsjr: good luck on the hunt... I'll keep an eye out
16:59:32 <eddiejenningsjr> :D
17:00:45 <petebuffon> thanks everyone and good luck eddiejennings!
17:00:48 <petebuffon> #endmeeting