16:00:48 <eddiejennings> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2022-06-02)
16:00:48 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Jun  2 16:00:48 2022 UTC.
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16:01:06 <eddiejennings> #meetingname infrastructure
16:01:06 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure'
16:01:06 <eddiejennings> #chair nirik siddharthvipul mobrien zlopez bodanel dtometzki jnsamyak computerkid
16:01:06 <zodbot> Current chairs: bodanel computerkid dtometzki eddiejennings jnsamyak mobrien nirik siddharthvipul zlopez
16:01:24 <eddiejennings> #info Agenda is at: https://board.net/p/fedora-infra
16:01:24 <eddiejennings> #info About our team: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/
16:01:24 <eddiejennings> #info Fedora Infra documentation: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra
16:01:36 <eddiejennings> #topic greetings!
16:01:41 <eddiejennings> .hi
16:01:42 <zodbot> eddiejennings: eddiejennings 'Eddie Jennings' <eddie@eddiejennings.net>
16:01:53 <nikolay__> hi
16:02:06 <mkonecny> .hello zlopez
16:02:07 <zodbot> mkonecny: zlopez 'Michal Konecny' <michal.konecny@psmail.xyz>
16:02:33 <nirik> morning
16:02:47 <eddiejennings> Greetings, all!
16:03:21 <eddiejennings> Welcome to the Magical Mystery Tour -- I mean weekly Fedora Infrastructure Meeting
16:03:43 <eddiejennings> #topic New folks introductions
16:03:44 <eddiejennings> #info This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora Infrastructure can introduce themselves
16:03:44 <eddiejennings> #info Getting Started Guide: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/GettingStarted
16:03:51 <eddiejennings> Do we have any new folks with us today?
16:05:36 <eddiejennings> Don't be shy!  We won't bite.  And the tour is free!
16:06:15 <darknao> .hi
16:06:16 <zodbot> darknao: darknao 'Francois Andrieu' <darknao@drkn.ninja>
16:06:35 <eddiejennings> All right, moving on.  First stop:  The next chair
16:06:52 <eddiejennings> #topic Next chair
16:06:52 <eddiejennings> #info magic eight ball says:
16:06:52 <eddiejennings> #info chair 2022-05-26 - mobrien
16:06:52 <eddiejennings> #info chair 2022-06-02 - eddiejennings
16:06:52 <eddiejennings> #info chair 2022-06-09 - petebuffon
16:06:52 <petebuffon> .hello petebuffon
16:06:53 <zodbot> petebuffon: petebuffon 'Peter Buffon' <pabuffon@gmail.com>
16:07:10 <eddiejennings> Do we have any takers for 2022-06-16?
16:07:28 <petebuffon> unfortunately I can't chair next week (6-09)
16:08:29 <eddiejennings> You are in luck.  I am now available next week, so I can chair on 2022-06-09 as well. :D
16:08:51 <eddiejennings> How about 2022-06-16?
16:09:04 <mkonecny> I can take it
16:09:50 <petebuffon> eddiejennings: thanks :)
16:09:56 <eddiejennings> the 9th or the 16th?
16:10:08 <eddiejennings> I can take the one that you don't, mkonecny
16:10:27 <mkonecny> 16th
16:10:32 <eddiejennings> sold!
16:10:43 <eddiejennings> #info chair 2022-06-09 - eddiejennings
16:10:53 <eddiejennings> #info chair 2022-06-16 - mkonecy
16:10:59 <eddiejennings> Thank you! :D
16:12:35 <eddiejennings> Anyone for 2022-06-23?  Two weeks in advance is fine, but I figure I'd ask.
16:14:13 <eddiejennings> Hearing none.  We move on to the next stop.
16:14:14 <eddiejennings> #topic announcements and information
16:14:28 <eddiejennings> #info CPE Infra&Releng EU-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1030 Europe/paris in #centos-meeting
16:14:28 <eddiejennings> #info CPE Infra&Releng NA-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1800 UTC in #fedora-meeting-3
16:14:28 <eddiejennings> #info If your team wants support from the Fedora Program Management Team, file an isssue: https://pagure.io/fedora-pgm/pgm_team/issues?template=support_request
16:14:28 <eddiejennings> #info please help us with improving contribution to fedora infra https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/improving-contribution-to-fedora-infrastructure/38294/8
16:14:31 <eddiejennings> #info oncall should also handling #fedora-releng pings if possible
16:14:33 <eddiejennings> #info the-new-hotness 1.2.0 is released. See changelog at https://github.com/fedora-infra/the-new-hotness/releases/tag/1.2.0
16:14:36 <eddiejennings> #info Map of the critical services in Fedora Infra is now available at https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra/map_critical_services/
16:14:39 <eddiejennings> I also saw a tweet from Matthew Miller about a survey
16:15:46 <darknao> The contributor survey: https://fedoraproject.limequery.com/2022
16:15:49 <eddiejennings> Any other announcements?
16:16:13 <mkonecny> #info Fedora annual contributor survey is now available https://fedoraproject.limequery.com/2022
16:16:14 <eddiejennings> #info Take the contributor survey! https://fedoraproject.limequery.com/2022
16:16:28 <mkonecny> :-D
16:16:31 <eddiejennings> I like your's better :)
16:17:14 <eddiejennings> Any other announcements?
16:17:33 <eddiejennings> How's Matrix keeping up for you on Matrix?
16:17:50 <mkonecny> Without issue
16:18:48 <nirik> for once.
16:21:31 <eddiejennings> Excellent.  Sorry for the pause.  Work summoned me for a moment
16:21:43 <eddiejennings> Moving along.  Next stop on the tour is oncall
16:22:05 <eddiejennings> #topic Oncall
16:22:05 <eddiejennings> #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Oncall
16:22:05 <eddiejennings> #info https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/day_to_day_fedora/
16:22:05 <eddiejennings> ## .oncalltakeeu .oncalltakeus
16:22:05 <eddiejennings> #info nirik on call from 2022-06-03 to 2022-06-09
16:22:21 <nirik> .oncalltakeus
16:22:21 <zodbot> nirik: Kneel before zod!
16:22:53 <eddiejennings> Takers for 2022-06-10 to 2022-06-16?
16:23:10 <petebuffon> i can take it
16:24:00 <eddiejennings> sold!
16:24:20 <eddiejennings> #info petebuffon on call from 2022-06-10 to 2022-06-16
16:25:14 <eddiejennings> bah, meant that for 2022-06-09
16:25:39 <eddiejennings> Takers for the week after?  2022-06-16 to 2022-06-23?
16:26:52 <eddiejennings> I'll take it, since I'm chairing on the 16th :)
16:27:15 <eddiejennings> #info eddiejennings on call from 2022-06-16 to 2022-06-23
16:27:42 <eddiejennings> #info Summary of last week: (from current oncall )
16:27:51 <eddiejennings> Last oncall, taketh the floor!
16:28:12 <darknao> nothing to report
16:28:19 <darknao> no ping this week
16:29:04 <eddiejennings> No news is good news :D
16:29:30 <eddiejennings> Next on the tour, we stop at the wise and friendly nirik
16:29:34 <eddiejennings> #topic Monitoring discussion [nirik]
16:29:45 <eddiejennings> #info https://nagios.fedoraproject.org/nagios
16:29:45 <eddiejennings> #info Go over existing out items and fix
16:29:51 <eddiejennings> The floor is yours!
16:30:13 <nirik> ok, thanks.
16:30:23 <nirik> So, we have just one down mgmt interface... so thats good.
16:30:58 <nirik> I don't think anything stands out too much... mostly usual alerts and etc
16:32:04 <eddiejennings> Noted. :)
16:32:26 <eddiejennings> We had a learning topic last week, so we'll choose another path and come to a stop at tickets!
16:32:43 <eddiejennings> #topic Fedora Infra backlog refinement
16:32:43 <eddiejennings> #info Refine oldest tickets on Fedora Infra tracker
16:32:43 <eddiejennings> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues?status=Open&order_key=last_updated&order=asc
16:33:11 <eddiejennings> (as soon as the page loads for me :)
16:33:38 <eddiejennings> .ticket 10340
16:33:39 <zodbot> eddiejennings: Issue #10340: content lost from wiki without audit trail - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/10340
16:35:00 <nirik> so... I just have never had time to go look into this. I think the data is still there, it just got messed up in the last wiki upgrade.
16:35:18 <nirik> but... wiki needs upgraded again soon, so I can look at this at the same time I guess.
16:35:23 * nirik dislikes mysql.
16:35:51 <eddiejennings> Is the wiki eventually going away for the new (current) docs pages?
16:36:00 <nirik> no.
16:36:16 <nirik> the wiki is still used by qa for all test results and other groups for various things.
16:36:24 <eddiejennings> Noted.
16:36:35 <nirik> it might go away someday, but only after all the other folks using it move off it.
16:36:55 <eddiejennings> Yeah
16:37:03 <eddiejennings> Next ticket
16:37:13 <eddiejennings> .ticket 10358
16:37:13 * mkonecny updating ticket
16:37:19 <zodbot> eddiejennings: Issue #10358: IPA backup fails on ipa03 and ipa02.stg - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/10358
16:39:02 <nirik> this is because 01 only has the KRA setup... so it's a complex pile of stuff we haven't had cycles to get through.
16:39:31 <eddiejennings> One day, I'll need to learn what KRA is :)
16:40:26 <nirik> key archival and recovery
16:40:39 <nirik> it's basically a vault type thing you can store secrets into
16:40:43 * eddiejennings nods.
16:40:51 <nirik> we don't actually use it for anything currently.
16:41:13 <nirik> perhaps I could check with abompard and see if he has cycles to look more into it...
16:41:23 <eddiejennings> Sounds like it could just go away
16:41:43 <nirik> yeah, the trick is removing it... or making it deplicate to all of them...
16:41:48 <nirik> I guess I can try removing it from 01...
16:42:48 <eddiejennings> Shall I update the ticket?
16:42:49 <x3mboy> .hello2
16:42:50 <zodbot> x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' <eduardlucena@gmail.com>
16:43:01 <mkonecny> nirik: What will be the impact if we remove it?
16:43:30 <nirik> removing it could be an option, but I don't have any idea how to do that. There's no uninstall command like there's an install command. ;)
16:44:16 <mkonecny> Hm
16:44:29 <nirik> it may not be possible to uninstall? dunno.
16:45:11 <nirik> I suppose we could reinstall the one that has it... it wouldn't have anywhere to replicate from then... but not sure if that would just mess up the cluster.
16:45:53 <mkonecny> Commented on the ticket
16:46:33 <eddiejennings> Excellent.  Moving along
16:46:49 <eddiejennings> .ticket 9728
16:46:50 <zodbot> eddiejennings: Issue #9728: [rfe] src.fedoraproject.org:/forks/... is not in the list of allowed SCMs - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/9728
16:47:37 <nirik> oh yeah, this one...
16:47:59 <nirik> I didn't quite understand the proposed policy, so was going to re-read it and try and figure it out.
16:48:06 <nirik> We should be able to add policy now to solve it.
16:49:06 <nirik> I guess thats a new section in the hub policy
16:49:27 <mkonecny> There seems to be some guide from tkopecek
16:50:41 <nirik> yeah, just seems confusing to me... but koji policy is always that way. ;(
16:51:22 <mkonecny> Maybe trying it first on staging
16:52:05 <nirik> yeah
16:52:44 <mkonecny> Updated the ticket
16:53:48 <eddiejennings> Excellent.  We have 7 minutes left.  Shall we do another ticket or move to open floor?
16:54:46 <eddiejennings> Executive decision time, by the power vested in me as chair
16:54:47 <eddiejennings> #topic Open Floor
16:55:23 <nirik> wow. look how wide and open this floor looks...
16:55:42 <eddiejennings> For those wanting to contribute to the Ansible repo, I want to confirm my thinking of the work flow is correct.
16:55:55 <nirik> sure...
16:57:18 <eddiejennings> 1.  Fork Pagure.io Ansible repo into your own account.  2.  Make a new branch from your forked repo.  3.  Do you work.  4.  Push branch of your forked repo from local machine Pagure.  5.  Open merge request of your forked repo branch (not the main branch) into the upstream Pagure.io Ansible repo
16:57:48 <mkonecny> This is correct way :-)
16:57:49 <nirik> yep. exactly right
16:58:11 <nirik> if you need more commits you can push them to the same branch and the PR will update...
16:58:21 <x3mboy> I'm still working in the Getting Started and the Apprentice docs
16:58:25 <eddiejennings> Excellent.  So you would not merge your new branch of your forked repo into the main branch of your forked repo.
16:58:32 <x3mboy> I think I should send a new commit today
16:59:00 <eddiejennings> All you would be really doing with the main branch of your forked repo is just fetching updates from upstream, so when you then make another new branch, that branch will be up to date.
16:59:20 <x3mboy> eddiejennings: I don't understand. My git powers don't go further than git add, git pull, git push git commit and git clone
16:59:31 <mkonecny> I noticed that https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra/overview/ is pretty empty :-/
16:59:37 <eddiejennings> Your folks' confirmation of my understanding will both positively affect Fedora *and* my work.
17:00:20 <eddiejennings> x3mboy, I'll continue the discussion in #fedora-admin and explain what I mean (and nirik and the others can chime in to correct my mistakes)
17:00:49 <eddiejennings> And with that, it's 17:00 UTC.  Meeting adjourned!
17:00:58 <eddiejennings> Thanks for coming on the magical mystery tour folks!
17:01:11 <eddiejennings> #endmeeting