16:00:39 #startmeeting Infrastructure (2022-08-18) 16:00:39 Meeting started Thu Aug 18 16:00:39 2022 UTC. 16:00:39 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 16:00:39 The chair is dtometzki. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 16:00:39 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 16:00:39 The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure_(2022-08-18)' 16:00:39 #meetingname infrastructure 16:00:39 The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure' 16:00:39 #chair nirik siddharthvipul mobrien zlopez bodanel dtometzki jnsamyak computerkid 16:00:39 Current chairs: bodanel computerkid dtometzki jnsamyak mobrien nirik siddharthvipul zlopez 16:00:39 #info Agenda is at: https://board.net/p/fedora-infra 16:00:39 #info About our team: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/ 16:00:40 #info Fedora Infra documentation: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra 16:00:42 #topic greetings! 16:00:54 .hi 16:00:55 dtometzki: dtometzki 'Damian Tometzki' 16:00:58 morning everyone 16:00:59 hello 16:01:07 .hello petebuffon 16:01:08 petebuffon: petebuffon 'Peter Buffon' 16:01:53 .hi 16:01:54 phsmoura: phsmoura 'Pedro Moura' 16:02:01 .hi 16:02:02 mobrien: mobrien 'Mark O'Brien' 16:02:16 hello together 16:03:02 .hello zlopez 16:03:03 mkonecny: zlopez 'Michal Konecny' 16:03:57 hello and let us go to the next topic 16:04:02 #topic New folks introductions 16:04:02 #info This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora Infrastructure can introduce themselves 16:04:02 #info Getting Started Guide: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/GettingStarted 16:04:32 are there new folks around? feel free to introduce yourselves ? 16:06:10 seems there arent. Then we go forward 16:06:18 #topic Next chair 16:06:18 #info magic eight ball says: 16:06:18 #info chair 2022-08-25 - nirik 16:06:18 #info chair 2022-09-01 - EddieJenningsJr[ 16:06:18 #info chair 2022-09-08 - ??? 16:06:18 .hi 16:06:19 jonathanspw: jonathanspw 'Jonathan Wright' 16:06:46 is anyone available for 09-08 ? 16:06:59 I can take it 16:07:06 thankk 16:07:24 #info chair 2022-09-08 - mkonecny 16:07:28 * EddieJenningsJr[ is in training at work and lost track of time. 16:08:04 ok then 16:08:09 #topic announcements and information 16:08:09 #info CPE Infra&Releng EU-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1030 Europe/paris in #centos-meeting 16:08:09 #info CPE Infra&Releng NA-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1800 UTC in #fedora-meeting-3 16:08:09 #info If your team wants support from the Fedora Program Management Team, file an isssue: https://pagure.io/fedora-pgm/pgm_team/issues?template=support_request 16:08:11 #info please help us with improving contribution to fedora infra https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/improving-contribution-to-fedora-infrastructure/38294/8 16:08:14 #info oncall should also handling #fedora-releng pings if possible 16:08:40 any other news or announcements ? 16:08:44 #info F37 Beta freeze starting next week 16:08:46 #info F37 beta freeze starts next tuesday 16:08:49 ha. ;) 16:08:53 beat me to it Zlopez 16:09:19 First :-D 16:09:20 great 16:10:15 no more information then we go to next topic 16:10:19 Yay! Though my home lab hypervisor is still F35 :P 16:10:20 #topic Oncall 16:10:20 #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Oncall 16:10:20 #info https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/day_to_day_fedora/ 16:10:20 ## .oncalltakeeu .oncalltakeus 16:10:20 #info mobrien is on call from 2022-08-12 to 2022-08-18 16:10:21 #info dtometzki is on call from 2022-08-19 to 2022-08-25 16:10:23 #info EddieJenningsJr[ is on call from 2022-08-26 to 2022-09-01 16:10:25 #info phsmoura is on call from 2022-09-02 to 2022-09-08 16:10:27 #info Summary of last week: (from current oncall ) 16:11:07 mobrien any info from last week ? 16:12:14 I got no pings 16:12:26 There was some ddos on pagure today 16:12:54 ok 16:12:59 but otherwise nothing to note 16:13:40 thank you 16:13:47 #topic Monitoring discussion [nirik] 16:13:47 #info https://nagios.fedoraproject.org/nagios 16:13:47 #info Go over existing out items and fix 16:13:56 lets see... 16:14:21 we have a power9 box still down waiting for a full power cycle at the DC... 16:15:01 otherwise the normal small things. 16:15:18 Our big alerts these days seems to be badges backend getting stuck. ;( 16:15:45 so nothing too big to note... we can move on 16:16:07 ok then we go to the backlog 16:16:12 #topic Revisit blocked tickets 16:16:12 #info Check if any blocked ticket is unblocked 16:16:12 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues?status=Open&tags=blocked&priority=0&close_status= 16:17:14 .tcket 10372 16:17:20 .ticket 10372 16:17:21 dtometzki: Issue #10372: [proposal] Move Pagure (pagure.io and src.fp.o) to use OIDC for web login - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/10372 16:17:47 is the first in the list 16:17:50 lets not go thru these one by one. 16:18:00 lets just look over and if anyone thinks one is unblocked we can look at it. 16:18:09 ok 16:18:25 * nirik waits for pagure 16:18:34 then let us check 16:19:56 ok. I think all those are still mostly stalled. 16:20:13 abompard has been working on 8291 some... but it's not done. 16:20:23 actually we can probibly mark it unblocked 16:21:00 nirik can you update the ticket ? 16:21:22 yep. 16:21:27 thnaks 16:21:49 for 8455 16:21:57 oh, I misread, this is the one thats blocked by another one adding the perms. 16:22:21 Do we need to do that? Could we use a vanilla installation of mailman on openshift? 16:22:46 mobrien: in theory we could, but would need someone to investigate/prove it can work 16:22:48 I've done no research into it just wondering if there is an obvious blocker 16:23:43 ok let me see if I can gather some momentum for arc work on that 16:23:51 ok. 16:24:01 good 16:24:07 so I guess we could go on to the normal backlog now? 16:24:16 yeah 16:24:21 #topic Fedora Infra backlog refinement 16:24:22 #info Refine oldest tickets on Fedora Infra tracker 16:24:22 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues?status=Open&order_key=last_updated&order=asc 16:24:45 any updates about any of those? 16:25:23 we can go thru these one by one. ;) 16:25:32 .ticket 9852 16:25:33 dtometzki: Issue #9852: DNS Mini-initiative - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/9852 16:25:47 so... lets see here. 16:26:54 one of the dns servers is on rhel9 now. 16:27:03 That one's been around since I joined the project. 16:27:21 :-) 16:27:22 I'm inclined to just close it personally, but I might be missing something. 16:27:42 last entry about 4 month 16:28:20 cant we close it ? 16:28:21 we sorted our our signatures. We need low TTL because we use it to add/remove proxies from our network 16:29:09 it's anoying to clear our history every once in a while, but it's nice to distribute with git. 16:29:28 it is mor the 1 year old 16:29:36 it is more then 1 year old 16:30:15 ok. let me comment on it and close it, and if anyone disagrees they can re-open it. ;) 16:30:37 good 16:30:51 .ticket 10241 16:30:52 dtometzki: Issue #10241: Port apps to OIDC - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/10241 16:32:19 mkonecny: any news on this one? probibly the same as before? 16:32:44 Let me check 16:33:21 I would say this is a requirement in the FMN rewrite that is currently underway so thats one at least 16:33:32 The FMN is being worked on, so the next version should be with OIDC 16:33:33 Otherwise no change 16:34:25 mkonecny would you update the ticket ? 16:34:38 I will 16:34:59 .ticket 9692 16:35:00 dtometzki: Issue #9692: STG: Move bvmhosts to new server - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/9692 16:35:34 still not done I don't think? mobrien was gonna, then I was gonna, then him... 16:35:44 I can try and do them. 16:35:58 This has the same update as before, it takes time that we rarely have spare 16:36:18 one of us will get to it eventually I'm sure of it 🙂 16:36:21 :-) 16:36:52 .ticket 9863 16:36:53 dtometzki: Issue #9863: Cannot login to redhat bugzilla - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/9863 16:37:25 so, this one is poorly titled... 16:37:46 basically it's 'we don't use bugzilla_email setting from account system anywhere, but we should' 16:38:18 I think we are at the point where it needs to be updated in toddlers and we need to announce when we are enabling it? 16:38:33 There is now a fasjson PR, that is being reviewed for this 16:38:43 ah, I thought that was already in... 16:38:44 https://github.com/fedora-infra/fasjson/pull/371 16:39:16 ah, ok. you couldn't search on it? 16:39:29 And the toddler one is ready as well https://pagure.io/fedora-infra/toddlers/pull-request/119 16:39:39 But waiting for the fasjson 16:40:10 mkonecny: cool! Do we know how much it might change? ie, can we do a dry run and see what it would change so we know how best to announce it? 16:41:15 ie, how many maintainers email addres/bugzilla account will change? (hopefully as close to none as possible) 16:41:50 In toddlers this will basically, just try to find user in FAS by bugzilla e-mail and if it can't find him, it will try to search Bugzilla e-mail field 16:41:51 oh, and also we need to change ipsilon saml2 to log users in with bugzilla email / account instead of main email. 16:41:58 I don't think much will change 16:42:31 it should check bugzilla_email and then fallback to main email... since many/most people never set bugzilla_email probibly 16:44:11 I think it doesn't matter, the e-mail is unique, so it will be either the main e-mail or bugzilla_email, but the toddlers will check both, the order is irrelevant 16:44:47 hum... 16:45:16 well, the idea is that you have different emails for main email and bugzilla_email and you want to use your bugzilla_email for all your bugzilla things. 16:45:38 if you are a package maintainer you want your bugs assigned/cc'ed to your bugzilla_email if it exists right? 16:46:13 Yes, I see where are you heading with this 16:46:15 thats why I was wondering how much might change... 16:46:49 but I guess we don't need to figure this here... we could take it out of meeting. ;) 16:47:01 ok 16:47:05 But my understanding is that it would use bugzilla_email if you set one, but otherwise fallabck 16:47:49 .ticket 10632 16:47:50 dtometzki: Issue #10632: rhel9 adoption - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/10632 16:48:30 nirik: Ok, I see that when retrieving bugzilla mails for user I'm looking for bugzilla mail first, but when trying to search for user by bugzilla mail, I'll first try the main email and then bugzilla_mail 16:48:40 so I have moved some machines... I want to write up a plan on this one, so will update it soon. 16:49:21 I can change that, if it would be a problem, but we can talk more about it outside the meeting 16:49:46 great nirik 16:49:47 mkonecny: hum, not sure. I guess I don't understand when you need to search for user by bugzilla email... 16:50:51 .ticket 9746 16:50:52 dtometzki: Issue #9746: move fmn / notifs to python3 and supported os - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/9746 16:51:18 ah, our old friend. 16:51:29 mkonecny: did you have a chance to look at email sending in staging? 16:51:34 nirik: When you have the bugzilla ticket and want to check, if the user exists in FAS and has a specific group 16:52:20 ahhhh... ok. Yeah, for that I guess it doesn't matter which order you do them in... but ideally if they set bugzilla_user that should be the one they use for all bugzilla things. 16:52:22 nirik: The last time I checked it was the issue with debug backend there is still no mail? 16:52:41 there's no email. I enabled * in my rules and I get no emails. 16:52:56 I see it getting messages, it just never sends me anything. I have no idea why. 16:53:43 I will check it tomorrow 16:53:46 at this point I am kinda tempting to try turning on the prod one and see what happens. :) 16:53:53 but I guess we should figure it out. 16:54:00 Maybe I will be able to find something in logs 16:54:08 I really really really really want to take fas2 / old openshift 3 cluster down. 16:54:38 ok. Thanks. 16:55:03 right now I should be the only one in staging enabled... but you can login and enable/verify an email yourself 16:55:33 so that was for today the last one lets go to the next 16:55:42 #topic Upcoming learning topics 16:55:42 #info TBD - zabbix [nirik] 16:55:42 #info TBD - BTRFS 2 [eddiejennings] 16:55:55 here we should find some dates ? 16:56:08 nirik: I know, I already did that few times 16:56:09 I hope to get more time to poke zabbix after freeze... but I don't want to set a date yet 16:56:28 Not ready yet :( Too much on the list at home lab, but chipping away at it :) 16:56:40 ok 16:56:45 we could look for some new topics? anyone have anything they would like to learn about? 16:57:42 Does Fedora use JWTs at all? Just curious been learning about them recently. 16:59:01 i dont know 16:59:08 not that I can think of.. 16:59:25 got it 16:59:50 ok the time is running let us do 1 minute open floor 16:59:55 #topic Open Floor 17:00:12 anything ? 17:00:16 good discussions today everyone. :) 17:00:29 I've been wanting to learn more about prometheus, not sure if that's relevant 17:00:58 we do have that built into our openshift clusters I think. 17:01:04 We have it in our openshift, not sure how much projects are actually using it 17:01:37 hmm. I've started deploying it in my homelab. Trying to figure it out gradually 17:01:42 Many thanks for joining the meeting and have a nice day and rest of week 17:01:51 #endmeeting