16:01:23 <phsmoura> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2022-09-22)
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16:01:23 <phsmoura> #meetingname infrastructure
16:01:23 <phsmoura> #chair nirik mobrien zlopez bodanel dtometzki jnsamyak computerkid
16:01:23 <phsmoura> #info Agenda is at: https://board.net/p/fedora-infra
16:01:23 <phsmoura> #info About our team: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/
16:01:23 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure'
16:01:23 <zodbot> Current chairs: bodanel computerkid dtometzki jnsamyak mobrien nirik phsmoura zlopez
16:01:24 <phsmoura> #info Fedora Infra documentation: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra
16:01:26 <phsmoura> #topic greetings!
16:01:33 <phsmoura> .hi
16:01:34 <zodbot> phsmoura: phsmoura 'Pedro Moura' <pmoura@redhat.com>
16:01:35 <nirik> ahoy
16:01:43 <erolkskn> hi there
16:02:00 <eddiejenningsjr> .hi
16:02:01 <zodbot> eddiejenningsjr: Sorry, but user 'eddiejenningsjr' does not exist
16:02:16 <eddiejenningsjr> .hello eddiejennings
16:02:17 <zodbot> eddiejenningsjr: eddiejennings 'Eddie Jennings' <eddie@eddiejennings.net>
16:03:10 <eddiejenningsjr> I still believe "one day" I can be useful to the project :D
16:03:34 <erolkskn> Is this ".hi" a command ?
16:03:39 <erolkskn> .hi
16:03:41 <zodbot> erolkskn: Sorry, but user 'erolkskn' does not exist
16:03:45 <nirik> erolkskn: it's a alias in the bot...
16:03:46 <erolkskn> .hi erolkeskin
16:03:47 <zodbot> erolkskn: Sorry, but user 'erolkskn' does not exist
16:03:49 <nirik> zodbot: misc help hi
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16:03:56 <nirik> zodbot: misc help hello2
16:03:57 <zodbot> nirik: (hello2 <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "hellomynameis $nick".
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16:04:15 <Southern_Gentlem> .hi jbwillia
16:04:16 <zodbot> Southern_Gentlem: Sorry, but user 'Southern_Gentlem' does not exist
16:04:19 <erolkskn> hellomynameis erolkeskin
16:04:27 <Southern_Gentlem> .hello jbwillia
16:04:27 <zodbot> Southern_Gentlem: jbwillia 'Ben Williams' <vaioof@gmail.com>
16:04:28 <erolkskn> .hellomynameis erolkeskin
16:04:32 <mkonecny> .hello zlopez
16:04:33 <zodbot> erolkskn: erolkeskin 'Erol Keskin' <erolkeskin.dev@gmail.com>
16:04:36 <zodbot> mkonecny: zlopez 'Michal Konecny' <michal.konecny@psmail.xyz>
16:04:47 <erolkskn> nirik: thank you for that
16:05:28 * austinpowered tries to sneak in quietly
16:05:54 <austinpowered> .hi
16:05:55 <zodbot> austinpowered: austinpowered 'T.C. Williams' <fedoraproject@wootenwilliams.com>
16:06:46 <lenkaseg> .hi
16:06:47 <zodbot> lenkaseg: lenkaseg 'Lenka Segura' <lenka@sepu.cz>
16:08:09 <phsmoura> lot of people here today
16:08:20 <phsmoura> #topic New folks introductions
16:08:21 <phsmoura> #info This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora Infrastructure can introduce themselves
16:08:21 <phsmoura> #info Getting Started Guide: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/GettingStarted
16:08:26 <phsmoura> anyone new?
16:08:44 <erolkskn> Yeah, i am :) I made an introduction about myself in infrastructure mailing list
16:09:04 <phsmoura> welcome erolkskn! :)
16:09:18 <eddiejenningsjr> Welcome :D
16:09:19 <erolkskn> Thank you!
16:09:22 <nirik> welcome
16:09:27 <petebuffon> welcome
16:10:01 <erolkskn> Thank you to all :)
16:10:26 <phsmoura> lets start then
16:10:35 <phsmoura> #topic Next chair
16:10:35 <phsmoura> #info magic eight ball says:
16:10:35 <phsmoura> #info chair 2022-09-22 - phsmoura
16:10:35 <phsmoura> #info chair 2022-09-29 - eddiejenningsjr
16:10:35 <phsmoura> #info chair 2022-10-06 - ???
16:10:49 <eddiejenningsjr> .oncalltakeus
16:10:49 <zodbot> eddiejenningsjr: Kneel before zod!
16:10:58 <phsmoura> anyone wants the chair 2022-10-06?
16:11:39 <phsmoura> so you have interest in oncall or chair eddiejenningsjr?
16:11:55 <petebuffon> I thought I had volunteered for the sixth
16:11:58 <eddiejenningsjr> I jumped the gun.  I'm chair next week
16:12:14 <eddiejenningsjr> But I'm on-call for this week :)
16:12:44 <phsmoura> petebuffon: it wasnt on the board but Im adding you then
16:12:49 <petebuffon> thanks
16:13:56 <phsmoura> anyone wants the chair on 2022-10-13?
16:14:01 <lenkaseg> I can chair sometime too :)
16:14:05 <phsmoura> eddiejenningsjr: np
16:14:26 <erolkskn> So i was wondering that how can i be more useful for the infra team. Am i in the right place to ask that ?
16:14:26 <phsmoura> adding you lenkaseg
16:15:27 <phsmoura> erolkskn: sure you are
16:15:29 <nirik> erolkskn: sure... depends on what you want to do/like to do/etc...
16:16:21 <phsmoura> the next topic there are some useful links where you can get started and we will review some tickets too you can start to look around
16:16:50 <phsmoura> to finish the chair topic
16:16:59 <phsmoura> #info magic eight ball says:
16:16:59 <phsmoura> #info chair 2022-09-29 - eddiejenningsjr
16:16:59 <phsmoura> #info chair 2022-10-06 - petebuffon
16:16:59 <phsmoura> #info chair 2022-10-13 - lenkaseg
16:17:21 <phsmoura> the chairs for next weeks. is that correct?
16:18:51 <eddiejenningsjr> +1
16:19:18 <phsmoura> moving on then
16:19:20 <phsmoura> #topic announcements and information
16:19:20 <phsmoura> #info CPE Infra&Releng EU-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1030 Europe/paris in #centos-meeting
16:19:20 <phsmoura> #info CPE Infra&Releng NA-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1800 UTC in #fedora-meeting-3
16:19:20 <phsmoura> #info If your team wants support from the Fedora Program Management Team, file an isssue: https://pagure.io/fedora-pgm/pgm_team/issues?template=support_request
16:19:22 <phsmoura> #info please help us with improving contribution to fedora infra https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/improving-contribution-to-fedora-infrastructure/38294/8
16:19:25 <phsmoura> #info oncall should also handling #fedora-releng pings if possible
16:20:10 <mkonecny> #info Hacktoberfest starting soon https://hacktoberfest.com/
16:20:30 <mkonecny> Few of infra apps will be part of it
16:21:21 <nirik> cool
16:21:50 <nirik> #info nirk on PTO 2022-10-06 to 2022-10-09 and 2022-10-15 to 2022-10-23
16:22:01 <erolkskn> nirik: Great! I do love developing stuff. Even if it's for creating a skeleton of a project, or just creating a framework for others project to use or maintaining deployment scripts for a project, it doesn't matter. If there is something which needs help, i can be there for it.
16:22:26 <eddiejenningsjr> ^-- well earned :)
16:24:25 <phsmoura> erolkskn: to know more about the infra and how to get started this wiki may help you https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/GettingStarted
16:24:25 <nirik> erolkskn: are you more interested in development? or sysadmin/scripting work? or both?
16:24:37 <erolkskn> nirik: both
16:25:07 <erolkskn> phsmoura: actually, i've been contributing to some of projects in infra like anitya, fedora-messaging, noggin etc.
16:25:39 <phsmoura> cool
16:26:11 <nirik> working on apps is great... we have way more apps than we can handle.
16:27:02 <mkonecny> erolkskn: Thanks for the PRs for Anitya :-)
16:27:17 <erolkskn> mkonecny: Your welcome :-)
16:27:57 <erolkskn> so i was wondering that is there any development board/schedule that i can be part of/join ?
16:28:13 <erolkskn> i could take issue on, and get to know about the development schedule more
16:28:39 <mkonecny> I don't think we have any
16:29:06 <mkonecny> We have plenty of apps with trackers, but I don't think we have any development boards
16:29:23 <nirik> yeah, nothing overall... important things tend to be filed in the infra tickets
16:30:07 <nirik> erolkskn: one big thing if you are interested... we are looking for a new maintainer for badges...
16:30:10 <mkonecny> Yeah, just look for dev tag in fedora-infra tracker https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues
16:30:34 <erolkskn> nirik: yeah most definitely i'm interested !
16:31:37 <nirik> https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-badges-long-term-maintenance-discussion/41109 has more info on that
16:31:54 <phsmoura> Is there any other Announcements or anything else to discuss before oncall?
16:32:58 <erolkskn> nirik: i'm going to take a look at as soon as possible, thank you :)
16:33:36 <nirik> erolkskn: awesome. :) There's lots of other smaller stuff too... no lack of things to work on. ;)
16:33:40 <nirik> phsmoura: nothing here.
16:34:06 <phsmoura> #topic Oncall
16:34:07 <phsmoura> #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Oncall
16:34:07 <phsmoura> #info https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/day_to_day_fedora/
16:34:07 <phsmoura> ## .oncalltakeeu .oncalltakeus
16:34:22 <phsmoura> #info mobrien is on call from 2022-09-09 to 2022-09-15
16:34:23 <phsmoura> #info dtometzski is on call from 2022-09-16 to 2022-09-22
16:34:23 <phsmoura> #info eddiejenningsjr is on call from 2022-09-23 to 2022-09-29
16:34:23 <phsmoura> #info ??? is on call from 2022-09-30 to 2022-10-06
16:34:38 <phsmoura> anyone wants the oncall from 2022-09-30 to 2022-10-06?
16:36:07 <phsmoura> well..we are good for the next 2 weeks
16:36:16 <phsmoura> #info Summary of last week: (from current oncall )
16:36:42 <phsmoura> mobrien: are you around to talk about the oncall last week?
16:36:51 <eddiejenningsjr> This week at least :D
16:36:54 <nirik> he's not. ;) he's off on paternity leave.
16:37:13 <phsmoura> ah true
16:37:15 <mkonecny> dtometzkiwas oncall for this week
16:38:00 <nirik> oh yeah, that mobrien line was old. ;)
16:39:28 <nirik> anyhow, I think it was pretty quiet.
16:40:04 <phsmoura> ok, lets move on
16:40:13 <phsmoura> #topic Monitoring discussion [nirik]
16:40:13 <phsmoura> #info https://nagios.fedoraproject.org/nagios
16:40:13 <phsmoura> #info Go over existing out items and fix
16:40:40 <phsmoura> anything about monitoring nirik?
16:41:03 <nirik> so, I think we are pretty much similar to last week...
16:41:09 <nirik> I did clean up a few small items.
16:41:54 <nirik> but nothing exciting to report really... lets move on
16:42:05 <phsmoura> ok
16:42:21 <phsmoura> #topic Revisit blocked tickets
16:42:21 <phsmoura> #info Check if any blocked ticket is unblocked
16:42:21 <phsmoura> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues?status=Open&tags=blocked&priority=0&close_status=
16:42:32 <phsmoura> any updates on blocked tickets?
16:42:58 * nirik looks
16:43:16 <nirik> nope
16:43:32 <nirik> all blocked still.
16:44:03 <phsmoura> #topic Fedora Infra backlog refinement
16:44:03 <phsmoura> #info Refine oldest tickets on Fedora Infra tracker
16:44:03 <phsmoura> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues?status=Open&order_key=last_updated&order=asc
16:44:14 <phsmoura> what about old tickets?
16:44:29 <nirik> well, we had a learning topic today... ;)
16:45:05 <phsmoura> its yours right nirik, should we skip to it?
16:45:35 <nirik> sure.
16:45:55 <phsmoura> all yours :)
16:45:59 <phsmoura> #topic Upcoming learning topics
16:45:59 <phsmoura> #info 2022-09-22 IPA/Fedora Accounts System [nirik]
16:46:24 <nirik> #topic IPA/Fedora Accounts System
16:46:43 <nirik> So, mostly this is going to just be off the cuff... happy to answer questions or go into more details.
16:48:07 <nirik> We are using IPA now... That stands for Identity, policy and authentication I think
16:48:33 <nirik> https://freeipa.org is the upstream open source project... the Red Hat Product version is just called ipa
16:49:02 <nirik> ipa is a bundle of things. It has a directory server, certificate managment, and a bunch more things.
16:49:16 <nirik> Basically it keeps all our users account data on it.
16:49:37 <mkonecny> Identity, Policy, and Audit (IPA)
16:49:38 <nirik> we have 3 ipa servers in cluster. They replicate to each other and any one of them could take over for the others.
16:50:02 <nirik> ah, ok, I thought it was authenication. :)
16:50:17 <mkonecny> I looked up on the wiki :-)
16:50:45 <eddiejenningsjr> Sounds similar to AD + AD Certificate Services in the Windows world.
16:50:45 <nirik> on top of the ipa cluster we have noggin, our account system. This provides a self service/nicer/simplified way to update account information and make new accounts, etc.
16:51:09 <nirik> but it talks to IPA and all the data is actually stored there, noggin is just a frontend/interface.
16:52:07 <erolkskn> nirik: how frequent is the review process on noggin, do you have any idea ?
16:52:09 <nirik> also talking to IPA we have ipsilon. ipsilon is a identiy provider. So, when you login to a webapp, likely you are talking to ipsilon (which in turn talks to ipa)
16:52:25 <erolkskn> nirik: i have an open issue for about month to now. https://github.com/fedora-infra/noggin/pull/1015
16:52:27 <nirik> erolkskn: you mean for reviewing PR's? or?
16:52:30 <erolkskn> *pull request
16:52:38 <erolkskn> nirik: reviewing pr's
16:52:47 <nirik> yeah, it's... when someone gets to it. There's no schedule. :(
16:52:57 <erolkskn> i see
16:53:23 <nirik> we have been trying some things to improve that, but nothing has really helped yet
16:54:09 <nirik> also talking to IPA we have sssd on all our machines/vm's... this allows users in groups with access to login to those machines via ssh.
16:55:00 <nirik> IPA also provides kerberos for our users that some apps use to authenticate people. (koji being one)
16:55:22 * nirik sees we are running low on time.
16:56:02 <nirik> There's another app that also talks to ipa...
16:56:11 <nirik> fasjson. It allows looking up account data.
16:56:36 <nirik> noggin and fasjson are running in openshift projects.
16:56:45 <erolkskn> I know i asked about a lot of questions, and you guys answered to all of them thank you for that :) The last question in my mind is how can i join fi-apprentice group, in order to understand better about the fedora-infrastructure ?
16:56:49 <nirik> ipsilon (due to a weird requirement) is running in vm's
16:57:16 <nirik> erolkskn: ask to be added in #fedora-admin after the meeting and we can get you added. ;)
16:57:23 <nirik> asking questions is great!
16:57:48 <nirik> shall we do a quick open floor now?
16:58:02 <erolkskn> nirik: thank you for that, pardon me if all those questions were in inconvenient times
16:58:34 <phsmoura> #topic Open Floor
16:58:42 <nirik> not at all.
16:59:19 <phsmoura> thanks nirik for the learning topic
16:59:38 <phsmoura> anyone have anything to share in open floor?
17:00:19 <nirik> erolkskn: might try dropping abompard an email on that PR... he might have missed it.
17:00:46 <mkonecny> Thanks for running the meeting phsmoura
17:00:50 <erolkskn_> nirik: yeah, i should probably try it
17:02:09 <phsmoura> thank you all for your time :)
17:02:17 <phsmoura> #endmeeting