16:01:31 #startmeeting Infrastructure (2023-03-09) 16:01:31 Meeting started Thu Mar 9 16:01:31 2023 UTC. 16:01:31 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 16:01:31 The chair is Penguinpee. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 16:01:31 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 16:01:31 The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure_(2023-03-09)' 16:01:39 .hi 16:01:40 aheath1992: aheath1992 'Andrew Heath' 16:01:48 #meetingname infrastructure 16:01:48 The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure' 16:01:57 #chair nirik zlopez nb bodanel dtometzki jnsamyak 16:01:57 Current chairs: Penguinpee bodanel dtometzki jnsamyak nb nirik zlopez 16:02:08 #info Agenda is at: https://board.net/p/fedora-infra 16:02:27 .hello zlopez 16:02:28 mkonecny: zlopez 'Michal Konecny' 16:02:30 #info About our team: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/ 16:02:41 #info Fedora Infra documentation: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra 16:02:50 #topic greetings! 16:02:52 .hi 16:02:54 phsmoura: phsmoura 'Pedro Moura' 16:03:17 Hello everyone! 16:03:35 * Penguinpee looks outside and is glad to be inside ;) 16:04:30 I guess we wait a bit for people to show up? 16:04:36 morning 16:04:44 .hello eddiejennings 16:04:44 Hello sir! 16:04:45 eddiejenningsjr: eddiejennings 'Eddie Jennings' 16:05:15 #topic New folks introductions 16:05:20 #info This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora Infrastructure can introduce themselves 16:05:28 #info Getting Started Guide: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/GettingStarted 16:05:45 Do we have any new people among us? Please say hello. 16:07:01 .hi 16:07:02 darknao: darknao 'Francois Andrieu' 16:07:29 I guess we have no new arrivals this week. Moving on... 16:07:32 #topic Next chair 16:07:44 #info magic eight ball says: 16:07:54 #info chair 2023-03-16 - aheath1992 16:07:55 #info chair 2023-03-23 - Canceled due to F2F CPE meeting 16:07:55 #info chair 2023-03-30 - nirik 16:08:12 Any volunteers for April 6th? 16:08:30 I can take it 16:08:41 Sold to mkonecny! 16:09:04 #info chair 2023-04-06 - mkonecny 16:09:42 I guess we are good for the coming weeks. Unless someone really wants the 13th (no a Friday). ;) 16:10:46 Moving right along... 16:10:49 #topic announcements and information 16:10:49 #info CPE Infra&Releng EU-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1030 Europe/paris in #centos-meeting 16:10:49 #info CPE Infra&Releng NA-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1800 UTC in #fedora-meeting-3 16:10:49 #info If your team wants support from the Fedora Program Management Team, file an isssue: https://pagure.io/fedora-pgm/pgm_team/issues?template=support_request 16:10:51 #info oncall should also handling #fedora-releng pings if possible 16:10:53 #info Fedora 38 beta freeze in effect 16:11:35 #info Penguinpee will miss next week's meeting due to work 16:12:00 Any more announcements? 16:12:07 Sorry, I was pulled onto another call. 16:12:14 I can do April 6th chair. 16:12:31 eddiejenningsjr: That's been sold. ;) 16:12:37 #info Fedora 38 Beta RC 1.3 available for testing 16:12:37 #info nirik is out on PTO tomorrow and monday. :) (But of course I will still be around some) 16:13:06 Make way for nirik-away... 16:13:18 ah ok. :) 16:13:33 eddiejenningsjr: I can put you down for the 13th. 16:13:41 13th is good 16:14:14 #info chair 2023-04-13 - eddijenningsjr 16:14:23 #info chair 2023-04-13 - eddiejenningsjr 16:14:57 #topic Oncall 16:14:57 #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Oncall 16:14:57 #info https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/day_to_day_fedora/ 16:14:57 ## .oncalltakeeu .oncalltakeus 16:14:57 #info eddiejennings is on call from 2023-03-02 to 2023-03-09 16:14:58 #info darknao is on call from 2023-03-10 to 2023-03-16 16:15:37 On call volunteers for week 14/15? 16:16:40 That's wrong. Week 12 (2023-03-17) and week 13 (2023-03-24) 16:17:40 I'm gonna be traveling week 12/13. We may want to just put up a 'please file a ticket' oncall. 16:18:10 I can take the 2023-03-17 week. 16:18:22 Sold to eddiejenningsjr. Thank you! 16:18:41 #info eddiejenningsjr is on call from 2023-03-17 to 2023-03-23 16:19:05 Anyone for week 13? If not I'll leave it open. 16:19:16 .oncalltakeeu 16:19:16 darknao: Kneel before zod! 16:19:20 Since I haven't had time to actually deal with tickets in a while, it's the least I can do :) 16:19:44 #info Summary of last week: (from current oncall eddiejenningsjr) 16:19:49 eddiejenningsjr: take it away 16:20:46 Thankfully this week was quiet. If there was a ping it wasn't made to oncall or me 16:21:15 Nice and quite. Our favorite flavor. 16:21:22 #topic Monitoring discussion [nirik] 16:21:22 #info https://nagios.fedoraproject.org/nagios 16:21:22 #info Go over existing out items and fix 16:22:10 nirik: What's burning at the moment? 16:22:34 oh lets see... 16:23:00 The usual things... 16:23:03 and 3 new boxes I haven't yet installed are (not surprisingly) down. ;) 16:23:23 also there's some copr machines that aren't allowing monitoring. we should ask them to fix that. 16:23:40 nirik: We already have them in nagios? 16:23:43 otherwise the usual down machines needing reboots, etc. 16:24:09 yeah, I added them to dhcp and inventory and that adds them automagically to nagios. 16:24:13 That's nice 16:24:47 Regarding Copr machines: Do we have a ticket for that already? 16:25:23 no. I haven't had a chance. I was just going to talk to copr developers... 16:25:41 I have a question about the bvmhost socket timeout, where are you checking what is happening? 16:25:44 it's likely that aws needs to allow nagios into those, but might be firewall on the local instances or something 16:26:12 All right. As long as Copr people are aware and know what to check. 16:26:37 The ones this morning? so thats basically saying the machine is down... so I usually try and ping/ssh to it to make sure... 16:26:55 then, I look up machinename.mgmt ip. Thats the ip for the management interface for that machine. 16:27:10 Then, I use ipmitool or login to the web console to look at whats on the console. 16:27:33 It seems we do not have any learning topics for future meetings. Suggestions are welcome. Maybe this week we do some backlog refinement instead? 16:27:49 With the old a64 machines they just sometimes throw some oops and aren't responsive. You can't login to console even 16:27:52 then, I use ipmitool to power cycle them (or web console) 16:28:16 and watch console as they boot... in case they get stuck and then they should be back up. ;) 16:28:39 Is there any guide I can follow? If I would like to check it by myself, ssh and ping was my first guess, but I didn't worked with ipmitool yet in Fedora 16:29:35 not sure. Note that this needs you to have mgmt admin passwords. 16:29:42 If we don't have something we should make something. ;) 16:30:24 I would be glad if I could assist with this 16:30:40 excellent. thanks. ;) 16:30:54 Anything else to discuss regarding Nagios? 16:31:20 I really hope to work on docs more. I added it as a goal for me this year... 16:31:49 mkonecny++ for the assistance offer 16:31:49 Penguinpee: Karma for zlopez changed to 2 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 16:32:23 #topic Revisit blocked tickets 16:32:23 #info Check if any blocked ticket is unblocked 16:32:23 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues?status=Open&tags=blocked&priority=0&close_status= 16:33:07 That looks good! Only four tickets blocked. 16:33:16 there's progress on mailman, but it's not really unblocked fully 16:33:48 otherwise nothing there off hand 16:33:54 Nice! Slow movement is also movement. Ask the slug! 16:34:13 FYI: The CentOS has the same issue with mailman 16:34:22 #topic Fedora Infra backlog refinement 16:34:22 #info Refine oldest tickets on Fedora Infra tracker 16:34:22 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues?status=Open&order_key=last_updated&order=asc 16:34:45 it's I think all in fedora now... but ideally we would want epel9. ;) 16:35:03 Do we just go through the backlog top down? 16:35:23 EPEL9 should be our target 16:35:52 .ticket 10372 16:35:52 Penguinpee: Yeah, just open the link and go them one by one 16:35:52 Penguinpee: Issue #10372: [proposal] Move Pagure (pagure.io and src.fp.o) to use OIDC for web login - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/10372 16:35:53 * nirik has to go feed cats soon, they are circling. ;) 16:36:35 this is still blocking on ipsilon supporting the scopes it needs 16:37:00 We should probably start looking into that 16:37:12 Okay. So it doesn't need a nudge? 16:38:33 I think abompard knows the most about ipsilon, but he's not had cycles to look at it I don't think. 16:38:57 Let's move on to the next ticket... 16:39:12 .ticket 7361 16:39:14 Penguinpee: Issue #7361: Signing infrastructure for aarch64 - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/7361 16:39:16 +1 16:40:25 So, there's a big of discussion around this... possibly moving secure boot signing over to sigul, then we wouldn't need any special hardware. Other than that, we don't have hardware for it currently. 16:41:09 So, it's blocked on missing hardware for the time being. Should this be added to the ticket? 16:41:38 I already commented with backlog refinement 16:41:46 perhaps. well, I guess we do have hardware, but it's not in the right place... 16:41:51 I saw it. Thanks mkonecny! 16:41:56 anyhow, it's not something we can do right now. 16:42:17 next? 16:42:31 .ticket 10485 16:42:32 Penguinpee: Issue #10485: IAD2: certificate renewal stopped on updates.coreos.fedoraproject.org - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/10485 16:43:10 thats closed? 16:43:15 This is already closed 16:43:29 Sorry! Typo! 16:43:46 .ticket 10458 16:43:47 Penguinpee: Issue #10458: Help me move my discourse bots to production? - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/10458 16:44:11 thats waiting on mattdm now... 16:44:16 This is waiting for mattdm now 16:44:30 however... 16:44:30 nirik: Quicker :-D 16:44:46 we now have a communishift. we could set him up a project there to help? or offer to... 16:45:22 We can, will this help with the request? 16:45:23 Oh, mattdm loves playing around with new stuff. Will you leave a comment? 16:45:29 That would be a place to run them short term and help configure them to move to staging. 16:46:54 added 16:47:14 nirik: you beat me to it. ;) 16:47:34 One more: 16:47:42 .ticket 10963 16:47:43 Penguinpee: Issue #10963: Close out unused mailing lists - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/10963 16:48:12 Do we want to set is blocked by mailman update? 16:48:28 mkonecny: You are reading my mind... 16:48:32 well, reading the additional comment, perhaps we should just close this? 16:48:42 or try and get more info? 16:49:06 We can, they are already closed 16:49:32 right, but I don't know if there's still an outstanding bug or if it got cleaned up. 16:49:43 closed/archived lists have posts set to 'reject' everything. 16:49:52 +1 for getting more info 16:49:58 but I don't see what lists it was in there. 16:50:20 It seems that the best course is to ask if this is still happening and wait for response 16:50:36 I dimly remember this incident... but I don't know if there was still a bug or what 16:50:43 or close and ask to reopen if it's still an issue? 16:51:03 That is more preferable 16:51:06 I like that approach as well, nirik. 16:51:40 Do you or shall I, nirik? 16:51:44 shall I? or one of you wants to? 16:51:54 Go ahead, nirik! 16:52:08 I will close it 16:52:14 #topic Upcoming learning topics 16:52:22 thanks zlopez 16:52:40 We don't have any learning topics listed for the coming weeks. Any suggestions or offers? 16:52:46 I have a suggestion for a learning topic... 16:52:55 * Penguinpee listening 16:53:16 learn how do contribute to our infra docs and we can fix one or more live. ;) 16:53:30 That would be a good one. 16:53:37 That sounds like fun. 16:53:57 +1 to that 16:53:58 nirik: Got a preferred date? 16:54:23 I'd be happy to run that, or someone like darknao might know more about the current docs flow 16:54:24 +1 16:54:52 30th? or in april? I'm traveling soon and don't want to do it then... 16:55:02 yeah I might be able to help on that topic if needed 16:55:10 30th sounds good to me 16:55:46 #info 2023-03-30 Learn how do contribute to our infra docs + live fixes [darknao, nirik] 16:56:07 We are approaching the top of the hour. 16:56:15 #topic Open Floor 16:57:12 More learning topic suggestions are welcome, of course. 16:57:38 Let it be known that the fact that dnf config supports installonly_limit= parameter makes it superior to apt 16:57:38 Does anybody have anything for open floor? 16:57:48 Had to let that out for open floor :) 16:58:16 Eddie Jennings, Jr.: I really liked that you can just blacklist something in dnf config, so it doesn't get updated 16:58:42 * Penguinpee hears the reant echoing through the hallway - all the way to the Debian office... ;) 16:58:50 *rant 16:58:52 Ha! 16:59:27 mkonecny: I made good use of it when Thunderbird was messing around with the UI again... 17:00:02 For whom the bell tolls... 17:00:04 #endmeeting