16:01:04 <lenkaseg> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2023-07-13)
16:01:04 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Jul 13 16:01:04 2023 UTC.
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16:01:35 <lenkaseg> #meetingname infrastructure
16:01:35 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure'
16:01:41 <lenkaseg> #chair nirik zlopez nb bodanel dtometzki jnsamyak lenkaseg
16:01:41 <zodbot> Current chairs: bodanel dtometzki jnsamyak lenkaseg nb nirik zlopez
16:01:49 <lenkaseg> #info Agenda is at: https://board.net/p/fedora-infra
16:01:56 <lenkaseg> #info About our team: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/
16:02:01 <nirik> morning
16:02:03 <lenkaseg> #info Fedora Infra documentation: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra
16:02:10 <lenkaseg> #topic greetings!
16:02:11 <mkonecny> .hello zlopez
16:02:12 <zodbot> mkonecny: zlopez 'Michal Konecny' <michal.konecny@pacse.eu>
16:02:18 <lenkaseg> hello everybody!
16:02:20 <lenkaseg> .hi
16:02:21 <zodbot> lenkaseg: lenkaseg 'Lenka Segura' <lenka@sepu.cz>
16:02:54 <lenkaseg> Welcome in our weekly infrastructure meeting!
16:03:06 <smooge> hello
16:03:29 <lenkaseg> smooge: o/
16:03:54 <lenkaseg> Hi nirik, hi zlopez!
16:04:03 <eddiejenningsjr> .hello eddiejennings
16:04:04 <zodbot> eddiejenningsjr: eddiejennings 'Eddie Jennings' <eddie@eddiejennings.net>
16:04:27 <lenkaseg> hi Eddie!
16:04:36 <lenkaseg> #topic New folks introductions
16:04:48 <lenkaseg> Any newcomers today?
16:04:56 <lenkaseg> Say hi!
16:05:13 <pcreech[m]> .hello pcreech17
16:05:14 <zodbot> pcreech[m]: pcreech17 'Patrick Creech' <pcreech@redhat.com>
16:05:15 <lenkaseg> #info This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora Infrastructure can introduce themselves
16:05:18 <pcreech[m]> Hi
16:05:25 <lenkaseg> hello pcreech ! Are you new here?
16:05:56 <pcreech[m]> New-ish
16:06:49 <pcreech[m]> Once upon a 2015 an aspiring infra apprentice then life happened
16:07:14 <lenkaseg> Good to see you again!
16:07:26 <smooge> welcome back pcreech[m]
16:07:30 <lenkaseg> #info Getting Started Guide: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/GettingStarted
16:07:50 <mkonecny> pcreech: Life always get in the way :-D
16:09:09 <eddiejenningsjr> Life still happening to me, but at least I can attend the weekly meeting :D
16:09:10 <nirik> welcome (back)!
16:09:49 <lenkaseg> let's determine who the next chair will be!
16:09:57 <lenkaseg> #topic Next chair
16:10:03 <lenkaseg> #info magic eight ball says:
16:10:11 <lenkaseg> #info chair 2023-07-13 - lenkaseg
16:10:16 <lenkaseg> #info chair 2023-07-20 - mkonecny
16:10:23 <lenkaseg> #info chair 2023-07-27 - ???
16:10:37 <lenkaseg> anyone for the July 27?
16:10:50 <eddiejenningsjr> I seem to remember taking 7/27.  It coincided with my next on-call week
16:11:09 <lenkaseg> sorry!
16:11:19 <lenkaseg> ok! It was not in the agenda
16:11:19 <dtometzki__> yes i know
16:11:29 <lenkaseg> #info chair 2023-07-27 - eddiejnnings
16:11:32 <dtometzki__> but no update from zodbot
16:11:51 <lenkaseg> now it's there
16:12:29 <eddiejenningsjr> :D
16:12:40 <lenkaseg> does somebody want to take the following week?
16:12:41 <lenkaseg> #info chair 2023-08-03 - ???
16:13:24 <nirik> That is the week of flock...
16:13:35 <nirik> so a number of folks will be out there. Perhaps we should cancel that week?
16:13:42 <lenkaseg> true, will we skip the meeting?
16:13:55 <lenkaseg> alright
16:14:28 <lenkaseg> let's go to announcements
16:14:36 <lenkaseg> #topic announcements and information
16:14:42 <lenkaseg> #info CPE Infra&Releng EU-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 0730 UTC in #centos-meeting
16:14:48 <lenkaseg> #info CPE Infra&Releng NA-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1800 UTC in #fedora-meeting-3
16:15:12 <lenkaseg> #info flock to fedora coming up in early aug (2nd-4th in cork, ie) https://flocktofedora.org
16:15:27 <nirik> #info batcave01 moving to rhel9 later today hopefully, there will be a short outage of it.
16:15:48 <lenkaseg> #info next infrastructure weekly meeting cancelled due to flock
16:16:42 <lenkaseg> eh, sorry, not next obviously...
16:17:50 <nirik> yeah, first meeting in aug. We knew what you meant
16:18:16 <lenkaseg> let's move on...
16:18:19 <lenkaseg> #topic Oncall
16:18:28 <lenkaseg> #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Oncall
16:18:33 <lenkaseg> #info https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/day_to_day_fedora/
16:18:42 <lenkaseg> ## .oncalltakeeu .oncalltakeus
16:19:12 <lenkaseg> #info eddiejenningsjr is on call from 2023-07-07 to 2023-07-13
16:19:13 <lenkaseg> #info dtometzki is on call from 2023-07-14 to 2023-07-20
16:19:21 <lenkaseg> #info Summary of last week: (from current oncall )
16:19:32 <lenkaseg> giving word to eddiejenningsjr
16:20:07 <eddiejenningsjr> I was summoned twice.  Once a few days ago for an issue that I cannot recall, but nirik fixed :).  Once today with a question about Koji and chroot that was answered.
16:20:52 <dtometzki__> I took over
16:20:57 <lenkaseg> Thanks Eddie Jennings, Jr. !
16:22:41 <lenkaseg> do we have volunteers for call from 2023-07-21 to 2023-07-28?
16:22:55 <eddiejenningsjr> Me.  :)
16:22:57 <lenkaseg> s/call/oncall
16:23:06 <eddiejenningsjr> I like ending on-call with a meeting chair date.
16:23:06 <lenkaseg> Eddie Jennings, Jr.: granted!
16:23:37 <lenkaseg> #info eddiejenningsjr is on call from 2023-07-21 to 2023-07-28?
16:24:00 <lenkaseg> without the question mark...
16:24:31 <lenkaseg> #topic Monitoring discussion [nirik]
16:24:44 <lenkaseg> #info https://nagios.fedoraproject.org/nagios
16:24:44 <nirik> lets see...
16:25:28 <nirik> pretty much as it was last week. I tweaked the old notifications stuff to hopefully alert less often.
16:25:45 <nirik> I think we still need to fix the fedmsg monitoring stuff.
16:25:53 <nirik> Otherwise pretty normal.
16:26:09 <lenkaseg> Thanks nirik !
16:26:43 <lenkaseg> let's do some backlog refinement!
16:26:53 <lenkaseg> #topic Revisit blocked tickets
16:27:02 <lenkaseg> #info Check if any blocked ticket is unblocked
16:27:08 <lenkaseg> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues?status=Open&tags=blocked&priority=0&close_status=
16:28:10 <lenkaseg> 6 blocked issues... any news on any of them?
16:28:24 <mkonecny> .ticket 11245
16:28:25 <zodbot> mkonecny: Issue #11245: DANE TLSA record for fedoraproject.org seems outdated - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11245
16:28:31 <mkonecny> Is this still blocked?
16:28:42 <nirik> I thought ryan closed it?
16:28:52 <mkonecny> Me too
16:29:23 <nirik> oh, he closed the pr but kept the issue.
16:29:36 <nirik> How about another tack here...
16:30:16 <nirik> we update the renew cert doc to include updating the DANE records...
16:30:16 <nirik> (if we have such a doc...)
16:30:38 <mkonecny> We don't have any doc like that?
16:30:46 <nirik> Or we could leave it until we have zabbix. Or we could close it and hope we remember it
16:31:02 <nirik> well, there's a doc in ansible-private about certs... but yeah.
16:31:18 <smooge> i don't remember a doc and I know I did it wrong the last time and I think nb had to fix my attempt
16:31:32 <smooge> or is that DKIM
16:31:53 <smooge> I have broken so many things
16:32:03 <nirik> note that this is the main fedoraproject.org cert we get from digicert. I think only I can do that currently (well, and smooge...)
16:32:16 <nirik> and it only happens once a year
16:32:32 <smooge> that needs to change on my part. what is needed there?
16:32:49 <nirik> I can add people/remove you (I think, will have to check)
16:33:05 <smooge> probably a good idea.
16:33:33 <smooge> i suggest the first person who writes a document on how to update things properly
16:34:32 <mkonecny> It would be nice to document that :-)
16:34:53 <nirik> I've added it to my list. Shall we keep the ticket to track this?
16:35:03 <mkonecny> +1
16:35:24 <mkonecny> We should probably remove the blocked label
16:35:46 <nirik> +1
16:36:34 <lenkaseg> any unblocking news on the other blocked tickets?
16:36:58 <nirik> nope. nothing new
16:37:06 <mkonecny> .ticket 10372
16:37:07 <zodbot> mkonecny: Issue #10372: [proposal] Move Pagure (pagure.io and src.fp.o) to use OIDC for web login - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/10372
16:37:15 <mkonecny> I'm currently trying to work on that
16:37:33 <mkonecny> I will see how it will work with tiny-stage
16:38:08 <mkonecny> It seems that most of the things are already prepared, so let me remove the blocked label and I can add it later when I hit any brick wall
16:39:01 <lenkaseg> +1
16:39:25 <nirik> I think ryan was getting tinystage working with pagure tests again for the spam stuff
16:39:58 <mkonecny> Yeah, I knew
16:41:31 <lenkaseg> let's move on to last visited tickets?
16:42:18 <lenkaseg> I take the silence as yes :D
16:42:19 <lenkaseg> #topic Fedora Infra backlog refinement
16:42:28 <lenkaseg> #info Refine oldest tickets on Fedora Infra tracker
16:42:34 <lenkaseg> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues?status=Open&order_key=last_updated&order=asc
16:43:23 <lenkaseg> .ticket 10458
16:43:24 <zodbot> lenkaseg: Issue #10458: Help me move my discourse bots to production? - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/10458
16:43:59 <lenkaseg> (not sure which tickets were discussed recently)
16:44:05 <mkonecny> This is still waiting on mattdm
16:44:28 <lenkaseg> .ticket 11292
16:44:29 <zodbot> lenkaseg: Issue #11292: Allow non packagers to push to distgit forks via ssh - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11292
16:45:44 <lenkaseg> do we put a comment on the tickets that get discussed on the meeting here, so they don't appear as oldest touched next time? Or we have to remember? How does it work?
16:45:45 <nirik> I guess this needs more investigation... or us just saying 'not right now, we will keep it in mind moving forward' or ?
16:46:03 <smooge> I would go for the second option
16:46:12 <smooge> sets expectations better
16:46:24 <mkonecny> lenkaseg: I updating the tickets as we discuss them
16:46:52 <lenkaseg> Zlopez: oh, ok!
16:47:00 <smooge> zlopez++
16:47:01 <nirik> as a side note: https pushing is broken for me, but I assume it's just me since no one else has complained.
16:47:26 <smooge> i don't think i have done https pushing
16:47:40 <mkonecny> I'm not sure how many people are pushing to forks on dist-git
16:47:41 <nirik> so I am fine closing it, or if we want to try and do it we should investigate it more (perhaps it's an iniative)
16:47:58 <nirik> a fair number I think these days
16:49:12 <mkonecny> We can close it as intiative or upstream ticket for dist-git
16:51:02 <mkonecny> I'm not sure if it's more about deployment or how the dist-git works
16:51:21 <nirik> it's deployment. It's how we setup pagure for dist-git
16:51:58 <nirik> and really it's a hold over from the older pre pagure system
16:52:24 <mkonecny> Let's close it then and ask the reporter to open it as initiative
16:52:41 <mkonecny> Because it obviously isn't an easy task and needs more investigation
16:53:06 <nirik> yeah, it could/should also be fixed more if we move to something else.
16:53:45 <mkonecny> Ok, let me respond to ticket and close it
16:54:18 <lenkaseg> last minutes remaining, let's move on to...
16:54:19 <lenkaseg> #topic Open Floor
16:55:07 <eddiejenningsjr> Come one, come all for next week's meeting!  Learning topic:  Considerations and tips regarding PyPI vs Distribution Repo installs of Ansible :)
16:55:40 <lenkaseg> Eddie Jennings, Jr.: ++
16:56:48 <mkonecny> We now have an ads for next meeting :-D
16:57:22 <lenkaseg> how comes it was not advertised in the board!?
16:57:49 <mkonecny> I don't know
16:58:08 <lenkaseg> now it is :)
16:59:41 <lenkaseg> meeting is over, thanks all for attending and see you next week!
16:59:43 <lenkaseg> #endmeeting