16:01:04 #startmeeting Infrastructure (2023-07-13) 16:01:04 Meeting started Thu Jul 13 16:01:04 2023 UTC. 16:01:04 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 16:01:04 The chair is lenkaseg. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 16:01:04 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 16:01:04 The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure_(2023-07-13)' 16:01:35 #meetingname infrastructure 16:01:35 The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure' 16:01:41 #chair nirik zlopez nb bodanel dtometzki jnsamyak lenkaseg 16:01:41 Current chairs: bodanel dtometzki jnsamyak lenkaseg nb nirik zlopez 16:01:49 #info Agenda is at: https://board.net/p/fedora-infra 16:01:56 #info About our team: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/ 16:02:01 morning 16:02:03 #info Fedora Infra documentation: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra 16:02:10 #topic greetings! 16:02:11 .hello zlopez 16:02:12 mkonecny: zlopez 'Michal Konecny' 16:02:18 hello everybody! 16:02:20 .hi 16:02:21 lenkaseg: lenkaseg 'Lenka Segura' 16:02:54 Welcome in our weekly infrastructure meeting! 16:03:06 hello 16:03:29 smooge: o/ 16:03:54 Hi nirik, hi zlopez! 16:04:03 .hello eddiejennings 16:04:04 eddiejenningsjr: eddiejennings 'Eddie Jennings' 16:04:27 hi Eddie! 16:04:36 #topic New folks introductions 16:04:48 Any newcomers today? 16:04:56 Say hi! 16:05:13 .hello pcreech17 16:05:14 pcreech[m]: pcreech17 'Patrick Creech' 16:05:15 #info This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora Infrastructure can introduce themselves 16:05:18 Hi 16:05:25 hello pcreech ! Are you new here? 16:05:56 New-ish 16:06:49 Once upon a 2015 an aspiring infra apprentice then life happened 16:07:14 Good to see you again! 16:07:26 welcome back pcreech[m] 16:07:30 #info Getting Started Guide: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/GettingStarted 16:07:50 pcreech: Life always get in the way :-D 16:09:09 Life still happening to me, but at least I can attend the weekly meeting :D 16:09:10 welcome (back)! 16:09:49 let's determine who the next chair will be! 16:09:57 #topic Next chair 16:10:03 #info magic eight ball says: 16:10:11 #info chair 2023-07-13 - lenkaseg 16:10:16 #info chair 2023-07-20 - mkonecny 16:10:23 #info chair 2023-07-27 - ??? 16:10:37 anyone for the July 27? 16:10:50 I seem to remember taking 7/27. It coincided with my next on-call week 16:11:09 sorry! 16:11:19 ok! It was not in the agenda 16:11:19 yes i know 16:11:29 #info chair 2023-07-27 - eddiejnnings 16:11:32 but no update from zodbot 16:11:51 now it's there 16:12:29 :D 16:12:40 does somebody want to take the following week? 16:12:41 #info chair 2023-08-03 - ??? 16:13:24 That is the week of flock... 16:13:35 so a number of folks will be out there. Perhaps we should cancel that week? 16:13:42 true, will we skip the meeting? 16:13:55 alright 16:14:28 let's go to announcements 16:14:36 #topic announcements and information 16:14:42 #info CPE Infra&Releng EU-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 0730 UTC in #centos-meeting 16:14:48 #info CPE Infra&Releng NA-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1800 UTC in #fedora-meeting-3 16:15:12 #info flock to fedora coming up in early aug (2nd-4th in cork, ie) https://flocktofedora.org 16:15:27 #info batcave01 moving to rhel9 later today hopefully, there will be a short outage of it. 16:15:48 #info next infrastructure weekly meeting cancelled due to flock 16:16:42 eh, sorry, not next obviously... 16:17:50 yeah, first meeting in aug. We knew what you meant 16:18:16 let's move on... 16:18:19 #topic Oncall 16:18:28 #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Oncall 16:18:33 #info https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/day_to_day_fedora/ 16:18:42 ## .oncalltakeeu .oncalltakeus 16:19:12 #info eddiejenningsjr is on call from 2023-07-07 to 2023-07-13 16:19:13 #info dtometzki is on call from 2023-07-14 to 2023-07-20 16:19:21 #info Summary of last week: (from current oncall ) 16:19:32 giving word to eddiejenningsjr 16:20:07 I was summoned twice. Once a few days ago for an issue that I cannot recall, but nirik fixed :). Once today with a question about Koji and chroot that was answered. 16:20:52 I took over 16:20:57 Thanks Eddie Jennings, Jr. ! 16:22:41 do we have volunteers for call from 2023-07-21 to 2023-07-28? 16:22:55 Me. :) 16:22:57 s/call/oncall 16:23:06 I like ending on-call with a meeting chair date. 16:23:06 Eddie Jennings, Jr.: granted! 16:23:37 #info eddiejenningsjr is on call from 2023-07-21 to 2023-07-28? 16:24:00 without the question mark... 16:24:31 #topic Monitoring discussion [nirik] 16:24:44 #info https://nagios.fedoraproject.org/nagios 16:24:44 lets see... 16:25:28 pretty much as it was last week. I tweaked the old notifications stuff to hopefully alert less often. 16:25:45 I think we still need to fix the fedmsg monitoring stuff. 16:25:53 Otherwise pretty normal. 16:26:09 Thanks nirik ! 16:26:43 let's do some backlog refinement! 16:26:53 #topic Revisit blocked tickets 16:27:02 #info Check if any blocked ticket is unblocked 16:27:08 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues?status=Open&tags=blocked&priority=0&close_status= 16:28:10 6 blocked issues... any news on any of them? 16:28:24 .ticket 11245 16:28:25 mkonecny: Issue #11245: DANE TLSA record for fedoraproject.org seems outdated - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11245 16:28:31 Is this still blocked? 16:28:42 I thought ryan closed it? 16:28:52 Me too 16:29:23 oh, he closed the pr but kept the issue. 16:29:36 How about another tack here... 16:30:16 we update the renew cert doc to include updating the DANE records... 16:30:16 (if we have such a doc...) 16:30:38 We don't have any doc like that? 16:30:46 Or we could leave it until we have zabbix. Or we could close it and hope we remember it 16:31:02 well, there's a doc in ansible-private about certs... but yeah. 16:31:18 i don't remember a doc and I know I did it wrong the last time and I think nb had to fix my attempt 16:31:32 or is that DKIM 16:31:53 I have broken so many things 16:32:03 note that this is the main fedoraproject.org cert we get from digicert. I think only I can do that currently (well, and smooge...) 16:32:16 and it only happens once a year 16:32:32 that needs to change on my part. what is needed there? 16:32:49 I can add people/remove you (I think, will have to check) 16:33:05 probably a good idea. 16:33:33 i suggest the first person who writes a document on how to update things properly 16:34:32 It would be nice to document that :-) 16:34:53 I've added it to my list. Shall we keep the ticket to track this? 16:35:03 +1 16:35:24 We should probably remove the blocked label 16:35:46 +1 16:36:34 any unblocking news on the other blocked tickets? 16:36:58 nope. nothing new 16:37:06 .ticket 10372 16:37:07 mkonecny: Issue #10372: [proposal] Move Pagure (pagure.io and src.fp.o) to use OIDC for web login - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/10372 16:37:15 I'm currently trying to work on that 16:37:33 I will see how it will work with tiny-stage 16:38:08 It seems that most of the things are already prepared, so let me remove the blocked label and I can add it later when I hit any brick wall 16:39:01 +1 16:39:25 I think ryan was getting tinystage working with pagure tests again for the spam stuff 16:39:58 Yeah, I knew 16:41:31 let's move on to last visited tickets? 16:42:18 I take the silence as yes :D 16:42:19 #topic Fedora Infra backlog refinement 16:42:28 #info Refine oldest tickets on Fedora Infra tracker 16:42:34 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues?status=Open&order_key=last_updated&order=asc 16:43:23 .ticket 10458 16:43:24 lenkaseg: Issue #10458: Help me move my discourse bots to production? - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/10458 16:43:59 (not sure which tickets were discussed recently) 16:44:05 This is still waiting on mattdm 16:44:28 .ticket 11292 16:44:29 lenkaseg: Issue #11292: Allow non packagers to push to distgit forks via ssh - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11292 16:45:44 do we put a comment on the tickets that get discussed on the meeting here, so they don't appear as oldest touched next time? Or we have to remember? How does it work? 16:45:45 I guess this needs more investigation... or us just saying 'not right now, we will keep it in mind moving forward' or ? 16:46:03 I would go for the second option 16:46:12 sets expectations better 16:46:24 lenkaseg: I updating the tickets as we discuss them 16:46:52 Zlopez: oh, ok! 16:47:00 zlopez++ 16:47:01 as a side note: https pushing is broken for me, but I assume it's just me since no one else has complained. 16:47:26 i don't think i have done https pushing 16:47:40 I'm not sure how many people are pushing to forks on dist-git 16:47:41 so I am fine closing it, or if we want to try and do it we should investigate it more (perhaps it's an iniative) 16:47:58 a fair number I think these days 16:49:12 We can close it as intiative or upstream ticket for dist-git 16:51:02 I'm not sure if it's more about deployment or how the dist-git works 16:51:21 it's deployment. It's how we setup pagure for dist-git 16:51:58 and really it's a hold over from the older pre pagure system 16:52:24 Let's close it then and ask the reporter to open it as initiative 16:52:41 Because it obviously isn't an easy task and needs more investigation 16:53:06 yeah, it could/should also be fixed more if we move to something else. 16:53:45 Ok, let me respond to ticket and close it 16:54:18 last minutes remaining, let's move on to... 16:54:19 #topic Open Floor 16:55:07 Come one, come all for next week's meeting! Learning topic: Considerations and tips regarding PyPI vs Distribution Repo installs of Ansible :) 16:55:40 Eddie Jennings, Jr.: ++ 16:56:48 We now have an ads for next meeting :-D 16:57:22 how comes it was not advertised in the board!? 16:57:49 I don't know 16:58:08 now it is :) 16:59:41 meeting is over, thanks all for attending and see you next week! 16:59:43 #endmeeting