16:00:09 <zlopez> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2023-10-26)
16:00:09 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Oct 26 16:00:09 2023 UTC.
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16:00:09 <zlopez> #meetingname infrastructure
16:00:09 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure'
16:00:09 <zlopez> #chair nirik zlopez nb bodanel dtometzki jnsamyak lenkaseg patrikp
16:00:09 <zodbot> Current chairs: bodanel dtometzki jnsamyak lenkaseg nb nirik patrikp zlopez
16:00:09 <zlopez> #info Agenda is at: https://board.net/p/fedora-infra
16:00:09 <zlopez> #info About our team: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/
16:00:09 <zlopez> #info Fedora Infra documentation: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra
16:00:11 <zlopez> #topic namaste
16:00:24 <zlopez> Welcome everyone to today Fedora infra weekly meeting
16:00:26 <zlopez> .hi
16:00:27 <zodbot> zlopez: zlopez 'Michal Konecny' <michal.konecny@pacse.eu>
16:00:35 <pcreech> .hello pcreech17
16:00:36 <zodbot> pcreech: pcreech17 'Patrick Creech' <pcreech@redhat.com>
16:01:18 <smooge> hi
16:01:33 <zlopez> welcome smooge :-)
16:02:38 <zormak> hi
16:05:22 <zlopez> Let's go to your first topic
16:05:23 <zlopez> #topic New folks introductions
16:05:24 <zlopez> #info This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora Infrastructure can introduce themselves
16:05:24 <zlopez> #info Getting Started Guide: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/GettingStarted
16:05:33 <zlopez> Anybody new on this meeting?
16:06:22 <nirik> morning
16:06:38 <zlopez> Hi nirik :-)
16:07:10 <zlopez> It doesn't seem there is anyone new on this meeting, so let's go to next topic
16:07:51 <zlopez> Let's choose the next chair. Will it be from wood? From plastic? Who knows
16:07:53 <zlopez> #topic Next chair
16:07:53 <zlopez> #info magic eight ball says:
16:07:53 <zlopez> #info chair 2023-10-26 zlopez
16:07:53 <zlopez> #info chair 2023-11-02 jednorozec
16:07:53 <zlopez> #info chair 2023-11-09 ???
16:07:54 <zlopez> #info chair 2023-11-16 ???
16:08:11 <zlopez> So who wants to be a chair on 2023-11-09?
16:08:28 <nirik> I can if noone else wants it...
16:08:29 <pcreech> Considering I ended up no-showing last week, i'll take it!
16:09:05 <zlopez> Sold to pcreech!
16:09:20 <zlopez> #info chair 2023-11-09 pcreech
16:09:40 <zlopez> Anybody wants to be a chair on 2023-11-16?
16:10:15 <zlopez> If nobody we still have two weeks in advance occupied and that's enough :-)
16:11:08 <zlopez> If there is no volunteer, let's go to announcements
16:11:15 <zlopez> #topic announcements and information
16:11:16 <zlopez> #info CPE Infra&Releng EU-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 0830 UTC in https://matrix.to/#/#meeting-3:fedoraproject.org
16:11:16 <zlopez> #info CPE Infra&Releng NA-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1800 UTC in #fedora-meeting-3
16:11:16 <zlopez> #info Fedora 39 final freeze in effect
16:11:52 <zlopez> #info Morning standup was moved because of the DST shift
16:12:28 <nirik> ugh, dst.
16:12:56 <pcreech> gotta love that DST shift.
16:12:58 <zlopez> nirik: Yeah, in EU we will switch this weekend
16:13:06 <zormak> wee, i dislike the switching
16:13:48 <zlopez> Hopefully for the last time
16:14:07 <zlopez> But we will see
16:14:19 <zlopez> Anything else worth the announcement?
16:16:13 <zlopez> #info ARC team is officially looking at the dist-git decoupling. More info here https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/dist-git-decoupling-investigation/93644
16:16:30 <nirik> hurray.
16:17:36 <zlopez> Hopefully at the end we will have design for git forge agnostic solution
16:18:05 <nirik> or at least more so
16:18:13 <zlopez> At least :-)
16:18:30 <zlopez> Let's move to next topic
16:18:40 <zlopez> Our favorite :-)
16:18:41 <zlopez> #topic Oncall
16:18:42 <zlopez> #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Oncall
16:18:42 <zlopez> #info https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/day_to_day_fedora/
16:18:42 <zlopez> ## .oncalltakeeu .oncalltakeus
16:18:42 <zlopez> #info pcreech is on call from 2023-10-20 to 2023-10-26
16:18:42 <zlopez> #info nirik is on call from 2023-10-27 to 2023-11-02
16:18:46 <zlopez> #info jednorozec is on call from 2023-11-03 to 2023-11-09
16:18:57 <nirik> .oncalltakeus
16:18:57 <zodbot> nirik: Kneel before zod!
16:19:10 <zlopez> #info ??? is on call from 2023-11-10 to 2023-11-16
16:19:31 <zlopez> I always read it as Oncall take us :-D
16:19:44 <nirik> take us away... ;)
16:19:48 <pcreech> I'll volunteer as tribute for nov 10-16
16:19:51 <zlopez> Be embraced by the oncall :-D
16:20:06 <zlopez> pcreech: Sold again!
16:20:23 <zlopez> #info pcreech is on call from 2023-11-10 to 2023-11-16
16:20:39 <zlopez> #info Summary of last week: (from current oncall )
16:20:49 <zlopez> pcreech: Any pings?
16:20:58 <pcreech> Not that I've seen
16:21:28 <pcreech> I was offline unintentionally  for about 12 hours tuesday afternoon/wednesday morning
16:21:55 <zlopez> pcreech: No problem
16:22:10 <zlopez> Probably not much happening during the freeze
16:22:24 <zlopez> But let's check that now
16:22:25 <zlopez> #topic Monitoring discussion [nirik]
16:22:25 <zlopez> #info https://nagios.fedoraproject.org/nagios
16:22:26 <zlopez> #info Go over existing out items and fix
16:23:12 <nirik> not much new I don't think
16:23:52 <nirik> ipa02 is low on disk space... thats because
16:24:12 <nirik> we didn't resize it's disk like we did 01 a while back
16:24:33 <zlopez> abompard was able to find the issue with IPA on RHEL9, hopefully we will be able to migrate it :-)
16:24:41 <nirik> bvmhost-p09-01.stg is having some heavy use... likely staging builders
16:24:57 <nirik> yeah, thank you both for moving that forward
16:26:20 <nirik> nothing else new off hand
16:27:21 <zlopez> Ok
16:27:40 <zlopez> We have a learning topic for today, if jednorozec is available
16:28:27 <zlopez> It's possible that he is still traveling home from office, in that case, I will move the talk to next week
16:28:45 <nirik> +1
16:29:19 <zlopez> So let's look at the tickets
16:29:24 <zlopez> #topic Revisit blocked tickets
16:29:24 <zlopez> #info Check if any blocked ticket is unblocked
16:29:24 <zlopez> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues?status=Open&tags=blocked&priority=0&close_status=
16:30:11 <zlopez> Anything that could be unblocked?
16:31:19 <nirik> mailman is close...
16:31:43 <nirik> when I get time I am going to look at a staging deployment
16:31:50 <nirik> almost everything is in now...
16:32:23 <zlopez> This should probably also unblock https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/10241 at least a little
16:32:34 <nirik> yeah, hopefully.
16:33:02 <nirik> I'm not sure how to populate staging off hand...
16:33:26 <nirik> we could either make it completely seperate, or we could try and import prod db/archives (but that might be a lot of data)
16:33:54 <zlopez> And talking about OIDC porting the PDC will go away soon and nuancier is already deprecated, if I'm not wrong
16:34:32 <nirik> yep. nuancer is/should be gone
16:35:04 <zlopez> nirik: I would probably just make it clean, so it takes less space, maybe just try to import small number of prod db, so we know it's possible and know how
16:35:33 <nirik> yeah, we do need some data to make sure it works and also to know we can migrate to it from the old version in prod
16:37:22 <nirik> I'm not sure how easy it is to pull part of the db... but we can look more when we have a stg instance.
16:37:47 <zlopez> I'm not sure either
16:38:20 <zlopez> I see that COPR actually added the support for OIDC https://github.com/fedora-copr/copr/issues/2422
16:40:10 <nirik> thats good. They also have openid and kerberos/gss logins... collecting them all I guess. ;)
16:40:26 <zlopez> It seems that there is actually plenty of progress on https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/10241
16:40:33 <zlopez> .ticket 10241
16:40:34 <zodbot> zlopez: Issue #10241: Port apps to OIDC - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/10241
16:41:29 <zlopez> Let's move to backlog refinement then :-)
16:41:41 <zlopez> #topic Fedora Infra backlog refinement
16:41:41 <zlopez> #info Refine oldest tickets on Fedora Infra tracker
16:41:42 <zlopez> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues?status=Open&order_key=last_updated&order=asc
16:41:44 <nirik> slow and steady wins the race... I guess.
16:42:17 <zlopez> .ticket https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/10458
16:42:17 <zodbot> zlopez: Error: 'https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/10458' is not a valid integer.
16:42:25 <zlopez> .ticket 10458
16:42:26 <zodbot> zlopez: Issue #10458: Help me move my discourse bots to production? - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/10458
16:42:46 <zlopez> This is still waiting on mattdm
16:43:00 <nirik> yep.
16:43:28 <zlopez> .ticket 11145
16:43:29 <zodbot> zlopez: Issue #11145: Tool to renew certificates for rabbitmq - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11145
16:43:53 <nirik> so...
16:44:02 <zlopez> We already have a tool created by abompard, do we want to automate that or is that enough?
16:44:24 <nirik> t0xic0der made a thing that we could use to notify people... which I have had 0 cycles to deploy or look much at. ;)
16:44:40 <nirik> and yeah, abompard made a 'reissue all the expired ones' script.
16:45:32 <nirik> it's not a easy problem because its a self created CA and sometimes we have to get new certs to remote/other people so it's not easy to automate that
16:45:44 <zlopez> The information about the t0xic0der tool is missing in the ticket, I think he just worked on https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11144
16:46:33 <nirik> I can look up a link to it. it was basically a think that automated reminders... it would open a ticket and cc people you wanted when a cert was renewed.
16:46:49 <nirik> ie, then we didn't need to tell them, they would get notice from the ticket and could close it when they got the new cert.
16:47:14 <zlopez> I think it's this one https://gitlab.com/t0xic0der/firmitas
16:47:17 <nirik> which is cool. I am not sure if it's worth it really for us... we don't have all that many of these
16:47:22 <nirik> yes! thats it.
16:47:38 <zlopez> That is in the other ticket
16:47:45 <nirik> ah right.
16:47:53 <zlopez> I'm not sure if we need anything else than
16:48:08 <zlopez> If not, I'm for closing this ticket as not needed
16:49:21 <nirik> sure, +1
16:50:12 <zlopez> Let me update it then
16:50:58 <nirik> thanks
16:51:36 <zlopez> Done
16:51:55 <zlopez> .ticket 11429
16:51:56 <zodbot> zlopez: Issue #11429: Create CentOS Matrix rooms on fedoraproject.org server and bridge them to IRC channels - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11429
16:52:23 <nirik> this is really something we need ack from the people who would pay for that. ;)
16:52:30 <zlopez> Shouldn't we mark this as blocked?
16:52:41 <zlopez> As the bridge is currently down?
16:52:54 <nirik> oh sorry, was thinking of a different one.
16:53:19 <nirik> yeah, we could... or at this point, we could close all those bridge ones and ask reporters to re-open when/if the bridge comes back?
16:53:45 <zlopez> That would be probably best
16:54:06 <nirik> It feels a bit mean to close... but just sitting there isn't doing much good.
16:54:29 <zlopez> And maybe it wouldn't be needed in the future
16:55:06 * jednorozec got back
16:55:43 <nirik> ok, there's a number of those...
16:56:09 <zlopez> I closed this one
16:56:20 <zlopez> We now have only 4 minutes left
16:56:26 <zlopez> So I will switch to open floor
16:56:36 <zlopez> #topic Open Floor
16:56:51 <zlopez> I have one question for Open Floor
16:56:59 <zlopez> Do we want to move this meeting to matrix?
16:57:10 <nirik> hey jednorozec
16:57:27 <nirik> we could. I sure would like the meetingminutes thing fixed or addressed tho...
16:58:23 <zlopez> I think rlerch is working on that
16:59:08 <zlopez> Let's just wait till the meetingminutes is addressed then
16:59:14 <nirik> yeah. Need to touch base with him later.
16:59:35 <zlopez> You have better chance to catch him than me :-D
16:59:52 <jednorozec> yeah so I will chair and do the 2nd part of pungi next week
17:00:01 <jednorozec> sorry for being late
17:00:07 <zlopez> jednorozec +1
17:00:09 <jednorozec> but it was fun in the office
17:00:12 <nirik> no worries. ;) sounds great!
17:00:15 <zlopez> No problem
17:00:34 <zlopez> We are at the end of our time, so let's end the meeting
17:00:36 <zlopez> #endmeeting