<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:00:18
!startmeeting Infrastructure (2024-02-15)
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
16:00:21
Meeting started at 2024-02-15 16:00:18 UTC
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
16:00:21
The Meeting name is 'Infrastructure (2024-02-15)'
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:00:24
!meetingname infrastructure
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:00:29
!chair nirik zlopez nb bodanel dtometzki jnsamyak lenkaseg patrikp
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:00:37
!info Agenda is at: https://board.net/p/fedora-infra About our team: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/ Fedora Infra documentation: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:00:41
!topic namaste
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:00:44
!hi
<@pcreech:matrix.org>
16:00:46
!hello pcreech17
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:00:56
morning
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:01:18
Patrick Creech (pcreech17)
<@leo:fedora.im>
16:01:18
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:01:19
Leo Puvilland (leo) - he / him / his
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:01:29
Welcome everyone on the Fedora boat :-)
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:02:25
Today sail will take us to Infrastructure shores
<@darknao:fedora.im>
16:02:38
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:02:40
Francois Andrieu (darknao) - he / him / his
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:03:04
Hopefully we will have some fun there
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:03:37
!topic New folks introductions
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:03:44
!info This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora Infrastructure can introduce themselves Getting Started Guide: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra/gettingstarted/
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:03:53
Somebody new with us today?
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:04:43
Good evening to all. 👋
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:05:54
It seems that everybody here is a veteran in Fedora infra
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:05:59
Let's continue then
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:06:04
!topic Next chair
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:06:09
!info magic eight ball says:
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:06:12
!info chair 2024-02-15 zlopez
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:06:17
!info chair 2024-02-22 lenkaseg
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:06:22
!info chair 2024-02-29 ???
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:06:42
Anybody want to lead this sail on 2024-02-29?
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:07:26
I can take it.
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:07:38
Sold!
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:08:00
!info chair 2024-02-29 patrikp
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:08:38
note that this is a red hat day of learning... just FYI
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:09:02
You can always learn something here :-)
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:09:33
I hope so!
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:09:38
Let's look at the horizon
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:09:43
!topic announcements and information
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:09:48
!info CPE Infra&Releng EU-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 0830 UTC in https://matrix.to/#/#meeting-3:fedoraproject.org
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:09:52
!info CPE Infra&Releng NA-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1800 UTC in #fedora-meeting-3
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:09:58
Do you see anything else?
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:10:24
!info F40 mass branching finished
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:10:36
!info nirik on PTO monday 2024-02-19 :)
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:10:57
!info 2024-02-23 is a red hat recharge day...
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:11:04
!info zlopez on PTO Friday 2024-02-16
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:11:41
I see there are plenty of things on horizon :-)
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:11:47
!f40 beta freeze starts 2024-02-27
<@lenkaseg:fedora.im>
16:12:41
!.hi
<@lenkaseg:fedora.im>
16:12:47
I mean
<@lenkaseg:fedora.im>
16:12:49
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:12:50
Lenka Segura (lenkaseg)
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:13:10
Anything else to add to announcements?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:13:57
Oh, and stupid daylight savings time is on the horizon too.
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:14:22
Damn, I hope we got rid of that already :-/
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:14:47
yeah, I wish
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:15:04
Let's continue with Oncall
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:15:27
So who is the friend on phone for upcoming week
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:15:32
!topic Oncall
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:15:38
!info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Oncall https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/day_to_day_fedora/
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:15:43
!info zlopez is on call from 2024-02-09 to 2024-02-15
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:15:47
!info ??? is on call from 2024-02-16 to 2024-02-22
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:15:53
!info ??? is on call from 2024-02-23 to 2024-02-29
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:16:14
No friend on phone for next two weeks right now
<@darknao:fedora.im>
16:16:18
I can take the next oncall
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:16:24
I can take the one after
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:16:32
Both sold!
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:16:46
!info darknao is on call from 2024-02-16 to 2024-02-22
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:16:55
!info nirik is on call from 2024-02-23 to 2024-02-29
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:17:42
!info Summary of last week: (from current oncall )
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:17:58
I'm not aware of any ping
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:18:24
We had some koji outage during mass branching, but otherwise it was mostly quiet
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:18:41
idle thought: I wonder if we could edit the 'app not answering' openshift page and mention our contact process/oncall, etc...
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:19:30
Would be nice to have that there
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:19:42
Is this shown by OpenShift or proxies?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:19:56
openshift.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:20:02
I am not sure how hard it is to adjust
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:20:16
I assume it's doable
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:21:40
will have to look, but I think it's just passing a different 503 template to the route...
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:21:50
anyhow, just a random thought...
<@leo:fedora.im>
16:22:39
i could take a look…
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:22:45
I already found something https://serverfault.com/questions/791027/openshift-haproxy-503-custom-page
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:23:21
But it should be doable on openshift side
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:23:46
Let's continue to next topic
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:23:55
!topic Monitoring discussion [nirik]
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:24:01
!info https://nagios.fedoraproject.org/nagios Go over existing out items and fix
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:24:27
nothing too interesting this week... bvmhost-p09-04 is down with raid problems (will look at it more later today).
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:25:38
It's good to see that there isn't everything broken :-D
<@smooge:fedora.im>
16:25:40
was that one of the boxes you were having speed problems with kernels?
<@smooge:fedora.im>
16:25:55
due to the sata drives?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:26:03
all of them had speed problems. ;)
<@smooge:fedora.im>
16:26:17
ah ok I thought there was one which was really really bad
<@smooge:fedora.im>
16:26:28
but it might have been just the one you were on at the time
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:26:28
This one is a loaner from ibm too... and says "out of warentee" but has a 'service until 2026' thing. so... that will be fun.
<@smooge:fedora.im>
16:26:41
oh man.
<@smooge:fedora.im>
16:26:55
your alternatives are bleak
<@smooge:fedora.im>
16:27:18
insert david tennant dr who: "I am very sorry. I am so so sorry"
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:27:44
don't blink. oh wait, thats a different thing.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:27:51
anyhow, nothing too exciting on monitoring
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:28:16
I don't see any learning topic in agenda
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:28:26
Does anybody has something to talk about?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:29:12
I had one quick item...
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:29:40
I was thinking of scheduling another outage next week... to upgrade to latest koji version, but also to move db01 to rhel9/newer postgres...
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:30:37
will see about proposing / announcing that soon.
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:31:30
Let's go through our backlog as we didn't do that for some time
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:31:38
!topic Revisit blocked tickets
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:31:43
!info Check if any blocked ticket is unblocked !link https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues?status=Open&tags=blocked&priority=0&close_status=
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:32:35
so, thats another thing I should bring up...
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:33:00
mailman is all packaged now (although they are making adjustments to packaging). I started deploying to staging... but I haven't been able to get back to it.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:33:11
would anyone(s) else be intested in working on it?
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:33:26
What needs to be done?
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:33:41
Updating mailman playbooks?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:33:41
basically our playbooks need a bunch of adjustment, possibly we should even just make a new role/mailman3 to avoid messing up prod...
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:33:45
yeah.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:33:54
and any config changes since our version.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:34:17
staging actually has an old database already.
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:34:47
I can try to look into that next week
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:35:19
that would be awesome
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:35:44
there's already a mailman01.stg vm... it just fails when it starts on the mailman role (because of package name changes between rhel7 and 9)
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:35:53
So we can remove the blocked label from 8455
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:35:59
!ticket 8455
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:36:15
**fedora-infrastructure #8455** (https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/8455):**Move mailman to newer release of Fedora or CentOS** ● **Opened:** 4 years ago by smooge ● **Last Updated:** a month ago ● **Assignee:** nphilipp
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:37:15
We can also probibly ping in 8291 again. That was no longer blocked on our side, just waiting for the other side I think?
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:37:39
!ticket 8291
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:37:40
**fedora-infrastructure #8291** (https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/8291):**Fedora messaging - Translation platform topics review** ● **Opened:** 4 years ago by jibecfed ● **Last Updated:** 6 months ago ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:37:50
Oh, I see nphillpp was assigned to that one, perhaps he would like to work on it? but likely thats ancient.
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:38:39
He was assigned to it 3 years ago, so I just assigned myself
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:39:13
I'm for closing 8291
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:39:23
ok
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:39:29
Or do we want to leave it open?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:39:43
I wasn't sure if we still needed to do some config change on our end? but we can ask them to reopen or file new if so?
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:40:33
Let me update the ticket
<@smooge:fedora.im>
16:42:08
Zlopez: when you work on mailman3 in stage you will want to follow things like https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/upgrade-3.2.html#upgrade-from-3-3-1-to-3-3-1
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:42:34
Thanks Stephen J Smoogen
<@smooge:fedora.im>
16:42:41
it caused one site to unsubscribe all their users
<@smooge:fedora.im>
16:42:57
because enough random bounces over time had added up
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:43:53
Let's go to ticket refienement now
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:44:22
Stephen J Smoogen: I will see how it will go, didn't worked with mailman much before
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:44:34
!topic Fedora Infra backlog refinement
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:44:38
!info Refine oldest tickets on Fedora Infra tracker
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:44:42
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:45:09
!ticket 11324
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:45:10
**fedora-infrastructure #11324** (https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11324):**[Badges] [DB] Dump snapshot of existing Badges database in line with updated schema** ● **Opened:** 9 months ago by jflory7 ● **Last Updated:** 6 months ago ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:46:18
I see last commit from Akashdeep Dhar 6 months ago
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:47:07
The issue it's pointing to is already closed as completed
<@smooge:fedora.im>
16:47:20
ask and close?
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:47:52
Probably, as this doesn't need anything else from Fedora Infrastructure
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:48:07
And it has a deadline 2023-06-21
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:50:06
!ticket 11042
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:50:07
**fedora-infrastructure #11042** (https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11042):**MBS 3.8.0 Release** ● **Opened:** a year ago by breilly ● **Last Updated:** 6 months ago ● **Assignee:** dherrera
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:50:57
I see that last comment is from nirik 6 months ago, that we will do this after beta freeze
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:52:40
I don't think this was ever deployed
<@smooge:fedora.im>
16:53:14
i was wondering if it was all moot since modularity goes away in ??? days
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:53:51
I was gonna try and do it, but I never got to it...
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:54:06
they did want it, but yeah, hard to want to spend much time on it now
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:54:20
At this time, it is probably better to just close it as the MBS will be decommissioned soon
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:55:15
Or we can keep it open, maybe somebody will want to do that
<@smooge:fedora.im>
16:55:18
it is norwegian parrot
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:55:48
I think it's not gonna be easy...
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:55:59
What would be parrot doing in Norwegia?
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:56:47
nirik: You can ask Fabian as he did the deployment for CentOS
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:57:26
Let's keep the ticket for now, we can always close it later
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:57:54
Ok, we have last 3 minutes
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:58:03
!topic Open Floor
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:58:18
well, sure, but... I also have more important things going on. ;)
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:58:18
Anything for open floor?
<@smooge:fedora.im>
16:58:48
the floor needs some sweeping, mopping and some polishing?
<@smooge:fedora.im>
16:58:57
aka I have nothing for open floor
<@leo:fedora.im>
16:59:02
hah.
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:59:14
nirik: I assume you do, feel free to ignore this for now :-)
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
16:59:54
We should probably start to prioritize work on things that are still hosted on RHEL 7
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:00:29
yes
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
17:00:56
We are at the end of our time
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
17:01:08
I'm worried about badges and kerneltest and fedimg at least
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
17:01:18
But I would like to review next week two tickets
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
17:01:27
!ticket 8213
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:01:28
**fedora-infrastructure #8213** (https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/8213):**fedmsg -> fedora-messaging migration tracker** ● **Opened:** 4 years ago by kevin ● **Last Updated:** 3 months ago ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
17:01:33
!ticket 10632
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
17:01:35
**fedora-infrastructure #10632** (https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/10632):**rhel9 adoption** ● **Opened:** a year ago by kevin ● **Last Updated:** 3 months ago ● **Assignee:** aheath1992
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
17:02:27
And that is all for today, nice rest of the day everyone :-)
<@Zlopez:matrix.org>
17:02:34
!endmeeting