#meeting-3:fedoraproject.org log

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:00:02

!startmeeting Infrastructure (2024-03-28)

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

16:00:04

Meeting started at 2024-03-28 16:00:02 UTC

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

16:00:05

The Meeting name is 'Infrastructure (2024-03-28)'

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:00:08

!meetingname infrastructure

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:00:14

!info Agenda is at: https://board.net/p/fedora-infra

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:00:22

About our team: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:00:27

Fedora Infra documentation: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:00:32

!topic namaste

<@leo:fedora.im>

16:00:39

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

16:00:41

Leo Puvilland (leo) - he / him / his

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:01:12

morning leo

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

16:01:30

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

16:01:31

Michal Konecny (zlopez)

<@leo:fedora.im>

16:01:40

morning nirik :)

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:02:05

will wait for a few minutes for folks to arrive.

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:03:43

alright, small crowd today. ;)

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:03:45

!topic New folks introductions

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:03:53

!info This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora Infrastructure can introduce themselves

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:03:58

Getting Started Guide: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra/gettingstarted/

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:04:03

Any new folks around today?

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:04:14

Hey smooge... 2 pots already? must be monday?

<@smooge:fedora.im>

16:04:32

4th monday

<@leo:fedora.im>

16:05:22

hah.

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:05:28

ok, no new folks then... moving on

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:05:31

!topic Next chair

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:05:37

!info magic eight ball says:

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:05:42

!info chair 2024-04-04 lenkaseg

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:05:48

!info chair 2024-04-11 ?

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:05:53

!info chair 2024-04-18 ?

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:06:01

anyone want to sign up for the 11th or 18th?

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:07:53

🦗s

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

16:08:06

I can take the 11th

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:08:10

ok, we have next week, so we can wait I guess?

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:08:18

ah, thanks Zlopez

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:08:40

!topic announcements and information

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:08:45

!info CPE Infra&Releng EU-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 0830 UTC in https://matrix.to/#/#meeting-3:fedoraproject.org

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:08:57

!info CPE Infra&Releng NA-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1800 UTC in #fedora-meeting-3

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:09:04

!info we are out of F40 Beta freeze, F40 Beta has been released!

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:09:10

!info F40 final freeze starts 2024-04-02 (next tuesday!)

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:09:22

any other announcements or info from anyone?

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:09:38

just FYI, later this morning I am going to retire all our OSBS clusters. ;)

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:10:41

ok, moving on then

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:10:47

!topic Oncall

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:10:53

!info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Oncall

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:11:00

!info leo is on call from 2024-03-22 to 2024-03-28

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:11:05

!info nirik is on call from 2024-03-28 to 2024-04-04

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:11:09

!info ? is on call from 2024-04-05 to 2024-04-11

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:11:17

anyone want the last week there?

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:12:10

again, I guess we can decide next week. ;)

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:12:18

!info Summary of last week: (from current oncall)

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:12:27

leo: anything of note to report?

<@leo:fedora.im>

16:12:36

very calm. nothing really of note :)

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:12:50

great. :)

<@leo:fedora.im>

16:12:55

oh, other than ipsilon being wonky again

<@leo:fedora.im>

16:13:03

nothing new though

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:13:19

I repaved ipsilon with new f39 yesterday. So far 🤞

<@leo:fedora.im>

16:13:28

oh nice let’s see if that works

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:13:53

if not, we at least have a up to date place to start more debugging.

<@leo:fedora.im>

16:14:01

sounds good

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:14:10

!topic Monitoring discussion [nirik]

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:14:15

!info https://nagios.fedoraproject.org/nagios

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:14:36

So, I pushed a fix for the power9 max procs alerts... that should be hopefully good now.

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:14:59

vmhost-x86-copr02 finally is back on line (down a cpu). They should be shipping a replacement to us...

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:15:58

both db01 and db-datanommer02 are alerting on low space... but I am waiting on that until new machines land in a few weeks to move them.

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:16:03

(so after f40 is out)

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:16:32

and there's one vmhost down because it was replaced and networking hasn't set the ports so I can get to it yet. ;)

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:16:50

otherwise I think things are in reasonable shape. :)

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:17:22

So, did we want to try and do a learning topic today? or backlog? or just end early? Please vote.

<@leo:fedora.im>

16:17:55

is there a learning topic idea in store?

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:18:18

we have a bunch of ideas, but not sure.

<@leo:fedora.im>

16:18:24

ah, ok

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:18:54

I mean, I could pontificate on something if folks wanted... just would need to know what. :)

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:19:19

Oh, there was one thing I wanted to mention...

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

16:19:30

Do we have any idea for Flock 2024 workshop?

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:19:56

I am thinking of applying updates all around... there's not time for a reboot outage, but I want to apply the updates and reboot some machines that wouldn't cause outages and be up to date on things before we go into freeze.

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:20:21

oh yeah, I have a email / discussion thread I wanted to start on that. Just need to post it.

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

16:21:12

I would like to do some overview of what Fedora Infra did, does, will do

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:21:42

as part of the workshop? or you mean a talk?

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

16:21:52

Probably separate talk

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:22:15

yeah, that sounds good to me. Happy to help with it if you like...

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:22:39

could that fit in the small talk slot? I think they are 25min, which is really not much time at all.

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

16:23:03

I need to first propose it for CFP

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

16:23:24

I think it will be longer than that

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:23:45

yeah, 25m is not much time at all indeed. I think the other talk slot is 50m

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

16:25:27

But right now most of time is consumed by outreachy folks and mailman3 deployment

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

16:26:01

I finally got over the apache part, but getting 500 all over the place :-D

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:26:21

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

16:27:19

Plenty of moving parts in case of mailman3

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

16:27:45

Learnt a lot about Django and Apache in the meantime

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:28:02

yeah, it's a lot of parts.

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:29:06

ok, shall we end early again? or ?

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

16:29:56

I'll would for doing backlog refinement

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

16:30:07

I'll would be for doing backlog refinement

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:30:18

ok, we can...

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:30:35

!info Check if any blocked ticket is unblocked

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:30:46

!link https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues?status=Open&tags=blocked&priority=0&close_status=

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:31:29

nothing unblocked yet... but movement on mailman (2 tickets)

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:31:47

!topic Fedora Infra backlog refinement

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:31:53

!info Refine oldest tickets on Fedora Infra tracker

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:31:57

!link https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues?status=Open&order_key=last_updated&order=asc

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:32:16

ticket 7361

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:32:21

!ticket 7361

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

16:32:27

**fedora-infrastructure #7361** (https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/7361):**Signing infrastructure for aarch64** ● **Opened:** 5 years ago by pbrobinson ● **Last Updated:** 9 months ago ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:32:38

so, there is some movement on this, but I would still call it blocked.

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

16:32:42

5 yo ticket, wow!

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:33:06

I am planning on rolling out new sigul, but... we still need to integrate the secureboot signing into it.

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:33:27

I mean new sigul can pe sign, but we need to figure out how that all fits into builds, etc.

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

16:33:33

We can probably skip the blocked ones

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:33:38

yeah

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:33:50

!ticket 10042

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

16:33:51

**fedora-infrastructure #10042** (https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/10042):**Provide Commit/Issue Access to Websites/Webapps Repos** ● **Closed: Invalid** 2 years ago by nb ● **Opened:** 2 years ago by t0xic0der ● **Last Updated:** 2 years ago ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:33:57

oops

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:34:07

!ticket 11042

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

16:34:07

**fedora-infrastructure #11042** (https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11042):**MBS 3.8.0 Release** ● **Opened:** a year ago by breilly ● **Last Updated:** 7 months ago ● **Assignee:** dherrera

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:34:20

I am pretty sure we are never going to get to this one at this point.

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

16:34:22

I think this will go away with MBS retirement

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:34:26

yeah.

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:34:41

I mean, it would be nice to update it, but... a lot of work for not much gain.

<@smooge:fedora.im>

16:34:52

I think it would be ok to 'cant fix'

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

16:35:10

I agree

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:35:30

ok, shall we close it and say that I guess? want me to? or you want to?

<@smooge:fedora.im>

16:35:35

'not enough time before heatdeath of the universe' is also valid

<@leo:fedora.im>

16:36:07

hahah

<@smooge:fedora.im>

16:37:03

MBS retirement happens when F38 is EOL?

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:37:15

yes

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

16:37:15

nirik: I think we can leave it open till the MBS will be retired

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:37:24

ok.

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

16:37:44

I will just update it

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:37:50

ok, thanks.

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:38:11

!ticket 11588

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

16:38:12

**fedora-infrastructure #11588** (https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11588):**FUTURE Cryptographic policy blocks rpm-ostree update** ● **Opened:** 5 months ago by sherghan ● **Last Updated:** 5 months ago ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:38:47

I'd propose we close this as cantfix.

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:39:23

we could go to a lot of great lengths to get it working, but FUTURE is... not something we should agree to support. it's the future. it's not now.

<@leo:fedora.im>

16:39:46

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

16:40:00

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:40:34

shall I? or you updating tickets Zlopez? I

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

16:40:54

I can do that

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:41:08

thanks

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:41:21

!ticket 10241

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

16:41:29

**fedora-infrastructure #10241** (https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/10241):**Port apps to OIDC** ● **Opened:** 2 years ago by zlopez ● **Last Updated:** 3 months ago ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:41:48

I guess this is blocked. sorry

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:41:59

!ticket 10458

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

16:42:00

**fedora-infrastructure #10458** (https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/10458):**Help me move my discourse bots to production?** ● **Opened:** 2 years ago by mattdm ● **Last Updated:** 3 months ago ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:43:13

So, let me ask mattdm the next time I talk with him about this.

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:43:19

there's offers of help on it...

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

16:43:19

The situation is still the same

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:44:02

I'll see if I can find out if we can move it forward.

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:44:20

!ticket 11452

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

16:44:21

**fedora-infrastructure #11452** (https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11452):**Communishift namespace creation** ● **Opened:** 7 months ago by lrossett ● **Last Updated:** 3 months ago ● **Assignee:** patrikp

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:44:29

we could process this now?

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

16:45:12

Yeah, we can do it now

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:45:34

yep. Just needs a ansible commit and run...

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

16:46:13

I commented on the issue

<@leo:fedora.im>

16:46:33

if you want i can do it

<@leo:fedora.im>

16:46:42

the committee

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:47:04

leo: a pr would be great

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:47:12

committee?

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:47:23

oh, commit... right

<@leo:fedora.im>

16:47:30

sounds good

<@leo:fedora.im>

16:47:34

typo, whoops

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:48:01

!ticket 11144

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

16:48:02

**fedora-infrastructure #11144** (https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11144):**Create monitoring tool for rabbitmq certificates** ● **Opened:** a year ago by zlopez ● **Last Updated:** 3 months ago ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

16:48:27

I think the tool is available, it's just not running anywhere

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:48:51

right, not deployed yet. Akashdeep Dhar wrote a tool. It checks and opens tickets when things are expired.

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:49:05

just not been high pri on my list.

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

16:49:06

And I see the last comment is asking nirik some questions

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:49:39

I can update it...

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:50:02

I guess we can use it to track deploying the app/tool...

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:50:55

!ticket 10891

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

16:50:56

**fedora-infrastructure #10891** (https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/10891):**Haskell package group** ● **Opened:** a year ago by petersen ● **Last Updated:** 2 months ago ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

16:51:27

I see the FESCO ticket got accepted

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:51:50

yeah...

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:51:56

this change is actually in releng...

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:52:11

or... is the assignment the only thing left? we have groups, etc?

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:52:57

releng/scripts/fesco/sig-policy/sig_policy.py just needs to have this added to it. in releng repo.

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

16:52:58

It seems that the groups are already in FAS

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:53:20

I can try and get to that, and/or someone could do a PR. ;)

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

16:53:57

But we are probably missing the mailing list

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:54:32

I can look more closely later... or if someone else does, update the ticket?

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:54:38

we are almost out of time now...

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:54:45

!topic open floor

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

16:55:13

I see the haskell group in IPA, so it's there

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

16:55:53

The time flies!

<@leo:fedora.im>

16:56:31

nothing much from me

<@Zlopez:matrix.org>

16:57:10

One announcement, there is a Easter Monday next week and plenty of folks will be unavailable

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:57:33

I have a ton of things I am going to try and get done today/tomorrow... hopefully we can be in good shape for freeze.

<@leo:fedora.im>

16:57:49

fingers crossed

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:58:30

alright. Thanks for coming everyone. Lets continue in regular channels... ;)

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

16:58:36

!endmeeting