2024-03-28 16:00:02 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !startmeeting Infrastructure (2024-03-28)
2024-03-28 16:00:04 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-03-28 16:00:02 UTC
2024-03-28 16:00:05 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'Infrastructure (2024-03-28)'
2024-03-28 16:00:08 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !meetingname infrastructure
2024-03-28 16:00:14 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info Agenda is at: https://board.net/p/fedora-infra
2024-03-28 16:00:22 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> About our team: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/
2024-03-28 16:00:27 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> Fedora Infra documentation: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra
2024-03-28 16:00:32 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !topic namaste
2024-03-28 16:00:39 <@leo:fedora.im> !hi
2024-03-28 16:00:41 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Leo Puvilland (leo) - he / him / his
2024-03-28 16:01:12 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> morning leo
2024-03-28 16:01:30 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> !hi
2024-03-28 16:01:31 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Michal Konecny (zlopez)
2024-03-28 16:01:40 <@leo:fedora.im> morning nirik :)
2024-03-28 16:02:05 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> will wait for a few minutes for folks to arrive.
2024-03-28 16:03:43 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> alright, small crowd today. ;)
2024-03-28 16:03:45 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !topic New folks introductions
2024-03-28 16:03:53 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora Infrastructure can introduce themselves
2024-03-28 16:03:58 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> Getting Started Guide: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra/gettingstarted/
2024-03-28 16:04:03 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> Any new folks around today?
2024-03-28 16:04:14 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> Hey smooge... 2 pots already? must be monday?
2024-03-28 16:04:32 <@smooge:fedora.im> 4th monday
2024-03-28 16:05:22 <@leo:fedora.im> hah.
2024-03-28 16:05:28 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> ok, no new folks then... moving on
2024-03-28 16:05:31 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !topic Next chair
2024-03-28 16:05:37 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info magic eight ball says:
2024-03-28 16:05:42 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info chair 2024-04-04 lenkaseg
2024-03-28 16:05:48 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info chair 2024-04-11 ?
2024-03-28 16:05:53 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info chair 2024-04-18 ?
2024-03-28 16:06:01 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> anyone want to sign up for the 11th or 18th?
2024-03-28 16:07:53 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> 🦗s
2024-03-28 16:08:06 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> I can take the 11th
2024-03-28 16:08:10 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> ok, we have next week, so we can wait I guess?
2024-03-28 16:08:18 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> ah, thanks Zlopez
2024-03-28 16:08:40 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !topic announcements and information
2024-03-28 16:08:45 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info CPE Infra&Releng EU-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 0830 UTC in https://matrix.to/#/#meeting-3:fedoraproject.org
2024-03-28 16:08:57 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info CPE Infra&Releng NA-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1800 UTC in #fedora-meeting-3
2024-03-28 16:09:04 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info we are out of F40 Beta freeze, F40 Beta has been released!
2024-03-28 16:09:10 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info F40 final freeze starts 2024-04-02 (next tuesday!)
2024-03-28 16:09:22 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> any other announcements or info from anyone?
2024-03-28 16:09:38 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> just FYI, later this morning I am going to retire all our OSBS clusters. ;)
2024-03-28 16:10:41 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> ok, moving on then
2024-03-28 16:10:47 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !topic Oncall
2024-03-28 16:10:53 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Oncall
2024-03-28 16:11:00 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info leo is on call from 2024-03-22 to 2024-03-28
2024-03-28 16:11:05 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info nirik is on call from 2024-03-28 to 2024-04-04
2024-03-28 16:11:09 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info ? is on call from 2024-04-05 to 2024-04-11
2024-03-28 16:11:17 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> anyone want the last week there?
2024-03-28 16:12:10 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> again, I guess we can decide next week. ;)
2024-03-28 16:12:18 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info Summary of last week: (from current oncall)
2024-03-28 16:12:27 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> leo: anything of note to report?
2024-03-28 16:12:36 <@leo:fedora.im> very calm. nothing really of note :)
2024-03-28 16:12:50 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> great. :)
2024-03-28 16:12:55 <@leo:fedora.im> oh, other than ipsilon being wonky again
2024-03-28 16:13:03 <@leo:fedora.im> nothing new though
2024-03-28 16:13:19 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I repaved ipsilon with new f39 yesterday. So far 🤞
2024-03-28 16:13:28 <@leo:fedora.im> oh nice let’s see if that works 
2024-03-28 16:13:53 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> if not, we at least have a up to date place to start more debugging.
2024-03-28 16:14:01 <@leo:fedora.im> sounds good
2024-03-28 16:14:10 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !topic Monitoring discussion [nirik]
2024-03-28 16:14:15 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info https://nagios.fedoraproject.org/nagios
2024-03-28 16:14:36 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> So, I pushed a fix for the power9 max procs alerts... that should be hopefully good now.
2024-03-28 16:14:59 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> vmhost-x86-copr02 finally is back on line (down a cpu). They should be shipping a replacement to us...
2024-03-28 16:15:58 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> both db01 and db-datanommer02 are alerting on low space... but I am waiting on that until new machines land in a few weeks to move them.
2024-03-28 16:16:03 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> (so after f40 is out)
2024-03-28 16:16:32 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> and there's one vmhost down because it was replaced and networking hasn't set the ports so I can get to it yet. ;)
2024-03-28 16:16:50 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> otherwise I think things are in reasonable shape. :)
2024-03-28 16:17:22 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> So, did we want to try and do a learning topic today? or backlog? or just end early? Please vote.
2024-03-28 16:17:55 <@leo:fedora.im> is there a learning topic idea in store?
2024-03-28 16:18:18 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> we have a bunch of ideas, but not sure.
2024-03-28 16:18:24 <@leo:fedora.im> ah, ok
2024-03-28 16:18:54 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I mean, I could pontificate on something if folks wanted... just would need to know what. :)
2024-03-28 16:19:19 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> Oh, there was one thing I wanted to mention...
2024-03-28 16:19:30 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> Do we have any idea for Flock 2024 workshop?
2024-03-28 16:19:56 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I am thinking of applying updates all around... there's not time for a reboot outage, but I want to apply the updates and reboot some machines that wouldn't cause outages and be up to date on things before we go into freeze.
2024-03-28 16:20:21 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> oh yeah, I have a email / discussion thread I wanted to start on that. Just need to post it.
2024-03-28 16:21:12 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> I would like to do some overview of what Fedora Infra did, does, will do
2024-03-28 16:21:42 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> as part of the workshop? or you mean a talk?
2024-03-28 16:21:52 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> Probably separate talk
2024-03-28 16:22:15 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, that sounds good to me. Happy to help with it if you like...
2024-03-28 16:22:39 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> could that fit in the small talk slot? I think they are 25min, which is really not much time at all.
2024-03-28 16:23:03 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> I need to first propose it for CFP
2024-03-28 16:23:24 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> I think it will be longer than that
2024-03-28 16:23:45 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, 25m is not much time at all indeed. I think the other talk slot is 50m
2024-03-28 16:25:27 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> But right now most of time is consumed by outreachy folks and mailman3 deployment
2024-03-28 16:26:01 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> I finally got over the apache part, but getting 500 all over the place :-D
2024-03-28 16:26:21 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> :(
2024-03-28 16:27:19 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> Plenty of moving parts in case of mailman3
2024-03-28 16:27:45 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> Learnt a lot about Django and Apache in the meantime
2024-03-28 16:28:02 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, it's a lot of parts.
2024-03-28 16:29:06 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> ok, shall we end early again? or ?
2024-03-28 16:29:56 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> I'll would for doing backlog refinement
2024-03-28 16:30:07 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> I'll would be for doing backlog refinement
2024-03-28 16:30:18 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> ok, we can...
2024-03-28 16:30:35 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info Check if any blocked ticket is unblocked
2024-03-28 16:30:46 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !link https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues?status=Open&tags=blocked&priority=0&close_status=
2024-03-28 16:31:29 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> nothing unblocked yet... but movement on mailman (2 tickets)
2024-03-28 16:31:47 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !topic Fedora Infra backlog refinement
2024-03-28 16:31:53 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info Refine oldest tickets on Fedora Infra tracker
2024-03-28 16:31:57 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !link https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues?status=Open&order_key=last_updated&order=asc
2024-03-28 16:32:16 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> ticket 7361
2024-03-28 16:32:21 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !ticket 7361
2024-03-28 16:32:27 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **fedora-infrastructure #7361** (https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/7361):**Signing infrastructure for aarch64**

● **Opened:** 5 years ago by pbrobinson
● **Last Updated:** 9 months ago
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2024-03-28 16:32:38 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> so, there is some movement on this, but I would still call it blocked.
2024-03-28 16:32:42 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> 5 yo ticket, wow!
2024-03-28 16:33:06 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I am planning on rolling out new sigul, but... we still need to integrate the secureboot signing into it.
2024-03-28 16:33:27 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I mean new sigul can pe sign, but we need to figure out how that all fits into builds, etc.
2024-03-28 16:33:33 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> We can probably skip the blocked ones
2024-03-28 16:33:38 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah
2024-03-28 16:33:50 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !ticket 10042
2024-03-28 16:33:51 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **fedora-infrastructure #10042** (https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/10042):**Provide Commit/Issue Access to Websites/Webapps Repos**

● **Closed: Invalid** 2 years ago by nb
● **Opened:** 2 years ago by t0xic0der
● **Last Updated:** 2 years ago
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2024-03-28 16:33:57 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> oops
2024-03-28 16:34:07 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !ticket 11042
2024-03-28 16:34:07 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **fedora-infrastructure #11042** (https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11042):**MBS 3.8.0 Release**

● **Opened:** a year ago by breilly
● **Last Updated:** 7 months ago
● **Assignee:** dherrera
2024-03-28 16:34:20 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I am pretty sure we are never going to get to this one at this point.
2024-03-28 16:34:22 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> I think this will go away with MBS retirement
2024-03-28 16:34:26 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah.
2024-03-28 16:34:41 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I mean, it would be nice to update it, but... a lot of work for not much gain.
2024-03-28 16:34:52 <@smooge:fedora.im> I think it would be ok to 'cant fix'
2024-03-28 16:35:10 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> I agree
2024-03-28 16:35:30 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> ok, shall we close it and say that I guess? want me to? or you want to?
2024-03-28 16:35:35 <@smooge:fedora.im> 'not enough time before heatdeath of the universe' is also valid
2024-03-28 16:36:07 <@leo:fedora.im> hahah
2024-03-28 16:37:03 <@smooge:fedora.im> MBS retirement happens when F38 is EOL?
2024-03-28 16:37:15 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yes
2024-03-28 16:37:15 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> nirik: I think we can leave it open till the MBS will be retired
2024-03-28 16:37:24 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> ok.
2024-03-28 16:37:44 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> I will just update it
2024-03-28 16:37:50 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> ok, thanks.
2024-03-28 16:38:11 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !ticket 11588
2024-03-28 16:38:12 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **fedora-infrastructure #11588** (https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11588):**FUTURE Cryptographic policy blocks rpm-ostree update**

● **Opened:** 5 months ago by sherghan
● **Last Updated:** 5 months ago
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2024-03-28 16:38:47 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I'd propose we close this as cantfix.
2024-03-28 16:39:23 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> we could go to a lot of great lengths to get it working, but FUTURE is... not something we should agree to support. it's the future. it's not now.
2024-03-28 16:39:46 <@leo:fedora.im> +1
2024-03-28 16:40:00 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> +1
2024-03-28 16:40:34 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> shall I? or you updating tickets Zlopez? I
2024-03-28 16:40:54 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> I can do that
2024-03-28 16:41:08 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> thanks
2024-03-28 16:41:21 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !ticket 10241
2024-03-28 16:41:29 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **fedora-infrastructure #10241** (https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/10241):**Port apps to OIDC**

● **Opened:** 2 years ago by zlopez
● **Last Updated:** 3 months ago
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2024-03-28 16:41:48 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I guess this is blocked. sorry
2024-03-28 16:41:59 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !ticket 10458
2024-03-28 16:42:00 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **fedora-infrastructure #10458** (https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/10458):**Help me move my discourse bots to production?**

● **Opened:** 2 years ago by mattdm
● **Last Updated:** 3 months ago
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2024-03-28 16:43:13 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> So, let me ask mattdm the next time I talk with him about this.
2024-03-28 16:43:19 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> there's offers of help on it...
2024-03-28 16:43:19 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> The situation is still the same
2024-03-28 16:44:02 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I'll see if I can find out if we can move it forward.
2024-03-28 16:44:20 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !ticket 11452
2024-03-28 16:44:21 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **fedora-infrastructure #11452** (https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11452):**Communishift namespace creation**

● **Opened:** 7 months ago by lrossett
● **Last Updated:** 3 months ago
● **Assignee:** patrikp
2024-03-28 16:44:29 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> we could process this now?
2024-03-28 16:45:12 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> Yeah, we can do it now
2024-03-28 16:45:34 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yep. Just needs a ansible commit and run...
2024-03-28 16:46:13 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> I commented on the issue
2024-03-28 16:46:33 <@leo:fedora.im> if you want i can do it
2024-03-28 16:46:42 <@leo:fedora.im> the committee
2024-03-28 16:47:04 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> leo: a pr would be great
2024-03-28 16:47:12 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> committee?
2024-03-28 16:47:23 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> oh, commit... right
2024-03-28 16:47:30 <@leo:fedora.im> sounds good
2024-03-28 16:47:34 <@leo:fedora.im> typo, whoops
2024-03-28 16:48:01 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !ticket 11144
2024-03-28 16:48:02 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **fedora-infrastructure #11144** (https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11144):**Create monitoring tool for rabbitmq certificates**

● **Opened:** a year ago by zlopez
● **Last Updated:** 3 months ago
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2024-03-28 16:48:27 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> I think the tool is available, it's just not running anywhere
2024-03-28 16:48:51 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> right, not deployed yet. Akashdeep Dhar wrote a tool. It checks and opens tickets when things are expired.
2024-03-28 16:49:05 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> just not been high pri on my list.
2024-03-28 16:49:06 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> And I see the last comment is asking nirik some questions
2024-03-28 16:49:39 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I can update it...
2024-03-28 16:50:02 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I guess we can use it to track deploying the app/tool...
2024-03-28 16:50:55 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !ticket 10891
2024-03-28 16:50:56 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **fedora-infrastructure #10891** (https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/10891):**Haskell package group**

● **Opened:** a year ago by petersen
● **Last Updated:** 2 months ago
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2024-03-28 16:51:27 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> I see the FESCO ticket got accepted
2024-03-28 16:51:50 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah...
2024-03-28 16:51:56 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> this change is actually in releng...
2024-03-28 16:52:11 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> or... is the assignment the only thing left? we have groups, etc?
2024-03-28 16:52:57 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> releng/scripts/fesco/sig-policy/sig_policy.py just needs to have this added to it. in releng repo.
2024-03-28 16:52:58 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> It seems that the groups are already in FAS
2024-03-28 16:53:20 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I can try and get to that, and/or someone could do a PR. ;)
2024-03-28 16:53:57 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> But we are probably missing the mailing list
2024-03-28 16:54:32 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I can look more closely later... or if someone else does, update the ticket?
2024-03-28 16:54:38 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> we are almost out of time now...
2024-03-28 16:54:45 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !topic open floor
2024-03-28 16:55:13 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> I see the haskell group in IPA, so it's there
2024-03-28 16:55:53 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> The time flies!
2024-03-28 16:56:31 <@leo:fedora.im> nothing much from me
2024-03-28 16:57:10 <@Zlopez:matrix.org> One announcement, there is a Easter Monday next week and plenty of folks will be unavailable
2024-03-28 16:57:33 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I have a ton of things I am going to try and get done today/tomorrow... hopefully we can be in good shape for freeze.
2024-03-28 16:57:49 <@leo:fedora.im> fingers crossed 
2024-03-28 16:58:30 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> alright. Thanks for coming everyone. Lets continue in regular channels... ;)
2024-03-28 16:58:36 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !endmeeting