2024-08-15 16:00:04 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !startmeeting Infrastructure (2024-08-15) 2024-08-15 16:00:09 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-08-15 16:00:04 UTC 2024-08-15 16:00:09 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'Infrastructure (2024-08-15)' 2024-08-15 16:00:13 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !meetingname infrastructure 2024-08-15 16:00:13 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !topic ahoy 2024-08-15 16:00:13 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info Fedora Infra documentation: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra 2024-08-15 16:00:13 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info About our team: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/ 2024-08-15 16:00:13 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info Agenda is at: https://board.net/p/fedora-infra 2024-08-15 16:00:13 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !chair nirik zlopez nb bodanel dtometzki jnsamyak lenkaseg patrikp 2024-08-15 16:00:13 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting Name is now infrastructure 2024-08-15 16:00:16 <@smilner:fedora.im> !hi 2024-08-15 16:00:16 <@zodbot:fedora.im> None (smilner) 2024-08-15 16:00:21 <@nphilipp:fedora.im> !hi 2024-08-15 16:00:22 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Nils Philippsen (nphilipp) - he / him / his 2024-08-15 16:00:40 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> morning everyone! 2024-08-15 16:00:44 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !hi 2024-08-15 16:00:46 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Samyak Jain (jnsamyak) - he / him / his 2024-08-15 16:01:22 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> lets wait a min or two for folks to wander in... 2024-08-15 16:01:24 <@james:fedora.im> !hi 2024-08-15 16:01:24 <@zodbot:fedora.im> James Antill (james) 2024-08-15 16:01:33 <@eabucay:fedora.im> !hi 2024-08-15 16:01:34 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Edward Fitz Abucay (eabucay) 2024-08-15 16:01:45 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> 🎶 🎵 2024-08-15 16:02:22 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> ok, first floor: 2024-08-15 16:02:23 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info Getting Started Guide: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra/gettingstarted/ 2024-08-15 16:02:23 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora Infrastructure can introduce themselves 2024-08-15 16:02:23 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !topic New folks introductions 2024-08-15 16:02:33 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> Any new folks like to introduce themselves? 2024-08-15 16:02:48 <@eabucay:fedora.im> yes 2024-08-15 16:03:08 <@eabucay:fedora.im> I’m quite excited about this opportunity to join the infra team to further solidify my skills and contribute to the community. 2024-08-15 16:03:08 <@eabucay:fedora.im> 2024-08-15 16:03:08 <@eabucay:fedora.im> My name is Edward. I’m a DevOps engineer and backend developer based in SG (sometimes in PH). I have been a software engineer for as long as I can remember since graduating from university. As I’m doing consultancy now, I find that I have a lot of spare time. 2024-08-15 16:03:08 <@eabucay:fedora.im> 2024-08-15 16:03:08 <@eabucay:fedora.im> I have experience working with various programming languages (e.g., Golang, Rust, TypeScript, Python) and have done SRE tasks like setting up CI/CD pipelines, infra design, scaling web apps, and optimizing and finding root causes of service problems. 2024-08-15 16:03:08 <@eabucay:fedora.im> 2024-08-15 16:03:08 <@eabucay:fedora.im> 2024-08-15 16:03:08 <@eabucay:fedora.im> You can reach out to me on Matrix at @eabucay:fedora.im. 2024-08-15 16:03:08 <@eabucay:fedora.im> 2024-08-15 16:03:08 <@eabucay:fedora.im> Rn, I've been reading/familiarizing the infra docs and setting up my own dev environment. 2024-08-15 16:03:08 <@eabucay:fedora.im> Hi team! 2024-08-15 16:03:38 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> Hey Edward Fitz Abucay! welcome! 2024-08-15 16:03:52 <@nphilipp:fedora.im> Welcome Edward! 2024-08-15 16:03:59 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> do feel free to ask questions/chime in on anything and happy have you... 2024-08-15 16:04:11 <@smilner:fedora.im> Good to have you here Edward Fitz Abucay! 👋 2024-08-15 16:04:15 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> are you more interested in app develpment? or operations? or both? 2024-08-15 16:05:31 <@eabucay:fedora.im> Aurelien asked me the same thing. I think I'll try to feel first what's good but leaning on app development 2024-08-15 16:05:48 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> Sure, sounds good. There's lots going on in both places... 2024-08-15 16:05:54 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> welcome again. 2024-08-15 16:05:57 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> Any other new folks? 2024-08-15 16:06:29 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> ok, none heard, doors closing and heading up to floor 2: 2024-08-15 16:06:31 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info chair 2024-08-29 - ? 2024-08-15 16:06:31 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !topic Next chair 2024-08-15 16:06:31 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info chair 2024-08-22 - ? 2024-08-15 16:06:31 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info magic eight ball says: 2024-08-15 16:06:47 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> Anyone interested in running the meeting the 22nd or 29th? 2024-08-15 16:08:45 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> 🦗s? 2024-08-15 16:09:27 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I mean, I guess I can next week again, but it's a good chance for someone else to get involved. ;) 2024-08-15 16:09:31 <@james:fedora.im> I could try one of those days if there's nobody else ... but I don't really want to run two meetings at once :-o 2024-08-15 16:09:55 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, you are in FPC at the same time, right? 2024-08-15 16:10:19 <@james:fedora.im> yeh 2024-08-15 16:10:54 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> ok. I'll just put myself for now, but if anyone else wants it, please let me know. ;) 2024-08-15 16:11:16 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info Remaining issues with new mailman3 deployment are being investigated 2024-08-15 16:11:16 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info Flock 2024 was last week 2024-08-15 16:11:16 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !topic announcements and information 2024-08-15 16:11:16 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info CPE Infra&Releng EU-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 0800 UTC in https://matrix.to/#/#meeting-3:fedoraproject.org 2024-08-15 16:11:16 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info CPE Infra&Releng NA-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1800 UTC in #fedora-meeting-3 2024-08-15 16:11:16 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info Fedora 41 branching is done 2024-08-15 16:11:28 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> any other announcements or info anyone would like to note? 2024-08-15 16:12:01 <@nphilipp:fedora.im> Not sure about announcement… 2024-08-15 16:12:17 <@nphilipp:fedora.im> Or if it’s necessary or to what extent 😁 2024-08-15 16:12:53 <@nphilipp:fedora.im> I’m about to switch the staging builders from the rpmautospec Koji to the mock plugin 2024-08-15 16:13:29 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> cool. Yeah, usually just a heads up on matrix in case someone else is depending on that working to test other things (rarely) 2024-08-15 16:13:53 <@nphilipp:fedora.im> If that works out, I want to flip the switch in prod, too. Any wider announcement necessary? 2024-08-15 16:14:04 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> There's some other koji changes actually that I need to try and get in next week... 2024-08-15 16:14:16 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> we could do them at the same time. 2024-08-15 16:14:42 <@nphilipp:fedora.im> Hmm if possible I would want to get that in earlier to fix https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/12126 2024-08-15 16:14:54 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> Basically some kiwi adjustments we need before beta. 2024-08-15 16:15:38 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> ah yeah. well, if all it takes is just a install of plugin, some config change and restarting kojid I think we can do that without too much notice. 2024-08-15 16:17:35 <@nphilipp:fedora.im> Run parts of the playbook which removes the koji plugin, installs the mock plugin (explicitly) and applies config changes, then restart kojid 2024-08-15 16:17:54 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> ( https://pagure.io/koji/pull-request/4157 and https://pagure.io/koji/pull-request/4156 are the kiwi koji patches) 2024-08-15 16:18:32 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> sure, I'd say just announce on matrix and make sure it looks ok in staging first. :) 2024-08-15 16:18:41 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I can do my patches next week 2024-08-15 16:18:54 <@nphilipp:fedora.im> Of course 🙂 2024-08-15 16:19:28 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> ok, moving along then... floor 3: 2024-08-15 16:19:33 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/day_to_day_fedora/ 2024-08-15 16:19:33 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Oncall 2024-08-15 16:19:33 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !topic Oncall 2024-08-15 16:19:33 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info ? is on call from 2024-08-22 to 2024-08-29 2024-08-15 16:19:33 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info ? is on call from 2024-08-15 to 2024-08-21 2024-08-15 16:19:48 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I can take the next oncall... anyone want the 22nd to 29th? 2024-08-15 16:20:25 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> if not, we can figure it next week 2024-08-15 16:20:43 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info no summary from last week, we were at flock and no one was oncall. ;) 2024-08-15 16:20:54 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !topic Monitoring discussion [nirik] 2024-08-15 16:20:54 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info Go over existing out items and fix 2024-08-15 16:20:54 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info https://nagios.fedoraproject.org/nagios 2024-08-15 16:21:15 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> nothing much new here. 2024-08-15 16:21:46 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> a few down machines we need onsite folks for, planet messages (that phsmoura is going to work on) 2024-08-15 16:22:14 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> oh, and bugzilla messages not coming through. :( No errors on our side tho, so I think it might be something with the internal bus... 2024-08-15 16:22:26 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> Zlopez was going to look more into that. 2024-08-15 16:23:07 <@phsmoura:fedora.im> yep.. adding new files and changing somethings in ansible repo to add fedora messaging to it 2024-08-15 16:24:03 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> ok, doors closing, moving to floor 5! 2024-08-15 16:24:17 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> Lets check in on our fun rhel7 retirements... 2024-08-15 16:24:19 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !ticket https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11815 2024-08-15 16:24:19 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info Check the progress on tickets related to RHEL7 EOL (end of June) 2024-08-15 16:24:19 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !topic RHEL7 EOL 2024-08-15 16:24:29 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> Just a small number of things left. 2024-08-15 16:24:54 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info need to get bugzilla component sync working without pdc ( jednorozec has a pr for this) 2024-08-15 16:25:10 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I guess we could close the PDC ticket now? or wait for that? 2024-08-15 16:25:44 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> Then, there is just github2fedmsg... I am not sure the status there. I know Akashdeep Dhar was re-writing it... 2024-08-15 16:25:52 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> then we can retire fedmsg entirely 2024-08-15 16:25:55 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> then we are done 2024-08-15 16:27:27 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> What do folks think on the pdc ticket? pdc is gone, but that bugzilla sync thing is related because it has to adjust for pdc being gone... 2024-08-15 16:27:45 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I guess there's another ticket on it not working yet, so we could just close the pdc one and track in that one 2024-08-15 16:28:04 <@nphilipp:fedora.im> +1 2024-08-15 16:28:11 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !ticket 12127 2024-08-15 16:28:12 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** 2 days ago by michich 2024-08-15 16:28:12 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **fedora-infrastructure #12127** (https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/12127):**missing Bugzilla component for a new package** 2024-08-15 16:28:12 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned 2024-08-15 16:28:12 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** a day ago 2024-08-15 16:28:12 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 2024-08-15 16:28:55 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !ticket 11820 2024-08-15 16:28:56 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** 5 months ago by zlopez 2024-08-15 16:28:56 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** humaton 2024-08-15 16:28:56 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **fedora-infrastructure #11820** (https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11820):**rhel7 - PDC** 2024-08-15 16:28:56 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 2024-08-15 16:28:56 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** 19 hours ago 2024-08-15 16:30:27 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> ok, so I will close the pdc one then. 2024-08-15 16:30:49 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> if anyone could help out with https://pagure.io/fedora-infra/toddlers/pull-request/238 that would be great. 2024-08-15 16:32:23 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I think thats it for rhel7 staus. :) 2024-08-15 16:32:25 <@amedvede:fedora.im> I saw the comment on this ticket, i will take a look 2024-08-15 16:32:35 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> thanks Anton Medvedev! 2024-08-15 16:33:28 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> What would folks like to do now? 1) just end early and get 30min back, 2) look at old tickets, 3) talk about something else (provide topic). 2024-08-15 16:33:50 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I guess I could have split those and people could vote with emojis 2024-08-15 16:33:56 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> end early 2024-08-15 16:33:59 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> look at old tickets 2024-08-15 16:34:04 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> other topic 2024-08-15 16:36:35 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> sorry, someone at the door here. 2024-08-15 16:36:42 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> ok, lets do old tickets! 2024-08-15 16:36:56 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !topic Revisit blocked tickets 2024-08-15 16:36:56 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !link https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues?status=Open&tags=blocked&priority=0&close_status= 2024-08-15 16:36:56 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info Check if any blocked ticket is unblocked 2024-08-15 16:37:36 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> everything there is still pretty blocked... 2024-08-15 16:37:48 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !link https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues?status=Open&order_key=last_updated&order=asc 2024-08-15 16:37:48 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !topic Fedora Infra backlog refinement 2024-08-15 16:37:48 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !info Refine oldest tickets on Fedora Infra tracker 2024-08-15 16:38:20 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !ticket 7361 2024-08-15 16:38:21 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** 5 years ago by pbrobinson 2024-08-15 16:38:21 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 2024-08-15 16:38:21 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **fedora-infrastructure #7361** (https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/7361):**Signing infrastructure for aarch64** 2024-08-15 16:38:21 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** a year ago 2024-08-15 16:38:21 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned 2024-08-15 16:38:33 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> so, this is ancient and... there's some movement on it. 2024-08-15 16:38:54 <@smilner:fedora.im> Is this something we truly need given it's been ongoing for 5 years? 2024-08-15 16:38:57 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> we now have sigul that can do this signing, but we need to integrate it into the build process/setup 2024-08-15 16:39:09 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yep. It's just been really hard. 2024-08-15 16:39:49 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I talked with some folks at flock and we need to figure out a plan for this last bit... I am supposed to send out an email/update ticket with it. 2024-08-15 16:40:11 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I guess ticket might be better 2024-08-15 16:40:15 <@smilner:fedora.im> Makes sense 👍️ 2024-08-15 16:40:40 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I guess this was on the blocked list too... but hopefully we can fix it someday 2024-08-15 16:40:55 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !ticket 10241 2024-08-15 16:40:56 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** 8 months ago 2024-08-15 16:40:56 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **fedora-infrastructure #10241** (https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/10241):**Port apps to OIDC** 2024-08-15 16:40:56 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 2024-08-15 16:40:56 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** 2 years ago by zlopez 2024-08-15 16:40:56 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned 2024-08-15 16:41:17 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> this is stalled on ipsilon, but we want to move to keycloak anyhow... so it's blocked on that. 2024-08-15 16:41:33 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I think Aurélien B was going to setup a staging keycloak, but hasn't had time yet. 2024-08-15 16:41:39 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> so a bit of progress on that at least 2024-08-15 16:41:43 <@smilner:fedora.im> Do we tend to reuse tickets when they go stale like this or do we like to close them in favor of a new one with new info? 2024-08-15 16:42:01 <@james:fedora.im> For 7361 ... are we signing manually ... and is centos also signing aarch64 manually? 2024-08-15 16:42:34 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> Steve: we tend to just keep things open... but we could look at a new workflow if it works better. 2024-08-15 16:42:59 <@smilner:fedora.im> I'm fine with whatever works. Just curious :-) 2024-08-15 16:43:05 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> James Antill: nope, we are not signing aarch64 kernels/etc at all. I am not sure what centos is doing, but their signing infra is completely different too. 2024-08-15 16:43:36 <@james:fedora.im> Ahh, fair enough ... for some reason I thought with the move to stream signing was pretty close to Fedora. 2024-08-15 16:43:51 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> it's not something you can do manually easily... you need to sign the vmlinuz/etc at build time before the rpm is written. ;( 2024-08-15 16:44:48 <@nphilipp:fedora.im> As someone who has absolutely no idea: the signature needs to be in the RPM, as a file? 2024-08-15 16:45:01 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !ticket 10458 2024-08-15 16:45:02 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** 2 years ago by mattdm 2024-08-15 16:45:02 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned 2024-08-15 16:45:02 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **fedora-infrastructure #10458** (https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/10458):**Help me move my discourse bots to production?** 2024-08-15 16:45:02 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 2024-08-15 16:45:02 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** 8 months ago 2024-08-15 16:45:54 <@smilner:fedora.im> Looks like it's waiting on Matthew's availability 2024-08-15 16:46:00 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> nils: yeah, this is for secure boot, so the thing that runs when booting has to be signed with the valid cert 2024-08-15 16:46:31 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, and it has been for a while. ;( Perhaps someone would be willing to more actively take this on and get info from him? 2024-08-15 16:46:41 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> or we could keep waiting? 2024-08-15 16:48:05 <@smilner:fedora.im> I'd suggest asking for volunteers and if there aren't any maybe it's time to close it and let it be recreated in the future IF it's still helpful work. 2024-08-15 16:48:05 <@james:fedora.im> It's been 5 years, what's one more ?;) 2024-08-15 16:48:45 <@nphilipp:fedora.im> nirik: Apropos, not having any bkernel-*.stg makes not getting things wrong hard 😉 2024-08-15 16:48:53 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> ok. I have peroidic meetings with him, can bring it up there too. 2024-08-15 16:49:49 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> nils: oh yeah, but we could now I guess... as the reason we didn't was that bkernel01/02 are hardware with smartcards in them, but under the new setup we will be using sigul, so no smart card needed... so it should be possible to setup a test env in staging I think... 2024-08-15 16:50:50 <@nphilipp:fedora.im> nirik: heh, as it is I guess I just have to check after applying the changes 😁 2024-08-15 16:51:26 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !ticket 10372 2024-08-15 16:51:26 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** 2 years ago by ryanlerch 2024-08-15 16:51:26 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **fedora-infrastructure #10372** (https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/10372):**[proposal] Move Pagure (pagure.io and src.fp.o) to use OIDC for web login** 2024-08-15 16:51:26 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 2024-08-15 16:51:26 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** 8 months ago 2024-08-15 16:51:26 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned 2024-08-15 16:51:44 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> this was related to the ipsilon/keycloak thing... 2024-08-15 16:52:02 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> no, wait... this was due to the pagure rhel8 being too old? 2024-08-15 16:52:37 <@smilner:fedora.im> Is it worth doing given the work to move to a new gitforge? 2024-08-15 16:52:41 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> ah yeah, rhel8 too old. 2024-08-15 16:52:54 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I suspect not. 2024-08-15 16:53:42 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> Tied up in this is that keycloak doesn't support openid (which pagure uses now). So, we can't move to keycloak until pagure is moved / no longer there. 2024-08-15 16:54:03 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> However! I talked to ab at flock and he was willing to ask keycloak maintainers if they could somehow support openid for us. 2024-08-15 16:54:31 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> so many moving parts. ;) 2024-08-15 16:54:48 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> So, perhaps we just decide to close this one? 2024-08-15 16:55:12 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> If a rhel9 pagure becomes available we could revisit... 2024-08-15 16:55:57 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> Lets move to the roof! Open floor. ;) 2024-08-15 16:56:00 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !topic Open Floor 2024-08-15 16:58:03 <@amedvede:fedora.im> Recently saw how the guy used fish instead of bash with plugin that allows to run bash scripts, is there any benefit of using fish and do someone use it? 2024-08-15 16:58:36 <@amedvede:fedora.im> just curious to try it myself 2024-08-15 16:58:37 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I played around with fish a long time ago... it's pretty different, but some folks really like it. 2024-08-15 16:58:48 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> (but things might have changed since then) 2024-08-15 16:59:00 <@james:fedora.im> I used it for a bit, years ago. It's v. different from bash or zsh, etc. 2024-08-15 16:59:43 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I do know it sometimes breaks things if it's your default shell... since so much stuff assumes bash/zsh/sh for scripts 2024-08-15 17:01:15 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> ok, we are out of time now... thanks so much for coming everyone! 2024-08-15 17:01:28 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !endmeeting