#meeting-3:fedoraproject.org log

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:00:06

!startmeeting Infrastructure (2025-08-28)

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

17:00:07

Meeting started at 2025-08-28 17:00:06 UTC

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

17:00:07

The Meeting name is 'Infrastructure (2025-08-28)'

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:00:12

!meetingname infrastructure

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:00:12

!chair @nirik:matrix.scrye.com @zlopez:matrix.org @nb:fedora.im bodanel @dtometzki:fedora.im @jnsamyak:matrix.org @lenkaseg:fedora.im @patrikp:matrix.org @james:fedora.im

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:00:12

!info Agenda is at: https://board.net/p/fedora-infra

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:00:12

!info About our team: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cle/

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:00:12

!info Fedora Infra documentation: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:00:12

!topic Hola y bienvenido

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

17:00:13

The Meeting Name is now infrastructure

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:00:29

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:00:30

Vít Smolík (smoliicek) - he / him / his

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

17:00:54

morning

<@humaton:fedora.im>

17:01:02

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:01:14

we will wait a few before everyone joins :)

<@nyagah:matrix.org>

17:01:21

👋

<@james:fedora.im>

17:02:27

Hey

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:02:49

!info This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora Infrastructure can introduce themselves

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:02:49

!topic New folks introductions

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:02:49

!info Getting Started Guide: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra/gettingstarted/

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:02:59

any new folks here?

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:04:31

i guess not

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:04:53

!topic Next chair

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:04:53

!info magic eight ball says:

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:04:53

!info chair 2025-08-28 - Vit Smolik

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:04:53

!info chair 2025-09-04 - nirik

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:05:23

we have a chair for next week, so if nobody wants to take the next one after, we can continue

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:09:49

well, next meeting

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:10:04

!info on call from 2025-08-22 to 2025-08-28 - Vit Smolik

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:10:04

!info on call from 2025-08-15 to 2025-08-21 - None

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:10:04

!info on call from 2025-08-29 to 2025-09-04 - nirik

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:10:04

!topic Oncall

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:10:04

!info https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra/day_to_day_fedora/#_the_oncall_role_in_our_team

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:10:23

we again have the next weeks on call, so im sending this just for consistency

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:11:12

if somebody would switch the oncall in the bot, it would be great

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

17:11:36

I just did

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

17:11:38

!oncall

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:11:39

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:11:39

If they do not respond, please file a ticket (https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues)

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:11:39

● @nirik:matrix.scrye.com (kevin) Current Time for them: 10:11 (US/Pacific)

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:11:39

The following people are oncall:

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:13:17

thanks

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:13:24

!info Summary of last week: (from current oncall)

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:13:43

i was oncall, no oncall pings

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:15:07

!info DC move is over, still a bit more cleanup and bringing up shipped machines left

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:15:07

!info mass branching finished

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:15:07

!info CLE Infra&Releng NA-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1900 UTC in https://matrix.to/#/#meeting-3:fedoraproject.org

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:15:07

!info CLE Infra&Releng EU-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 0815 UTC in https://matrix.to/#/#meeting-3:fedoraproject.org

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:15:07

!topic announcements and information

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:15:07

!info infra. freeze started

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:15:37

any other announcements?

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

17:16:34

my client seems to be lagging. Oh well...

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:17:27

!info Go over existing items and fix them

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:17:27

!topic Monitoring discussion [nirik]

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:17:27

!info https://nagios.fedoraproject.org/nagios

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

17:17:57

all known stuff.

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:18:17

@nirik do we do backlog refinement? or just go right to open floor now?

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

17:18:17

nothing thats major... all minor stuff...

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

17:18:37

Gwmngilfen has been doing a lot of work on zabbix recently tho, so perhaps we switch to it soonish. ;)

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

17:18:58

Vit Smolik: well, we usually try and decide... but not many people here today.

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:19:02

that would be good (i actually know how to use zabbix too)

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

17:19:24

it's already all up at https://zabbix.fedoraproject.org (and zabbix.stg.)

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:19:31

so open floor now?

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

17:19:36

So, probibly today we can just go to open floor?

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:19:37

ill check it out

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:19:44

!topic Open Floor

<@humaton:fedora.im>

17:20:15

I have one thing, surprise surprise its about forge migration

<@humaton:fedora.im>

17:20:55

My idea is to start migrating our openshift app sources first. Updating ansible in pagure and redeploy. WDYT?

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

17:20:59

whats that? never heard of it.

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

17:21:08

😀

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

17:21:39

If we have a org structure we like, sure... but please not during freeze.

<@humaton:fedora.im>

17:22:08

In between freezes?

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

17:22:25

also... we need to look at moving the infra ansible one. We need to hook it up to sync to batcave, etc.

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

17:22:29

sure.

<@humaton:fedora.im>

17:22:32

Because there is clear rollback path. Just revert commits in ansible and redeploy.

<@humaton:fedora.im>

17:23:00

Yeah, I want to do that as the last one.

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

17:23:21

sure, and for some things I guess it would be ok to do even during freeze. But I'd really avoid things like resultsdb/etc that are in the critical path

<@humaton:fedora.im>

17:23:29

Since there is all the infra definition there. We can move it first or last. I prefer last because its the whole infra definition...

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

17:23:57

sure, but it also only affects us... and we have a copy of the git repo...

<@humaton:fedora.im>

17:24:14

Sure I will put together list of the apps in order of the least impact to critical

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

17:24:33

a list sounds great to me.

<@humaton:fedora.im>

17:24:40

hmm, should we do it first then?

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

17:24:55

somehow I was thinking it should be first, but I guess it doesn't matter

<@humaton:fedora.im>

17:25:03

It will give us nice feel of the PR workflow there because there will be a bunch of updates to the repo.

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

17:25:12

yeah, pretty active

<@humaton:fedora.im>

17:27:00

SO just that I am not forgetting something, we will need to update the docs, README's in pagure.io, Make a post to discussions. And the actual changes in code-base's

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

17:27:28

is forge.fp.o emitting fedora-messaging messages yet?

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

17:27:49

yeah, sounds about right. and the actual migrating

<@humaton:fedora.im>

17:27:49

hum there was some testing on stg

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

17:28:15

we need that for ansible repo... oh and...

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

17:28:54

did we decide anything about CI? ansible we use zuul currently... and some of the other apps do too... would be good to have some story there.

<@humaton:fedora.im>

17:29:56

so we can specify webhook2fedmsg per repo, not sure if we made it default configuration for new repositories

<@humaton:fedora.im>

17:30:06

about CI

<@humaton:fedora.im>

17:31:10

I dont want us to run anything resembling CI.

<@humaton:fedora.im>

17:31:27

There are some voices asking for it but I think we should not do that.

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

17:32:37

well, we need some story for ci... lots of projects use things on pagure.

<@humaton:fedora.im>

17:32:39

Always ready rhel might have some future plans because they are the people running 3 CI systems currently

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

17:32:50

well, I think zuul is going away

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

17:32:55

but other than that I am not sure.

<@humaton:fedora.im>

17:33:05

Well they can keep using Zuul through Forgejo actions

<@humaton:fedora.im>

17:33:16

but yeah zull is going away

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

17:33:28

ah, that will work? we should come up with some migration doc then if it will for now

<@humaton:fedora.im>

17:33:55

ok I will pick non critical app that uses zull and do the example migration

<@humaton:fedora.im>

17:34:14

try to do some docs of it. But yeah it is technically possible.

<@humaton:fedora.im>

17:34:34

Thanks for input, I have my action items.

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

17:35:44

good to discuss. Getting excited for the migration!

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:38:56

anyone anything else?

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

17:40:57

nothing much here.

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:41:37

okay, thanks everyone for comming, see you at the standup and next week :)

<@smoliicek:fedora.im>

17:41:41

!endmeeting