16:31:47 <nirik> #startmeeting IRC Support SIG (2010-02-04)
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16:31:47 <nirik> #meetingname irc-support-sig
16:31:47 <nirik> #topic init process
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16:32:14 <nirik> who all is around for meeting?
16:32:19 * thomasj 
16:32:24 * Southern_Gentlem 
16:32:24 <mock> .fasinfo mock
16:32:28 <mock> oh
16:32:31 * mock 
16:32:31 <zodbot> mock: User: mock, Name: mark mcintyre, email: mark@mockgeek.com, Creation: 2008-07-25, IRC Nick: mock, Timezone: US/Eastern, Locale: en, Extension: 5111336, GPG key ID: , Status: active
16:32:36 <zodbot> mock: Unapproved Groups: fedorabugs
16:32:40 <zodbot> mock: Approved Groups: ambassadors cla_fedora cla_done
16:32:44 <mock> sorry
16:32:54 <nirik> no worries. ;)
16:34:10 <Southern_Gentlem> nirik,  since there is a board public meeting lets move quickly if possible
16:34:17 * hiemanshu is here
16:34:21 <nirik> Southern_Gentlem: oh yeah.
16:34:37 <nirik> #topic Registration / #fedora-unregistered
16:34:47 <nirik> so, freenode has switched over to their new ircd.
16:34:55 <nirik> we have seen less spam/floods.
16:35:14 <DiscordianUK> That's true
16:35:17 <nirik> Do we have any desire to change the current setup with unregistered users going to #fedora-unregistered?
16:35:27 <thomasj> #freenode is still getting a lot of spam
16:35:35 <Southern_Gentlem> i think we should out this off till next week
16:35:44 <Southern_Gentlem> put
16:35:45 <thomasj> nick-spam that is
16:35:55 <nirik> thomasj: we got a flooder in #fedora-unregistered the other night as well.
16:36:01 <thomasj> eeww
16:36:19 <nirik> about 150 nicks joined from the same ip and spewed. Luckily it was the same ip, so easy to ban them.
16:36:39 <Southern_Gentlem> as this point i think we give freenode time to get their bot controls in place and tested before opening #fedora
16:36:45 <nirik> Southern_Gentlem: we could put it out another week if folks want.
16:36:49 * thomasj thinks our setup is fine for now.
16:37:00 * hiemanshu agrees to thomasj
16:37:13 * nirik doesn't currently see any reason to change the current setup. We may need/want to run it by the board to see if they are on board (har har) with the current setup.
16:37:32 <thomasj> lol
16:37:48 <DiscordianUK> I'm for letting it stay the same
16:37:53 <mock> +1 nirik's pun
16:38:08 <nirik> but we could push out another week too. Thats fine.
16:38:09 <Southern_Gentlem> nirik,  thats up to you but at this point it is just info that we feel that it the best interests of the channel to remain +r for now
16:38:13 * hiemanshu wonders why this channel is not +C
16:38:17 <DiscordianUK> It's still very early days on this ircd
16:38:29 <Southern_Gentlem> hiemanshu,  too many people use it
16:38:38 <nirik> hiemanshu: this channel? I thought I set it already... I can after the meeting if it's not.
16:38:49 <hiemanshu> Southern_Gentlem: isnt +C to prevent CTCP stuff
16:38:57 <nirik> ok, lets just defer to next week on this issue.
16:39:02 <nirik> #topic weekly stats
16:39:10 <nirik> http://fedora.theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html
16:39:14 <nirik> very quiet week.
16:39:27 * hiemanshu hasnt been online this whole week
16:40:09 <nirik> in general we have had less difficult users and the channel has been more pleasent (IMHO)
16:40:39 <DiscordianUK> Except for littlegreen
16:40:56 <nirik> DiscordianUK: tsk. Please don't single out people. ;)
16:41:05 <DiscordianUK> Apologies
16:41:16 <nirik> anything that anyone wants to bring up about the last weeks stats?
16:41:47 * thomasj is impressed, he didn't made it on thel ist at all.. shame on him
16:41:52 <Southern_Gentlem> he gets to edit the log
16:42:15 <Southern_Gentlem> next
16:42:22 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
16:42:27 <thomasj> I was busy with packaging last week. That's my excuse. Sorry.
16:42:28 <nirik> anything for open floor?
16:42:41 <nirik> thomasj: the channel was very quiet overall...
16:43:14 <Southern_Gentlem> 300 is easier to help than 300 + idiots
16:44:52 <nirik> ok, if nothing for open floor I'll close out the meeting in a few...
16:44:52 <Sonar_Guy> nirik: there has been a lot of join/part spamming in #fedora-unregistered also
16:45:19 <nirik> Sonar_Guy: well, yeah... might be related to people trying to fix their clients to register too tho.
16:45:21 <Southern_Gentlem> Sonar_Guy,  but that is mostly misconfig clients
16:45:37 <Sonar_Guy> Maybe
16:45:51 <mock> is #fedora-unregisterd monitored/cared about?
16:45:54 <thomasj> Sonar_Guy, what do you think might be the reason?
16:46:04 <nirik> I am still puzzled how many people can be in there and not fix/register.
16:46:20 <nirik> mock: yes. Many of the #fedora regular helpers are there to help people register.
16:46:21 <Roobarb-Work> Perhapse they are not real people?
16:46:22 <Sonar_Guy> You never know, some happen so rapidly and for so long one wonders
16:46:32 <thomasj> I think a lot of people do hang out in unreg as well as being in #fedora.
16:46:36 <mock> nirik: if they are n00bs, they might not realize they are not in -unreg
16:47:16 <nirik> mock: there is: a) a welcome message when they join explaining they need to register. b) a topic that says they are in unregistered and need to register and c) fedbot spews a notice every 10min about needing to register. ;)
16:47:34 <mock> oh, ok
16:47:42 <Sonar_Guy> mock:  and I pick on them often lol
16:47:48 * mock doesn't hang out in there
16:47:56 <mock> Sonar_Guy +1
16:48:04 <nirik> I have so far only seen one person who was unwilling to register...
16:48:20 <Sonar_Guy> lol I have seen quite a few
16:48:43 <Sonar_Guy> but hey that is the beauty of fedora they are free to make that choice ;)
16:48:55 <nirik> Sonar_Guy: well, one that specifically said: "no I won't register" and left.
16:49:48 <nirik> anyhow, anything else?
16:49:49 <Sonar_Guy> nirik: I look at it this way, If they do not want to register they must not need help that bad.
16:50:26 <mock> Sonar_Guy: or they might prove to be difficult in the long run
16:51:27 * nirik notes there is a Fedora Board Public irc meeting in about 11 minutes... over in #fedora-board-questions / #fedora-board-public. Folks should try and attend and ask the board questions. ;)
16:51:51 <nirik> Sonar_Guy: indeed. mailing lists and forums need registering too...
16:52:23 <nirik> ok, thanks for coming everyone!
16:52:39 <mock> thanks for throwing the meeting, nirik
16:52:42 <nirik> #endmeeting