16:00:02 <nirik> #startmeeting IRC Support SIG (2010-05-06)
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16:00:02 <nirik> #meetingname irc-support-sig
16:00:02 <nirik> #topic init process
16:00:02 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'irc-support-sig'
16:00:15 <nirik> who all is around for a quick irc support sig meeting?
16:00:33 <fenris02> 
16:00:50 <mock> .o/
16:01:02 * EvilBob 
16:01:41 * Southern_Gentlem in and out
16:02:51 <EvilBob> if you are looking for the board meeting you are in the wrong place
16:03:05 <EvilBob> If you are interested in the board meeting the channels are #fedora-board-questions and #fedora-board-meeting
16:04:08 <nirik> ok, I don't have much today, so lets go quickly so everyone can go ask tough questions of the board.
16:05:15 <EvilBob> Quiet weeK?
16:05:26 <EvilBob> Good reason for a quiet meeting
16:05:27 <nirik> #topic week in review
16:05:42 <nirik> Yeah, pretty quiet week. I wasn't around as much as I normally am
16:05:51 <nirik> http://fedora.theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html
16:06:01 <EvilBob> Your absence was noted
16:06:14 <nirik> I hope it won't go down on my perm record. ;)
16:06:48 <nirik> Anyone have anything they would like to note from the previous week?
16:07:14 <EvilBob> Messages sent by the bot
16:07:28 <EvilBob> using the @say method
16:08:00 <nirik> yeah... I think thats ok to remind people about meetings and events...
16:08:04 <EvilBob> I think we need to establish a policy or SOP when using this command
16:09:00 <EvilBob> it has been used in the past as a way for an op to hide behind the bot allowing only the op and the bot admin to know who sent the message
16:09:40 <nirik> agreed. It would be better to setup a different command that always noted who was sending it, or otherwise do it in a way everyone knows who sent it.
16:09:48 <EvilBob> using it in a public way such as sending it from the -ops channel allows for greater peer review of it's use
16:09:59 <fenris02> in-channel sounds ideal, but having 4 people use it for various channels at the same time is a bit cumbersome.  there should be a way to send the same message to multiple channels with relative ease
16:10:50 <Southern_Gentlem> and in -ops we all have a log of what is being sent to the channel in one place and who did it
16:10:54 <nirik> yeah, I think we need a new plugin ideally.
16:10:57 <EvilBob> fenris02: patches/lessons welcome
16:11:15 <fenris02> EvilBob, it's py ... i'm out.  use some other lang ... i can do like 30 or so ...
16:11:19 <nirik> How about 'always use the ops channel for now' and I can look into a new plugin.
16:11:49 <EvilBob> nirik: Works for me
16:11:59 <nirik> any objections?
16:12:04 <fenris02> wfm
16:12:18 <Southern_Gentlem> +1
16:12:44 * mock thinks it's good idea, even though he never uses it
16:13:24 * daMaestro lurks
16:13:44 <EvilBob> mock: however, if someone made the bot say something to you, with this policy in place you could ask any number of us who the sender was.
16:14:08 <nirik> #topic F13
16:14:27 <nirik> So, f13 is coming up fast. More folks showing up running beta+updates, etc.
16:14:34 <mock> \o/
16:14:42 <nirik> I would like to propose we do a release party in #fedora-social again...
16:14:49 <mock> \o/
16:14:50 <fenris02> using @announce would almost work
16:15:10 <nirik> so, point people who just want to party on the release there...
16:15:43 <fenris02> good times to be had :)
16:15:52 <Khaytsus> nirik:  ie:  The nonsense about how cool the new shade of blue is can go to -social and the real upgrade/install issues can be resolved in the main channel?
16:16:07 <nirik> right.
16:16:11 <mock> it is a cool color blue
16:16:26 <nirik> so, if folks want to blog or start playing up release party in social that would be great.
16:16:49 * mock puts "lotsa bacon" on his party grocery list
16:17:38 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
16:17:43 <nirik> Anything for open floor?
16:18:12 <nirik> Oh, I'll note that I am doing a classroom session on f13 features at 10 May, 2010 at 01:00 UTC.
16:18:22 <daMaestro> This might have been covered, but are we going registered only for the release?
16:19:19 <fenris02> it's currently that way, is there a need to change it before the release?
16:19:40 <daMaestro> Yeah, I see we are currently +r, but just wondering what the plan is for the release.
16:20:06 <daMaestro> I'd like to not ban new users and rather just be zero tolerance towards anyone not using #fedora correctly.
16:20:12 <fenris02> the troll count has been significantly lower with +r ...
16:20:25 <EvilBob> the noise level is a lot better
16:20:26 <nirik> daMaestro: last we revisted it, we decided to leave it as is...
16:20:40 <nirik> I would say we could use more people paying attention to #fedora-unregistered.
16:20:50 <nirik> help people register, point to social for release party, etc.
16:20:50 <EvilBob> IMO we should leave it as it is, the -unregistered channel is working well
16:20:56 <daMaestro> Okay, sounds good. Yes we will want to have some people in #fedora-unregistered
16:21:02 <fenris02> registering is trivial and takes a minute.  but that seems to be sufficient to keep a large portion of spammers out
16:21:20 <daMaestro> Do we also have +o or otherwise in there?
16:21:24 <EvilBob> 113 of us in there right now
16:21:34 * nirik pays attention to it as time permits, but it's almost always trolls and spammers active.
16:21:48 <nirik> daMaestro: yep. Should be the same list as #fedora, if not, let me know and I can fix it.
16:22:10 <daMaestro> nirik, K. I don't have access but I do see some of you guys do.
16:22:17 <nirik> daMaestro: I can add you if you like.
16:22:20 <EvilBob> I also have super bot powers in there also
16:22:32 <daMaestro> If we have a bot in there that I can use to boot, that is fine.
16:23:21 <nirik> yeah, fedbot is there.
16:23:29 <daMaestro> K, sounds good.
16:23:37 <EvilBob> the only time we have to boot fromt here is when someone has network issues 99% of the time
16:23:48 <nirik> ok, anything else? or shall we all go harrass the Board?
16:23:49 <EvilBob> part/join flooding
16:24:12 * mock grabs his pitchfork...
16:25:08 <nirik> ok, thanks for coming everyone.
16:25:09 <EvilBob> I have a request
16:25:13 <nirik> #endmeeting