05:10:35 #startmeeting i18n 05:10:35 Meeting started Thu May 27 05:10:35 2010 UTC. The chair is juhp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 05:10:35 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 05:10:49 welcome to the weekly i18n meeting 05:11:18 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2010-05-27 is the agenda page 05:13:20 hi 05:13:36 hi paragan 05:14:42 hi 05:14:48 hi epico_laptop 05:15:49 hi 05:16:09 hi 05:16:20 hi kaio dychen_ jni_ 05:16:33 hi 05:16:41 hi dueno 05:16:53 hi 05:19:31 alright we better get started thanks 05:21:14 #topic project updates 05:21:32 anyone would to share any news on their projects 05:22:04 ibus-table-* becomes ibus-table-chinese and ibus-table-others 05:22:26 kaio: is that new? :) 05:22:36 the former SRPM is about 7.5MB RPM is 27MB 05:22:39 juhp⚙ that is new 05:22:53 since last week? :) 05:23:09 ok 05:23:23 kaio: can you say more? 05:25:06 sorry no.. :P 05:26:26 there are some interesting discussions going on about gnome3 and input 05:26:47 mccann has some design pages and earlier mockups 05:26:48 aha 05:27:01 http://live.gnome.org/Design/SystemSettings/RegionAndLanguage 05:27:07 http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design/Guidelines/SystemStatus/InputLanguage 05:27:30 I just mention them here for those who might be interested in following the discussion 05:27:56 also http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design/Whiteboards/ScreenKeyboard for virtual kbd :) 05:28:51 I might ask phuang_ on ibus news but think he might be afk 05:29:08 paragan: I think you are packaging some google webfonts? 05:29:34 anything else? 05:29:49 yes I have packaged 4 fonts and dueno helped to review them 05:29:55 cool 05:29:57 packaging few more this week :) 05:30:04 ok :) 05:30:13 paragan: looking good? 05:30:25 yes 05:31:16 #topic f13 05:31:23 so f13 was released.... 05:31:42 I think overall it is looking pretty good release 05:32:08 though I got one bad-ish bug about gettext multilib which I will try to address asap 05:32:38 oh! 05:33:18 base package is no longer multilib... 05:33:33 which may break upgrades :( 05:33:51 perhaps I should try a test upgrade too... 05:34:58 ok 05:35:08 aha 05:35:52 I think soon we need to check devel branch and make sure F-13 modifications are also applied to devel branch 05:36:17 mm yeah 05:36:31 I hope so for most packages 05:36:38 if we are following best practice 05:37:01 we should always make changes if necessary in devel and then backport... 05:37:10 but good point 05:38:23 yes 05:38:49 also good to move featurefuture type bugs to rawhide 05:45:44 ok just looking at a few bugs... 05:47:21 .bug 487061 05:47:23 juhp: Bug 487061 Japanese fonts changed to less readable after update - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487061 05:47:36 tagoh3: wonder if it should move to rawhide? 05:48:01 sure 05:51:04 tagoh3: or change component? 05:51:19 otherwise wontfix? 05:51:46 hmm, to what component? 05:51:57 dunno vte? 05:52:06 didn't read carefully... 05:52:23 sounds like it can't be fixed in font? 05:52:56 not yet triaged well due to vague specification. 05:52:57 perhaps 05:53:44 ok 05:53:47 hm 05:55:21 #topic other bugs 05:55:55 SC/TC fonts improvements is landing on Fedora 13 in progress. 05:55:58 82 rawhide bugs 05:56:06 epico_laptop: cool 05:56:12 :) 05:56:25 so zh-cn and zh-tw etc works now? :) 05:56:51 I checked gnome/firefox is ok. fc-match still have some problems. 05:57:01 I see 05:58:02 epico_laptop: in which case? 05:58:30 fc-match sans:lang=?? and fc-match sans:lang=zh-??. 05:58:47 ? 05:59:09 fc-match sans:lang=zh and fc-match sans:lang=zh-cn is different. 05:59:43 is there output in the bug report? 05:59:54 but fc-match sans:lang=zh-cn and fc-match sans:lang=zh-cn is the same. 06:00:11 ? 06:00:14 epico_laptop: well, since there are no zh.orth but zh_*.orth, what font are you expecting to see with it? 06:00:30 not yet. 06:00:39 ok 06:00:56 zh-cn/zh-sg will be wqy-zenhei, zh-tw/zh-hk will be uming. 06:01:06 and zh? 06:02:13 maybe same as zh-cn as wqy-zenhei, but TC users may prefer uming. 06:02:37 so you can add zh after zh-cn then. 06:02:47 ok. 06:03:53 what about zh-cn and zh-tw? 06:04:12 any problems? 06:04:19 36 NEW rawhide bugs 06:04:41 the two should return UMing for zh-tw, and WQY Zen Hei for zh-cn. 06:05:07 they don't? :) 06:05:36 yes, fc-match returns the same, but gnome apps use right fonts from lsof log. 06:06:16 what the font does it match with them? 06:06:54 both uming.ttc. 06:07:14 with the config file on your people space? 06:07:34 yes. 06:08:16 okay, let me have a look later 06:08:23 thanks very much. 06:08:55 I see no reviewer yet for ibus-handwrite btw 06:09:11 if someone could help to review that would be good 06:09:32 we're over time so probably should stop soon... 06:10:37 #topic f11 bugs closing 06:11:07 guess there is still time since f13 was just released? 06:12:09 #topic Upstream_Release_Monitoring 06:12:26 mentioned it briefly last time 06:13:08 if you have a project that releases regularly but you don't track upstream announcements frequently it would be good to add to the wikipage 06:14:10 with the right url regexp it will automatically detect new upstream releases and automatically file a bug for your package when a newer release than in rawhide appears 06:14:57 obvious if you are upstream or upstream is no longer active or is stable then probably not much point 06:15:14 perhaps we can do a review later at some point 06:15:47 #topic open discussion 06:15:57 any other topics for discussion? 06:16:43 otherwise we will close the meeting in a couple of minutes (if I don't forget like last week;o) 06:21:47 next meeting in a week https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2010-06-03 06:22:03 if you have some topic you would like to discuss please add it to the page 06:22:14 thanks for the meeting everyone! 13:34:39 nirik: Is it OK with you if I send the announcement for FESCo election results together with Board? 13:34:50 nirik: Will be sending to announce, devel-announce, and advisory-board 14:57:31 stickster: sure! (if you haven't already done so) 14:57:42 nirik: Heh, already did it :-) 14:58:09 nirik: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/announce/2010-May/002819.html 16:00:01 #meetingname irc-support-sig 16:00:01 The meeting name has been set to 'irc-support-sig' 16:00:01 #topic init process 16:00:03 nirik: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. 16:00:07 hum. 16:00:14 #endmeeting 16:00:56 Hmmm 16:00:58 #endmeeting