17:00:00 #startmeeting IRC Support SIG (2011-03-17) 17:00:00 Meeting started Thu Mar 17 17:00:00 2011 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00:00 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:00:00 #meetingname irc-support-sig 17:00:00 #topic init process 17:00:00 The meeting name has been set to 'irc-support-sig' 17:01:02 who all is around for meeting today? 17:01:26 * thomasj is here 17:01:49 .fas FranciscoD 17:01:49 FranciscoD: ankursinha 'Ankur Sinha' 17:01:59 * nirik waves at FranciscoD and thomasj 17:02:06 o/ :D 17:02:20 o/ 17:02:33 500 often means your paste was too large. You tried uploading dcr226 17:02:55 ok, lets go ahead and dive in. 17:02:59 #topic Week in review 17:02:59 http://fedora.theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html 17:03:17 anything to point out from this last week? 17:03:19 Man.. 6 lines short for #25 :( 17:03:50 Just kidding ;) 17:04:11 Evidently I need to do more work 17:04:29 more work for fedora? ;) 17:05:07 sure, put in a good word for me ;-) 17:06:16 ok, nothing else will move on to tickets 17:06:27 #topic Tickets 17:06:27 https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/report/1 17:07:04 one at a time: 17:07:06 #33 17:07:06 Please increase supybot.abuse.flood.command from 3 back to its default value of 12 17:07:12 -1 17:07:45 yeaha, the more thing seems like a bug... 17:07:51 Well, -1 if it means more than 3 commands in #fedora as well. If it's just in pm i don't care. 17:07:52 I guess we could raise it a bit more... 17:07:55 5? 17:08:01 I don't see any scenario where it helps fedbot's primary purpose 17:08:10 -1 17:08:32 and its also the first time I've ever heard of someone suggesting it 17:08:50 * FranciscoD never noticed anything 17:09:06 ok, sounds like most folks are just wanting to leave it. 17:09:40 How about a feature in a chat client that automatically posts large pastes over to fpaste and displays the link. A plugin script for pidgin, perhaps. 17:10:07 SDGathman: that would be cool... feel free to work on such a thing. ;) 17:10:13 * FranciscoD has an alias to send to fpaste for irssi 17:10:14 konversation asks if one want to paste it or rather use a pastebin 17:10:21 #agreed will leave the flood.command at 3 for now. 17:10:28 anything more on flood command ticket? 17:10:55 not here 17:11:09 ok, next ticket: 17:11:17 ticket #37 my feedback about the irc channel 17:11:23 looks +ve :) 17:11:45 dcr226, you again.. 17:11:48 ;p 17:11:59 kudos to dcr226, Khaytsus 17:12:03 * dcr226 thumps his chest twice and displays a peace sign 17:12:23 and on to: 17:12:29 ticket #34 - Kudos/Compliments 17:12:55 kudos to nirik and mutk 17:13:08 kudos to fenrus02 mutk and nirk (whoever that is) 17:13:14 haha 17:13:22 Oh yeah, forgot fenrus02 17:14:03 and finally (even though it's closed) I'd like to touch on: 17:14:06 https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/36 17:14:24 ticket #36 - A complaint about conduct 17:14:35 I think there's good things for us to learn from this ticket. 17:15:21 a) avoid disparaging comments about other software/products... 17:15:35 * Discordian is here 17:15:39 note that I failed this one the other day... made a comment about rar. 17:16:02 b) be more verbose when saying why some advise is bad. 17:16:18 The person giving it may not know... and if we teach them, they can pass the good advice on to others. 17:16:40 c) try and get back to the orig question, and avoid answering statements or unreleated stuff. 17:17:05 * thomasj apologizes for the broken english and confused writing in his comment 17:17:29 d) try and avoid having multiple people tell someone about bad advise or the like... if you get multiple people it seems to some like ganging up on them... 17:17:41 thomasj: no problem. I think your comment was fine. 17:17:53 Can anyone think of other things from there? Or things to note? 17:18:24 I think you nailed it with your a -d 17:18:35 I think its embarrassing how w can't be more objective over free software, instead of flaming the crap out of anything that doesn't appear in fedora's repos, or in its configuration 17:18:39 s/w/we 17:19:01 yeah, it doesn't seem so to us, since we talk in busy channels, but having 3+ people all tell you something at once can be a bit much for some people. 17:19:11 dcr226: +1 17:19:16 there will be eggy faces (dunno if thats a saying worldwide) with the default configuration of sudo in fedora 15 as a decent example 17:19:42 I had noticed that detail 17:19:46 Also again, we should also be more relaxed on offtopic when there's no other questions pending. 17:19:53 aye 17:19:57 totally nirik 17:20:17 anyhow, I think this kind of feedback is a great chance for us to learn to do better. 17:20:18 we really need to be more relaxed 17:20:31 * dcr226 gives FranciscoD a shot of something relaxing 17:21:01 XD 17:21:13 so, anything further on tickets? anyone want to close them out this week? 17:21:14 The distros that do first user in wheel normally don't set root passwords 17:21:36 * thomasj want to close the tickets 17:21:41 close the tickets 17:21:46 thomasj: thanks! 17:21:51 thanks as well 17:22:04 #topic Open Floor 17:22:10 Anyone have anything for open floor? 17:22:50 not here 17:22:58 nom nom 17:23:29 Quiet seems to work well, fwiw 17:23:38 yeah... 17:24:00 ok, if nothing else will close out in a minute here... 17:24:08 close++ 17:24:37 Thanks for coming everyone! 17:24:40 #endmeeting