17:02:43 <EvilBob> #startmeeting
17:02:43 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Apr  7 17:02:43 2011 UTC.  The chair is EvilBob. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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17:02:43 <EvilBob> #meetingname irc-support-sig
17:02:43 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'irc-support-sig'
17:02:44 <EvilBob> #meetingtopic IRC Support SIG Meeting
17:02:49 * Southern_Gentlem 
17:02:50 * N3LRX 
17:03:03 <EvilBob> I have three agenda items for today's meeting. If you have something additional feel free to bring it up in the "open floor" section of the meeting.
17:03:06 * dcr226 
17:03:07 * Sonar_Gal 
17:03:35 <EvilBob> I'll give a couple minutes for others to show up
17:05:03 <EvilBob> #topic Week in review
17:05:03 <EvilBob> #link http://fedora.theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html
17:05:55 <EvilBob> Pretty normal week in #fedora, 7 kicks
17:06:31 <EvilBob> Not sure the cases of most of them, I assume flooding
17:06:43 <EvilBob> Anyone have anything on the week?
17:07:40 <EvilBob> We had a bit of fun on Friday in -social
17:07:50 <Southern_Gentlem> nope seems the word is out on where to get ff4 now so that has quieted down
17:07:52 <EvilBob> let the bot cut up a little
17:08:11 <EvilBob> Southern_Gentlem: +1
17:08:21 <EvilBob> Going once
17:08:29 <EvilBob> Going twice...
17:08:34 <EvilBob> #topic feedback tickets
17:08:34 <EvilBob> #link https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/report/1
17:08:44 <EvilBob> We have no open tickets
17:08:47 * Southern_Gentlem motion for the first of the month be bot cutup day in -social
17:09:04 <dcr226> Southern_Gentlem+1
17:09:10 <Sonar_Gal> Southern_Gentlem, +1
17:09:11 <EvilBob> One ticket that was closed by the user, I think they just wanted a place to vent
17:09:13 <dcr226> (obviously)
17:09:28 <EvilBob> Southern_Gentlem: I'm cool with that also
17:09:45 * dcr226 's (obviously) was referring to bot-fun day
17:09:48 <EvilBob> as long as it is not annoying everyone at least
17:10:11 <Southern_Gentlem> i think it actually help the moral of people alot
17:10:19 <dcr226> yeah, its good fun
17:10:23 <EvilBob> Anyone disagree?
17:10:40 <dcr226> EvilBob, I'd say any bots in -social should obey the ops so far as /part is concerned
17:10:58 <EvilBob> We have four +1 including Southern_Gentlem who made the motion
17:11:07 <dcr226> so at least they can be kicked out if annoying
17:11:30 <EvilBob> #agreed Bot fun day on the 1st of every month
17:11:50 * Sonar_Gal passes around the platter to bacon
17:12:00 <EvilBob> dcr226: can you handle setting this up on fedbot so it starts and stops automatically?
17:12:38 <dcr226> not really, but I've got a few ideas
17:12:58 <EvilBob> #action dcr226 will look in to automating fedbot to start and stop the fun
17:13:19 <EvilBob> anything else on the tickets or bot fun-day?
17:13:41 <EvilBob> Going once
17:13:42 <dcr226> is it just fedbot?
17:13:50 <dcr226> or can I send other bots in?
17:14:08 <EvilBob> dcr226: I think that is the best idea unless we have a dedicated bot only for this
17:14:22 <dcr226> I think it would be easier to do the latter
17:14:38 <dcr226> I think zodbot may have gotten twisted up last time
17:14:48 <EvilBob> It's your ball IMO, we can talk more about it out of band
17:15:01 <dcr226> and if fedbot goes broken, nirik may not be too happy about fixing it
17:15:06 <dcr226> yeah, no worries
17:15:08 <Sonar_Gal> right
17:15:10 <EvilBob> I agree
17:15:17 <EvilBob> anything else?
17:15:33 <EvilBob> #topic overthrowing nirik as unofficial leader ;)
17:15:33 <EvilBob> Not really a coup d'état but with Kevin's new job I think we need to look at and discuss reducing our expectations of him and his time.
17:16:04 <EvilBob> What are some ways that we lean pretty hard on him now?
17:16:09 <EvilBob> Meeting lead is one
17:16:10 <Sonar_Gal> EvilBob, I agree and we may need to look into another op or so to handle the times he was on
17:16:42 <EvilBob> General inter-op peace keeper is another
17:16:53 <EvilBob> for that I think he will be very hard to replace
17:16:58 <Sonar_Gal> I agree
17:17:11 <EvilBob> it is maybe an area we can still turn to him for help
17:17:27 <dcr226> do we know how his time schedule now? is it going to be a problem?
17:17:28 <EvilBob> I have no problem running the meetings for now
17:17:43 <Sonar_Gal> +1 there
17:18:10 <Sonar_Gal> nirik, is Mt time so an hour later than EvilBob
17:18:15 <EvilBob> I have few distractions at this time, might need someone else to pick up the gavel while I recover from surgery
17:18:28 <EvilBob> Sonar_Gal: earlier
17:18:39 <EvilBob> Sonar_Gal: 11AM for him
17:18:48 <Sonar_Gal> EvilBob, He is MT time
17:18:52 <EvilBob> Yeah
17:19:06 <Sonar_Gal> I ment earlier than you
17:19:08 * dcr226 is missing something......
17:19:13 <Southern_Gentlem> EvilBob,  we will handle that situation when we get there, i have aran meeting before
17:19:16 <EvilBob> dcr226: Not the first time
17:19:16 <dcr226> is nirik going to struggle with running the meetings?
17:19:20 <dcr226> lol
17:19:31 <Sonar_Gal> Nirik was normally up till 2-3 am my time which most others are not
17:19:40 <Southern_Gentlem> dcr226,  with his new job we shouldnt expect him to
17:19:50 <EvilBob> dcr226: it's just another thing that MAY get in the way of his new day job
17:19:54 <dcr226> gotya
17:19:59 <dcr226> +1 bob-meeting
17:20:33 <EvilBob> I like a non-op in #Fedora handling tickets from that channel
17:21:00 <EvilBob> I am able to do this and Sonar_Gal if you don't mind I would appreciate you helping in that way
17:21:01 <Sonar_Gal> EvilBob, I can help there where needed
17:21:30 <EvilBob> I think a non-op in that channel can be more objective
17:21:37 <Sonar_Gal> I agree
17:22:02 <EvilBob> anyone else have ideas for tickets?
17:22:05 <Sonar_Gal> EvilBob, the 2 of us should be able to handle that
17:22:20 <dcr226> nah, they work out just fine. Logs are a PITA though
17:22:34 <Sonar_Gal> if needed we can always ask a non-op for there opinion
17:22:36 <dcr226> or lack-of
17:22:45 <ranjibd> is there any way i can help? im relatively new to the forum
17:22:54 <EvilBob> #action EvilBob and Sonar_Gal will try to handle tickets for #fedora
17:22:58 <Sonar_Gal> dcr226, we have the logs if needed on the server here
17:22:58 <dcr226> ranjibd, stick around till open-floor :-)
17:23:04 <Southern_Gentlem> #agreed 1st of every month is Bot Cutup day
17:23:19 <dcr226> Sonar_Gal, right
17:23:45 <EvilBob> anything else for the topic of nirik's demise?
17:23:49 <EvilBob> ;)
17:23:58 <Sonar_Gal> :)
17:24:01 <dcr226> s/demise/assimilation
17:24:14 <dcr226> :-)
17:24:27 <EvilBob> OK if we think of anything else we can discuss it in the channel or on the list
17:24:45 <Sonar_Gal> +1
17:24:50 <Southern_Gentlem> other than congrads to nirik and i dont think they could have gotten a better person in the job
17:24:50 <EvilBob> #topic Open Floor
17:25:04 <dcr226> ranjibd, in what way would you like to help?
17:25:06 <EvilBob> ranjibd: you asked a question
17:25:28 <EvilBob> ranjibd: the biggest thing is being in #fedora and helping users to start out with
17:26:26 <ranjibd> im a sys ad at thoughtworks, good with chef/puppet, can script, i can also help in managing community, if u need
17:27:14 <EvilBob> If you have "acceptable" answers, provide them. If you are not sure let someone else take them. Be open to criticism if your advice is not what we normally consider acceptable.
17:28:00 <EvilBob> A big thing is to watch the answers that others give
17:28:24 <EvilBob> if they have the experience in the channel, they probably have the "right answer"
17:29:02 <EvilBob> try not to tag team help if someone else is already 1-10hours in to solving the users "problem"
17:29:26 <Southern_Gentlem> try not to spoonfeed either
17:29:32 <EvilBob> Southern_Gentlem: +1
17:29:46 <dcr226> oh, and /j #fedora ;-)
17:29:54 <EvilBob> ranjibd: we are big on learning rather than doing it for someone
17:30:21 <EvilBob> the Fedora infrastructure group is always looking for help also
17:30:48 <EvilBob> that might be another area that your skills will fit in well
17:31:03 <EvilBob> ranjibd: did we answer your question?
17:31:49 <EvilBob> anything else for open floor?
17:31:56 <ranjibd> yeah
17:32:01 <EvilBob> Oh, kanarip had a question
17:32:10 <kanarip> huh?
17:32:12 <kanarip> what?
17:32:27 <EvilBob> kanarip: You had a request about something for -social
17:32:34 <Southern_Gentlem> you tweet from earlier
17:32:34 <dcr226> scheduler
17:32:50 <kanarip> yes, could you insert a 30-second spam message from zod/fed bot on voting for peter robinson?
17:32:52 <kanarip> ;-)
17:33:11 <EvilBob> How about every 3 hours?
17:33:17 <EvilBob> or 6
17:33:20 <kanarip> fine with me!
17:33:24 <kanarip> 3 is better
17:33:41 <EvilBob> anyone disagree?
17:33:46 <kanarip> no!
17:33:49 <Sonar_Gal> nope
17:33:50 * kanarip looks around the room
17:33:54 <kanarip> *grrrr*
17:34:00 <dcr226> nope
17:34:32 <EvilBob> I'm OK with it, it is a short time thing, however, if asked we should do the same for others
17:34:53 <dcr226> EvilBob, I'm running for Prime Minister. I'd appreciate........
17:34:58 <Sonar_Gal> I agree
17:35:04 <kanarip> agreed
17:35:08 <Sonar_Gal> dcr226, run that in -uk
17:35:12 <EvilBob> can we get another sig member vote?
17:35:19 <dcr226> +1
17:35:26 <dcr226> Sonar_Gal, lol, nowhere near enough votes
17:35:33 <Sonar_Gal> +1
17:35:37 <kanarip> am i not a sig member?
17:35:39 <kanarip> +1
17:35:42 <Sonar_Gal> someone +1
17:35:46 <vwbusguy> sorry I stumbled in late
17:35:49 <EvilBob> Southern_Gentlem: How about you? is it cool?
17:35:52 <Sonar_Gal> kanarip, your a fedora op?
17:35:52 <vwbusguy> what are we voting on?
17:35:53 <kanarip> vwbusguy, +1 please ;-)
17:35:58 <kanarip> Sonar_Gal, yes
17:36:09 <Sonar_Gal> then you are a sig member
17:36:12 <kanarip> vwbusguy, you don't care i'm telling you to +1 it ;-)))
17:36:18 <EvilBob> vwbusguy: item on the table is for running an automated message in -social
17:36:32 <vwbusguy> ...for?
17:36:49 <kanarip> vwbusguy, calling people to vote for RHCP of the Year award being awarded to the Fedora Guy Peter Robinson
17:36:55 <EvilBob> Peter Robinson is nominated for... RHCP of the year
17:37:04 <vwbusguy> Sure, I'm cool with that, +1
17:37:10 <kanarip> weeeee
17:37:11 <EvilBob> he is the only candidate that is an active Fedora contributor
17:37:13 <kanarip> <o/ <o/ <o/
17:37:16 <kanarip> \o> \o> \o>
17:37:34 <Southern_Gentlem> +1
17:37:43 <EvilBob> #agreed We will run an automated message asking for people to vote for RHCP
17:37:56 <kanarip> awesome!
17:37:57 <dcr226> I'lll stick the spammer on if you want, I'll need the message though
17:38:09 <kanarip> not sure what we can do more to make sure the Fedora Contributor wins! ;-)
17:38:13 <Sonar_Gal> dcr226, sort it out in -ops
17:38:37 <EvilBob> at this time for Peter Robinson, if anyone asks for another candidate we will add one for them also or perhaps a generic "get out the Vote" message
17:38:59 <EvilBob> Anything else for open floor?
17:39:17 <EvilBob> If not I'll wrap this in 5min
17:39:56 <Sonar_Gal> Bacon for the win in -social!!!
17:40:08 <vwbusguy> mmmmm, bacon
17:43:18 <nirik> FWIW, I'm not sure how much my time commitment will change, but I'm happy to keep helping out where I have been...
17:44:43 <kanarip> thanks EvilBob!
17:45:11 <EvilBob> #endmeeting