17:00:01 #startmeeting IRC Support SIG (2011-09-29) 17:00:01 Meeting started Thu Sep 29 17:00:01 2011 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00:01 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:00:02 #meetingname irc-support-sig 17:00:02 #topic init process 17:00:02 The meeting name has been set to 'irc-support-sig' 17:00:48 I am here if anyone has any questions on the ticket I filed 17:02:15 mether: we will get to it in the tickets section. ;) 17:03:18 if anyone is here to meet that is. 17:03:27 * LoKoMurdoK here 17:03:43 * fenrus02 peeks in to a nearly empty room 17:03:59 * zcat viewed about 15 minutes of #fedora last week. can't say much. 17:05:04 ok, lets get started. 17:05:04 Bacon 17:05:06 'cept i see that f16 beta rc4 is almost ready 17:05:34 #topic Week in review 17:05:35 http://fedora.theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html 17:05:50 cool. I am down on the list today 17:06:20 * dcr226 passes out bacon 17:06:30 odd. was the stats page broke? seems like mighty small numbers 17:06:31 anyone have anything they would like to note from this last week? 17:06:33 We've had some real assholes on at night(US Time) 17:06:45 EvilBob: yeah, saw something about that. ;( 17:07:13 about 3 of the last 5 nights 17:08:25 So if any ops are alive between 1 and 5AM US Central time... 17:08:28 EvilBob: Who's around at 3-4am? 17:08:30 anvil was often around then in the past... but I guess not recently. 17:08:35 I am usually 17:08:44 * N3LRX pokes his nose in 17:08:53 sorry I'm late 17:09:09 well, we should try and make sure we have coverage to handle then... 17:09:18 EvilBob: Do you not have "bot ops" where you can quiet from the bot? 17:09:18 especially if they are making it a nightly issue. ;( 17:09:58 or maybe not...I caught the end of something this morning, but it was about 8am my time 17:10:04 well, maybe 9 17:10:22 dcr226: Yeah that was about 2 hours after it started 17:10:33 #info will try and make sure ops are around tonight and see if we can cover the gap 17:10:38 anything else we can do? 17:10:46 nope 17:11:09 EvilBob, if your active in the channel at that time, why not have botops on it? 17:11:25 what level of pestilence are they? minor irritant, or major outright disturbance in the force? 17:11:32 I mean, you've been more active lately than any other time that I've been involved in the project 17:11:45 I'm not an op in that channel 17:12:24 fenrus02: some of both I think. 17:12:32 anyhow, should we move on? or ? 17:12:33 Don't think the bot knows who are ops in the actual channel, right? 17:12:42 Khaytsus, yeah it does 17:12:45 oh okay 17:13:04 but you can have +o on the bot (#fedora,op) and it will give the same effect 17:14:25 #topic Tickets 17:14:25 https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/report/1 17:14:44 https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/73 17:14:48 .title https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/73 17:14:49 nirik: #73 (just a user experience) - irc-support-sig - Trac 17:15:02 kudos to several folks in the channel. 17:15:13 Ya'ay nirik 17:15:19 " It is what gives me hope/energy to keep on trying when I meet serious obstacles in Fedora." 17:15:22 * fenrus02 hattips nirik 17:15:25 good to hear. 17:15:44 .title https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/74 17:15:45 nirik: #74 (ask.fedoraproject.org in the channel topic) - irc-support-sig - Trac 17:16:00 Add it to the topic +1 17:16:14 sure. I don't care much. No one reads the topic. ;) 17:16:24 +1 add it 17:16:39 +1 17:16:42 I like the idea, haven't looked at the website yet. 17:16:57 I intend to look and understand what the moderation level is, who is answering the questions, etc... 17:16:58 it needs more/better questions and answers. ;) 17:17:01 I don't understand it, but that is beyond the scope of the request and this meeting 17:17:02 but hopefully in time... 17:17:06 append away. too bad fpo doesnt have a shorter-link service 17:17:24 fenrus02: I'm sure someone can bang out a few thousands lines of Python to do it 17:17:34 * fenrus02 chortles 17:17:43 Khaytsus, don't set him off 17:17:46 :D 17:17:47 fenrus02, one is being setup for fedora qa I think 17:17:53 Khaytsus, yeah, that has worked out so well for t.co (hacked, hacked, and hacked again this week alone) 17:18:02 mether, awesome! 17:18:13 there's also one being worked on as part of insight. 17:18:21 dunno the status there tho 17:18:51 Cool. Needs "keywords" like fp.o/ask 17:18:58 I have a side request related to ask. If you find something worth documenting, you can ask a question and answer it yourself 17:18:58 not fp.o/j4Dxk 17:19:15 Khaytsus, or we could use factoids on the channel 17:19:29 Khaytsus, like @fso nvidia 17:19:58 dcr226, need one for fglrx, nvidia, skhype, gnome3, and ${next}release 17:20:05 It's pointless, half the questions can't go there for legal reasons. and users can't be bothered to go read a link anyhow. 17:20:08 fenrus02, yeah, all of em 17:20:33 EvilBob, ask fedora doesn't have any real restrictions on what type of question to ask or answer 17:20:37 EvilBob, would you make truecrypt work and just do it for me? :) 17:20:56 mether: How did you get that one around Red Hat Legal 17:21:01 and for how long? 17:21:21 EvilBob, user generated content = Legal doesnt care 17:21:38 mether: they've always cared about the black hole 17:21:44 I mean, wiki 17:21:53 mether, even if $user has signed fpcla? 17:22:11 Never mind that the community has been providing this content for years 17:22:17 I asked and this was the answer I got. 17:22:32 I think it's like the channel... 17:22:51 odd. in that case, i've got to stomp a few wiki pages that are blatantly incorrect 17:22:54 (legal set them) 17:23:00 they treat it similar to questions in #fedora or users mailing list afaik 17:23:25 anyhow, I suppose this is beyond our scope? 17:23:32 #info add ask to topic. 17:23:33 nirik, indeed 17:23:34 The community has fedorasolved.org answering these questions that anyone can contribute to. 17:23:37 yep. offtopic 17:23:41 +1 move on 17:23:45 but again this is outside the scope of this meeting 17:23:45 #topic Open Floor 17:24:29 anyone have anything for open floor? 17:24:51 * dcr226 throws a bag of marbles out into the open floor, and turns the lights off 17:24:53 like that? 17:24:56 ;-) 17:25:21 * dcr226 guesses not 17:25:36 dcr226, you need to wax the floor to a high shine first 17:26:02 would someone like to close tickets this week? 17:26:10 and would someone like to mail the minutes to the list? ;) 17:27:01 I'll close 17:27:33 dcr226: thanks. 17:27:39 #endmeeting