17:00:00 <nirik> #startmeeting IRC Support SIG (2012-02-16) 17:00:00 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Feb 16 17:00:00 2012 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00:00 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:00:01 <nirik> #meetingname irc-support-sig 17:00:01 <nirik> #topic init process 17:00:01 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'irc-support-sig' 17:00:35 * N3LRX is here 17:01:07 * Sonar_Gal 17:01:17 * fenrus02 is a zombie .. n33z moar brainz 17:01:29 <nirik> huh. 17:01:31 * FranciscoD is here to watch 17:01:41 * nirik will wait until 5 after to start to let folks wander in. 17:03:04 * bodhizazen is semi-here =) 17:03:43 * dcr226 is Loading ████████████ 99% 17:04:04 <nirik> ha 17:04:54 <dcr226> looked better in gedit ;-) 17:05:03 <FranciscoD> showoff :P 17:05:05 <nirik> ok, lets go ahead and dive in... 17:05:07 <nirik> #topic Week in review 17:05:07 <nirik> http://fedora.theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html 17:05:18 <nirik> pretty typical week again... 17:05:26 <nirik> anyone have anything they would like to note or shout out about? 17:06:02 <fenrus02> i have a long list of things to shout about. none related to this meeting however 17:06:12 <nirik> indeed. 17:06:32 <dcr226> fenrus02, not enough lunch meetings this week? feeling grumpy? 17:06:35 * dcr226 hides 17:06:45 <fenrus02> dcr226, see -social for why 17:06:48 <Sonar_Gal> not enough bacon 17:06:49 <nirik> more martini's at lunch meetings needed? ;) 17:06:55 <nirik> anyhow... moving along then... 17:06:56 <fenrus02> Sonar_Gal, clearly that is the problem 17:06:59 <nirik> #topic Tickets 17:07:00 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/report/1 17:07:06 <nirik> we have one ticket this week... 17:07:13 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/100 17:07:25 <nirik> eol fedora questions and questions from non-fedora users 17:08:33 * nirik re-reads. 17:09:28 <nirik> I think really the only thing we can try and do here is be more polite... even to people who are offtopic/notusingfedora/eol 17:09:43 <Sonar_Gal> many people don't use fedora but if someone is asking if a specific package/program is in the repo's may mean more potential users in time. 17:10:33 <nirik> yep 17:10:44 <Sonar_Gal> can always send them to another channel or tell them where they can look to see what repo's there are 17:11:03 <nirik> yeah. I agree. 17:12:16 <nirik> so, any other specific ideas or recommendations we can come up with here? 17:12:50 <Sonar_Gal> Just be more polite and send them to where they need to be. Other channels or a link to the repo list 17:13:16 * Sonar_Guy 17:13:23 <nirik> yeah. I think fedora-eol is pretty much dead right? 17:13:38 <Sonar_Gal> I think so. 17:13:40 <nirik> perhaps we should nuke it, but then I don't know where to tell folks to try and get info. 17:13:52 <dcr226> google 17:14:10 <nirik> yeah. 17:14:13 <FranciscoD> + "please update to a current release, the bug may have been fixed already" 17:14:15 <Sonar_Gal> google or even fedora forum probably has old links and such 17:14:32 <nirik> FranciscoD: yeah, we always should suggest that. Some people resist for whatever reason. 17:14:38 <nirik> Or they want to, but haven't yet. 17:15:02 <Sonar_Gal> if it was a new packager he may not have gotten all the info from pervious packager 17:15:44 <Sonar_Gal> Not sure if anything is set up for that kind of problem 17:15:50 <nirik> #info suggest more politeness when pointing people to eol or other resources. 17:16:08 <Sonar_Gal> +1 17:16:18 <Sonar_Guy> +1 17:16:22 <FranciscoD> +1 17:16:30 <nirik> ok, would someone care to add info and close the ticket? (I can, since I was also planning on commenting, but never got to it) 17:16:39 <FranciscoD> politeness at all times really, whatever the case may be 17:17:17 <Sonar_Gal> nirik, ok you can or I can 17:17:36 <nirik> Sonar_Gal: go ahead. I can add my comment when I get a chance... 17:17:41 <Sonar_Gal> ok 17:17:46 <nirik> thanks 17:17:51 <nirik> #topic Processes 17:18:01 <nirik> So, we had a proposal v4 on voting stuff... 17:18:20 <nirik> I know EvilBob had some concerns still... but he's not able to make it today and hasn't sent them to the list yet. 17:18:38 <nirik> Did we want to wait another week ? or just enact this version and modify from there? 17:19:37 <Sonar_Guy> +1 to enact this version then modify as needed! 17:19:44 <nirik> I'm open to either I guess... but I just want us to get something moving/done. ;) 17:19:52 <Sonar_Gal> +1 enact then modify 17:19:54 <fenrus02> +1 accept and move on 17:20:58 <N3LRX> +1 for v4 17:21:10 <Sonar_Gal> There are going to be issues with anything we do but we can always modify at a later date 17:21:27 <nirik> yeah, I'm 100% sure we will come up with some changes needed... 17:21:33 <fenrus02> even if you solve world hunger, someone will still complain. 17:21:34 <nirik> but at least this way we have a framework in place 17:21:57 <nirik> any other votes/concerns? 17:23:31 * Sonar_Gal smacks dcr226 to get his attention 17:23:47 <dcr226> eh, whut? 17:23:50 <nirik> Southern_Gentlem ? dcr226 ? 17:23:58 <dcr226> nah, I don't mind 17:25:16 <nirik> ok, lets go ahead and enact that now and then adjust based on issues. 17:25:23 <nirik> would someone care to codify it into the wiki? 17:25:33 * nirik could, but might be a while before I get time to. 17:25:48 <dcr226> nah, I don't mind: Doing three things at once, do your thing...stop deliberating and do something 17:25:53 <dcr226> :-) 17:26:21 <nirik> #agreed will enact the v4 proposal, and adjust moving forward. 17:26:33 <nirik> #action nirik will codify on the wiki in a few days. 17:26:39 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 17:26:44 <nirik> anything for open floor? 17:27:24 <Sonar_Gal> Not that I can think of at this time 17:29:39 * nirik will close out in a minute then 17:31:03 <nirik> thanks for coming everyone! 17:31:06 <nirik> #endmeeting