17:00:00 #startmeeting IRC Support SIG (2012-04-05) 17:00:00 Meeting started Thu Apr 5 17:00:00 2012 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00:00 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:00:01 #meetingname irc-support-sig 17:00:01 #topic init process 17:00:01 The meeting name has been set to 'irc-support-sig' 17:00:17 * N3LRX 17:00:32 * Discordian is here 17:01:26 * nirik will wait a bit more for folks to wander in 17:01:40 * Sonar_Gal 17:01:56 I hope I'm not late 17:02:07 not at all. 17:02:13 glguy, nope right on time 17:02:15 * nirik is waiting a minute or two more for folks. 17:03:35 ok, I didn't have much today, so lets go ahead and dive in... 17:03:40 #topic Week in review 17:03:40 http://fedora.theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html 17:03:44 * Southern_Gentlem 17:04:00 anything anyone would like to point out from the previous week? 17:05:45 it seemed a reasonably typical week, but a bit busier than things have been 17:06:01 Spring break 17:06:36 yeah. 17:06:38 past 3 weeks and 2 more weeks are spring breaks for schools/colleges 17:07:00 There seemed to be lots more wanting spoon feeding than usual 17:07:39 possibly new folks installing since they have time at spring break... 17:07:53 Could be 17:08:04 ok, moving on then... 17:08:10 #topic Tickets 17:08:10 https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/report/1 17:08:16 we have one ticket, filed last night... 17:08:23 https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/103 17:08:59 I think this was a misunderstanding... 17:09:19 yep 17:10:25 not sure how we can handle this better... perhaps try and avoid coming into the end of things? 17:11:11 I say if someone is helping another stay out of it unless needed 17:11:31 yeah, we already often suffer from too many cooks. 17:11:41 Randomusr has been around for years 17:11:45 but it's hard to remember that, so we should remind people politely... 17:12:23 If I was going to pick an example of a hostile interaction I wouldn't have picked that one 17:12:39 one of the reasons I stopped helping was being pushed out by others. I use to help in there daily for years 17:12:48 glguy: indeed. 17:13:05 It doesn't look like a hostile interaction to me 17:13:08 it didn't seem particularly hostile to me. 17:13:30 Thing is some don't think or realize they are hostile that's just how they are 17:13:48 right. 17:14:06 so, proposal: thank submitter for feedback, try and get folks not to pile on when someone is already being helped? 17:14:17 +1 17:14:26 +1 17:14:40 That sounds reasonable. 17:15:36 ok, would anyone care to step up to close the ticket for us? 17:16:10 I got the ticket 17:16:32 Sonar_Gal: thank you. 17:16:37 #topic Open Floor 17:16:46 any other ideas/suggestions/thoughts/bacon? 17:17:19 * Sonar_Gal passes the platter of bacon around 17:17:25 * pingou picks one 17:17:49 a comment : this weekend will be busy 17:18:07 DiscordianUK: holiday weekend? yeah, could be 17:18:12 holidays here and elsewhere 17:18:39 * nirik nods. 17:18:51 5 day holiday here 17:19:08 I actually was going to say that #fedora seemed noticably more polite than when I first started spending time a few weeks ago 17:19:08 easter 17:19:31 a nontargetted bacon, I guess 17:19:44 glguy: oh? just of late? or ? 17:19:44 easter+queen's jubilee day 17:19:49 glguy it always goes in cycles and you have seen that as well 17:21:00 anyhow, if nothing else, will just close out in a few minutes. 17:21:16 glguy, That's also what these meetings are for. To try to make #fedora and -social as easy to be in and friendly as possible 17:21:24 nirik, Nothing that I know of 17:21:34 I believe f17 is about to ship beta 17:21:50 presumably we will do as usual with it 17:22:01 from what i am seeing its installing 17:22:05 and works 17:22:20 RC3 now isn't it 17:22:47 yes, the final go/no go is being discussed now in #fedora-meeting-1. ;) 17:23:18 so if it's go we'll support in main ? 17:23:19 yeah I have that meeting up also 17:23:25 DiscordianUK, yes 17:23:37 DiscordianUK: yep. and do our usual ban list wipeout I assume... 17:23:54 do we have to do the clean out 17:23:59 that would be the norm aye 17:24:02 Ah, interesting. I was noticing yesterday that the ban list was impressively short 17:24:10 same normal people will be banned with in 2 weeks again 17:24:16 you maintain that with a 6month wipe cycle? 17:24:21 always happens 17:24:29 glguy: yeah, for the last few years... 17:24:33 we wipe it at beta... 17:24:46 glguy, yes they get banned short times then after so many till Beta of next release 17:24:48 to give people a chance to have changed and be productive. 17:25:03 but of course some of the same ones end up on it again 17:25:13 but I think it's still worth doing. 17:25:30 absolutely 17:25:35 glguy, you have not come into #fedora-social yet? 17:25:47 I've initiated ban list wipes in otherlarge channels, but never had a fixed cycle to tie it to 17:26:01 I really believe in trying to work with people and trying ot keep a short list where possible 17:26:05 Those that only come back to cause trouble again are the ones that should remain on the list indefinitely. 17:26:10 as do we 17:26:12 Sonar_Gal: I should probably do that 17:26:13 glguy: absolutely. 17:26:49 glguy, That's just our fun chat channel 17:26:58 anyhow, thanks for coming everyone and keep on helping out! 17:27:03 :) 17:27:04 #endmeeting