17:00:01 #startmeeting IRC Support SIG (2012-04-12) 17:00:01 Meeting started Thu Apr 12 17:00:01 2012 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00:01 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:00:01 #meetingname irc-support-sig 17:00:01 The meeting name has been set to 'irc-support-sig' 17:00:01 #topic init process 17:00:12 hey folks. who's around for a irc support sig meeting. 17:00:13 * Sonar_Gal passes out the bacon 17:00:42 * FranciscoD is here 17:00:47 * Sonar_Gal 17:00:56 * EvilBob 17:01:20 * dcr226 away for a couple of minutes, then be back 17:01:26 * dcr226 just so you know 17:01:29 * pingou 17:01:30 move it 17:01:31 * dcr226 incase you were wondering 17:01:34 ;-) 17:01:36 knowing is half the battle. 17:01:53 ok, lets go ahead. 17:01:55 #topic Week in review 17:01:55 http://fedora.theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html 17:02:04 * FranciscoD puts on some back in black for dcr226 's entry ;) 17:02:11 anything from the last week anyone would like to note? 17:02:39 I haven't seen anything out of the ordinary 17:02:44 which is a good thing ;) 17:03:15 there's been more f17 questions... 17:03:24 and with beta out next tuesday we will get more. ;) 17:03:42 #info f17 beta out next week, expect more questions 17:03:52 * FranciscoD will have beta running over the weekend to prepare for the questions ;) 17:04:34 ok, if nothing else will move on... 17:04:41 #topic Tickets 17:04:41 https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/report/1 17:04:46 we have no tickets this week 17:04:58 #topic Request for ban removal in #fedora-social from DrManhattan 17:05:05 this was passed to me from a 3rd party. 17:05:27 I think we should ask them to file a ticket on this so folks not at the meeting can provide input. 17:05:55 +1 to the ticket 17:06:06 We have the ticket system for a reason, it should be used. +1 17:06:07 speaking for myself, also a ticket with apologies for past behavior and some promise to do better would be helpfull. 17:06:31 if anyone has a way to contact them and tell them that it would be appreciated. I don't have an email for them... 17:06:48 Neither do I 17:06:49 #info please file a ticket with info on the request. 17:07:01 #info if anyone sees them on-line please ask them to do so. 17:07:02 He is banned in so many channels not easy to tell him anything 17:07:06 right 17:07:41 #topic Open Floor 17:07:45 anything for open floor? 17:07:47 Revisit the meeting following a ticket being failed by at least 5 days? 17:08:10 EvilBob: not sure I follow, can you rephrase/ 17:08:32 nirik: it'll be good to remind everyone of the usual: be polite, patient, help out as much as you can without getting irritated 17:08:44 we've had some really busted systems come in 17:08:53 A ticket filed on Wednesday night before the meeting does not allow for enough discussion 17:09:06 i almost hit my face against a wall helping out this one person :) 17:09:19 * dcr226 hits $(user)'s face against the wall 17:09:20 EvilBob: right. should allow for a week unless there's some urgency 17:09:22 FranciscoD, try that 17:09:22 I would think allowing for a ticket to be open for at least 5 days would allow for enough discussion 17:09:33 FranciscoD: yeah... 17:09:39 dcr226: that's what I'm asking you to avoid ;) 17:09:45 I've also noticed a rise in X-Y problems... 17:09:54 * dcr226 hits FranciscoD's face against a wall, avoiding the avoidance 17:10:08 XD 17:10:22 wall cracked dcr226 :P 17:10:29 personally, I think we should just keep eyes open for the "feeding frenzy" effect 17:10:36 dcr226: also agreed. 17:10:50 not that I can think of any specifics to hand, just generally as ops, we should keep an eye out for it developing 17:10:51 feeding frenzy = spoon feeding? 17:10:53 if someone is being helped, try not to jump in and confuse them with multiple suggestions at the same time. 17:11:05 FranciscoD, no, its like what nirik describes 17:11:10 ah, I'm guilty of that one. Southern_Gentlem corrected me for it. 17:11:11 FranciscoD: no, too many cooks... telling a user too many things and they get confused. 17:11:11 FranciscoD: too many cooks 17:11:21 aye, got it 17:11:24 * dcr226 can't resist the irony 17:11:28 FranciscoD, too many cooks 17:11:40 ;-) 17:11:41 Southern_Gentlem calls it "gang banging" ... 17:11:51 Heh, yeah I saw thayt 17:11:55 heh. 17:12:01 ;) 17:12:14 >.< 17:12:42 * Southern_Gentlem 17:12:53 i can only call them as i see them 17:12:56 lol 17:13:58 by calling it gang banging it got the helpers attention 17:13:58 anyhow, will close out in a minute if nothing else. 17:14:26 Southern_Gentlem, true 17:14:31 wow Fast meeting 17:15:33 Sonar_Gal, this never usuallly happens to me ;-( 17:15:33 Southern_Gentlem: you'd have my attention even if you said "one person help" :P 17:15:36 ;-) 17:16:44 FranciscoD, i wasnt worried aobut you it was the other person as well 17:17:10 hehe, alright 17:17:17 * FranciscoD doesnt mind at all 17:17:26 as long as i dont get booted ;) 17:18:24 anyhow, thanks for coming everyone. 17:18:30 #endmeeting