18:00:12 <nirik> #startmeeting IRC Support SIG (2013-11-21)
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18:00:12 <nirik> #meetingname irc-support-sig
18:00:12 <nirik> #topic init process
18:00:12 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'irc-support-sig'
18:00:26 <nirik> who all is around for a irc support sig meeting?
18:01:08 <danofsatx> I'm here
18:01:27 <DiscordianUK> i am
18:01:36 <nirik> back in a sec...
18:01:56 * EvilBob 
18:03:07 <nirik> ok, lets dive on in then
18:03:07 <nirik> #topic Week in review
18:03:15 <nirik> anything exciting from the last few weeks?
18:03:40 <nirik> we have gotten more f20-beta folks... but I haven't really noticed any common problems they are having or anything.
18:03:49 <danofsatx> Well, I joined the group - does that count?
18:04:02 <nirik> danofsatx: :) welcome
18:04:11 <DiscordianUK> UEFI installs still seem to be a common issue
18:04:28 <EvilBob> A lot of concern about the fglrx/catalyst driver working
18:04:54 <danofsatx> IPv6 is an issue. I haven't nailed down specifics yet, though.
18:05:02 <nirik> DiscordianUK: yeah. Since I now have an efi machine I can help with those... probibly we should do a wiki page writeup or something.
18:05:23 <nirik> EvilBob: sadly so. My distaste for that package continues to grow. ;(
18:05:32 <DiscordianUK> It works for me on a multiple machines
18:05:39 <DiscordianUK> s/a/
18:05:56 * N3LRX is here
18:06:04 <danofsatx> DiscordianUK: I didn't have an issue with EFI on a clean install of F20. a Dual-boot install of F19 with W8, however, bricked the machine, which is why I got to do a clean F20 install.
18:06:34 <DiscordianUK> But people forget /boot/efi should be the EFI system partition and should not be reformatted
18:06:42 <nirik> EvilBob: it seems safer these days to just assume it doesn't work. ;)
18:06:50 * EvilBob nods
18:07:14 <nirik> DiscordianUK: yeah, a UEFI wiki page might be nice... to just list those differences.
18:07:36 <danofsatx> A lot of the reference documents make no distiction between /boot on BIOS systems and /boot/efi on UEFI systems.
18:07:37 <nirik> I can see about making something and get people to help fill it in.
18:08:13 <DiscordianUK> we populate entries in /boot/efi
18:08:17 <danofsatx> they just default to /boot which could be the source of a lot of confusion
18:08:31 <nirik> yeah, it's just something many aren't used to. ;)
18:08:50 <nirik> also, grub2-efi.cfg instead of grub2.cfg
18:08:57 <nirik> and efibootmgr
18:09:22 <DiscordianUK> i have had my struggles with efibootmgr
18:09:43 <nirik> #info efi issues/confusion seems on the rise, more docs welcome
18:10:18 <nirik> anything else for the last few weeks?
18:10:50 <nirik> I'll note next week in the US is a holiday, so no meeting then.
18:10:59 <nirik> #info next week is holiday in the US, no meeting
18:11:02 <DiscordianUK> okay
18:11:26 <nirik> we have no pending tickets...
18:11:29 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
18:11:41 <nirik> any open floor items? suggestions, ideas, comments, ?
18:12:04 <danofsatx> I need to create a test case for IPv6. Can anyone help with that?
18:12:24 <EvilBob> danofsatx: Not sure what that has to do with this group
18:12:33 <nirik> danofsatx: I could try time permitting... ipv6 works fine here tho.
18:12:51 <kc8hfi> the fedoraunity.org page seems to have trouble finding usernames if someboyd has forgotten their pwd and needs to get it reset
18:13:11 <EvilBob> kc8hfi: the DB is corrupt
18:13:16 <danofsatx> IPv6 in F20 is broken, and I'm not sure of the "correct" test procedures for the Fedora Project
18:13:38 <danofsatx> if there are any, that is
18:13:44 <EvilBob> danofsatx: Lets not drag this group's meeting down with that
18:13:47 <DiscordianUK> i suggest asking in #fedora-qa
18:14:19 <danofsatx> ok - I misunderstood what we were doing here.
18:14:21 <nirik> danofsatx: works here, but yeah, ask qa folks to help duplicate and then file bugs on it.
18:14:23 * danofsatx is sorry
18:14:29 <nirik> no worries.
18:14:32 <kc8hfi> EvilBob: ahh.  What do they plan on doing about it?
18:14:41 <EvilBob> kc8hfi: nothing
18:15:35 <EvilBob> kc8hfi: It's perfect, zope+plone is perfectly awesome! You don't question the awesomeness of it!
18:16:18 <nirik> riight.
18:16:50 <nirik> anyhow, thats something for them to determine... not us. ;)
18:16:57 <nirik> anything else for open floor?
18:17:08 <DiscordianUK> not me
18:17:13 <kc8hfi> I reckon i did a bad thing.  I questioned just how good zope+plone is!
18:17:51 <EvilBob> kc8hfi: It's OK daMaestro is not here to rip your head off and shit down your neck for it.
18:18:19 <EvilBob> kc8hfi: But now it will be in the log so he will hunt us both down...
18:18:35 <nirik> nice knowing you guys. ;)
18:18:46 * nirik will close out the meeting in a minute if nothing more comes up
18:18:46 <kc8hfi> yeah...that may not be a good thing....
18:20:03 <nirik> ok, thanks for coming everyone. Do keep helping in #fedora. ;)
18:20:06 <nirik> #endmeeting