18:00:22 <nirik> #startmeeting IRC Support SIG (2014-01-09)
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18:00:22 <nirik> #meetingname irc-support-sig
18:00:22 <nirik> #topic init process
18:00:22 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'irc-support-sig'
18:00:45 <nirik> any folks around for a irc support sig meeting?
18:01:14 * Khaytsus burps
18:01:21 <kc8hfi> i'm here, watchin
18:01:50 * nirik will wait a few min for folks.
18:03:39 <nirik> ok, I guess lets go ahead
18:03:52 <nirik> #topic Week(s) in review
18:04:18 <nirik> anything to bring up from over the holidays or recently?
18:04:24 <nirik> common bugs, issues, etc?
18:04:44 <nirik> it seemed overall pretty quiet.
18:04:56 <nirik> f20 went out pretty smoothly aside from a few hiccups right at release.
18:06:30 <nirik> #topic ticket #165: EvilBob excessive complaining about my away nick changer
18:06:32 <triad> hanging around; don't know what the topic means exactly
18:06:54 <nirik> this ties into the next topic as well somewhat
18:07:45 <nirik> triad: well, this group organizes support and management of #fedora... so the previous topic was to see if anyone had issues to bring up that they had seen a lot of recently.
18:08:57 <nirik> anyhow, I spoke my thoughts in this ticket already... I think we just close it at this point peding changes in the overall policy
18:09:03 <Khaytsus> The noise _from_ nick chnages has exceeded the actual nick changes recently.
18:09:14 <nirik> Khaytsus: yeah, thats the next topic.
18:09:22 <nirik> #topic revisit 'excessive' nick change policy
18:09:31 <Khaytsus> Some common sense needs to be employed when giving warnings
18:09:34 <nirik> so, our current policy is somewhat vuage and subjective.
18:09:55 <nirik> in particular some folks feel 'once' is 'excessive and anoying
18:10:17 <nirik> I think thats crazy. :)
18:10:33 <nirik> so, I guess we should draft a change and get folks to discuss/agree with it.
18:10:57 <Khaytsus> If it's happpening frequently, sure, put an end to it.  If it happens once or once a day.  It's noise, disruption, and just plane looks bad to yell at the user about it.
18:11:02 <nirik> we don't really have enough of us here today to change anything now, but I would like to soon.
18:11:11 <Khaytsus> plain.. ahem
18:11:25 <kc8hfi> plane, plain!
18:11:26 <nirik> I was thinking... 5 times in an hour
18:11:34 <nirik> the plane! the plane!
18:11:43 * Khaytsus walks on his knees
18:11:54 * Khaytsus coughs
18:12:18 <nirik> 5 times -> warn/tell them to stop, another time, kick/temp ban
18:12:59 <nirik> but I can file a ticket on it.
18:13:09 * kc8hfi doesn't see anything wrong with that
18:13:59 <Khaytsus> Everyone 20 minutes seems like it's condusive to auto away nick changes, which we'd ideally avoid.  But otherwise tracking frequency isn't easy I suppose.
18:15:04 <nirik> yeah.
18:16:45 <Khaytsus> I'd +1 5/hr over 1 ever, no question :)
18:17:05 <nirik> yeah,
18:17:31 <nirik> #action nirik to write up new plan for nick change policy
18:17:36 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
18:17:42 <nirik> any items for open floor?
18:19:44 <nirik> alright then... will close out in a minute if nothing else.
18:20:38 <Khaytsus> :)
18:24:26 <nirik> #endmeeting